Topic: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...

[Libertas]

Speaking of futile...

It's embarrassing but not surprising that Minnestupid Caucasoids went for the full-blown socialist idiot over the corrupt fugly hag waving the Clinton flag like it means anything anymore...(they must have not gotten Hitlery's message about having a vagina...or they no longer believe it or care)...but now the biggest effing fraud ever to ooze out of the so-called unaligned swamp has to stick his brain-dead mug in our faces!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-02/jesse-ventura-says-he-might-run-president-if-bernie-sanders-isnt-nominated

Will the outrageous uninvited insults never end?!

So Mr Empty Potatohead is all for the socialist dweeb without a clue...shut up!  Nobody cares!  Please, go back to your dark cave in the DrugLordOcracy of Mexico and die!

Nobody cares about any of the psychotic crap rattling around that commode on your shoulders you widow-suing no-talent do-nothing has-been never-will-be gutter-dwelling swamp lizard!

 

[rustybayonet]

Libertas you gotta watch it  --- -- that may turn the  on ....

[Weisshaupt]

Speaking of futile...

First, from everyone’s favorite prophesy, I present a man who needs no introduction, President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho!

Now pay attention here because this guy, in addition to being satirical (and a second amendment supporter), was a better president than we’ve had in a long time. His people were suffering and so the “nutcase” found a smart guy (with a peanut head) told him to solve it, and then got the hell out of the way. This president, unlike the losers we’ve been electing preferred solving problems to creating them! Seen DC solve a problem lately? Go ahead, name a real life political problem from the last 15 years or so and tell me that it’s been solved by DC. Heck, our current establishment says they’re awesome so surely they can name a few really resounding successes. I’m waiting. In the meantime I’ll read a press report that says “plants crave it” and DC will go back to freebasing debt.

read more at https://adaptivecurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2016/03/01/one-last-laugh-before-the-trumpening/

Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho 2016 !

[Libertas]

He's a little more scattered on this rant.  Trump, Ron Paul and Oprah?  These are not alike...unless taken from a narrow populist view.  Even then, not all populism is alike either, the reasons why matter more than the person...the person mattering only if they are insane.  Well, more debate material...

But Barry dumber than Hector?  Yeah, not even close.

[Libertas]

Speaking of stupid...

This is a hoot!

"Here's what I know: Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud," Romney said in his talk, set for delivery later Thursday.  Trump, in turn, disparaged Romney in a series of tweets: "I am not a Mitt Romney, who doesn't know how to win," ''Romney, who ran one of the worst races in presidential history, is working with the establishment to bury a big 'R' win!" and Romney is "not a good messenger" to be telling Republicans how to get elected.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/999a7f499006448a9068f19130050428/gop-sees-options-stopping-trump-not-good-ones

Pot-Kettle...something shiny...anything else on the boob tube?  No?

 

And more big jokes...

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/01/gop-debate-tickets-detroit-michigan/81165542/

Serfs?  Who needs that sh*t?  They're supposed to do as told, period!  That isn't how Proglodyte democracy works...proglodyte democracy is all about giving the illusion people matter when only the elite people really matter!

[Libertas]

Sure, this is ZH pulling from CNN...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-03/desperation-moves-romney-plots-block-trump-republican-convention

...but if true, and I hope it is...this is a sure-fire guarantee to end the E-GOP as a major political force for good.

Go for it!   

[Weisshaupt]

He's a little more scattered on this rant.  Trump, Ron Paul and Oprah?  These are not alike...unless taken from a narrow populist view.  Even then, not all populism is alike either, the reasons why matter more than the person...the person mattering only if they are insane.  Well, more debate material...

But Barry dumber than Hector?  Yeah, not even close.

Yeah the rant wasn't that awesome, the awesome bit was pointing out that even Satire - a deliberate  attempt to create an outrageously bad president  in 2006 - gives us a character who is a better  President than anyone we have had since Reagan. Because he was smart enough to know what he didn't know, find someone who did and then get out of the way.

By the way, I have decide this WILL be my write in Candidate on my Ballot

Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho 2016!

 

[Libertas]

He's a little more scattered on this rant.  Trump, Ron Paul and Oprah?  These are not alike...unless taken from a narrow populist view.  Even then, not all populism is alike either, the reasons why matter more than the person...the person mattering only if they are insane.  Well, more debate material...

But Barry dumber than Hector?  Yeah, not even close.

Yeah the rant wasn't that awesome, the awesome bit was pointing out that even Satire - a deliberate  attempt to create an outrageously bad president  in 2006 - gives us a character who is a better  President than anyone we have had since Reagan. Because he was smart enough to know what he didn't know, find someone who did and then get out of the way.

By the way, I have decide this WILL be my write in Candidate on my Ballot

Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho 2016!

Maybe one of us should change their name to that?

 

What the eff, eh?  Self-identify! 

 

[Libertas]

I don't think this article...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-foreign-idUSMTZSAPEC37O1O8W3

...is going to have the desired effect that the Progs at Reuters think it will have!

 

Illegals are pouring over the unprotected border swelling the illegal population by millions and the reports of lawlessness and Fedcoat inaction in the face of foreign invaders is a daily event, sooner or later the lack of action is going to make people think they have nothing left to lose and they'll start killing these people.

Reuters and the rest of ProgNation and their idiot pals overseas might see unregulated borders and foreigners freewheeling through their nations and a really swell idea, but here I still think the majority of people see the insanity of the risks involved in letting criminals, terrorists and unassimilating hoards as a net drain on our lives, fortunes and prosperity.

[Libertas]

Heard this clip on the drive in this morning...

http://iotwreport.com/excuse-me-bernie-snaps-at-hillary-during-debate/

..blind squirrel finds nut moment...

...but if anybody thinks either of these won't bleep us over in a heartbeat they are insane and/or a liar.

..but the masses are so bleeping stupid that either one could be President!

#IdiocracyShouldNotBeAnInstructionManual!!!

[Libertas]

Two points I think most people would agree with...

1)  Trump - Rubio should drop out so we can get on with the Trump vs Cruz showdown.

2)  Mr gNewt - Denying Trump the nomination if he has the delegates will lead to "civil war".

The first is a direct slap at the E-GOP's Plan B candidate since Plan A already pissed millions of Establishment dollars away in Epic Fail!^TM fashion...and I think both Trump and Cruz would be pleased if it was just down to them.  The second is true, but I think it equally true that the Establishment doesn't GAFF.  And I think the former feeds into the latter, I think Trump's dismissal of the Establishment's Plan B candidate is another way of saying "Dick with me, destroy the party...see if I care?" kind of dare...

And am trying to see a reason to care...and I am not having any success...

Neither the Progs or the illegals or the muzzies are ever going to be effectively dealt with until the E-GOP is thrown onto the ash heap...

I see no reason to delay the inevitable.

[Predator Don]

A Trump/ Cruz showdown is the establishments worse nightmare. I do think they will broker the convention. Only if the establishment would have fought Obama with this type of vigor......

[Libertas]

We've said it many times...we are a bigger enemy to them than the Dem's!

Well, they got that right...but I bet they didn't want us to know!

[ChrstnHsbndFthr]

There cannot be a "brokered convention" without a rule change and if they did that it would be a disaster for the party. I think they all know that. 

What may really happen is a contested convention. And only candidates who won eight states can compete in that. (They can no longer go outside the nominees, at least without a rule change, and they cannot even select Kasich or Rubio or even Cruz at this point, until he wins a couple more races. )

It is seriously down to either Trump or Cruz in the GOP or civil war. If the democracy portion of our republic is undermined, I think the fuse will be lit and there will be no stopping it. It only takes about 1/8th of the population to rise up to destabilize the union and it seems that I see MANY more than that.  Far better to let the voters have their way even if you think they are wrong. Surely the establishment (Both parties) sees that, right?

[Libertas]

Perhaps the Establishment no longer cares?  The DemonRats and their proportional allocation of delegates is where they want to drive the general election, they've said as much dozens perhaps hundreds of times over the years...they want to get rid of the Electoral College and let the corrupt system flourish unchecked and unaccountable...

The Establishment infested GOP, while not 100% contaminated like the DemonRats is still pretty rife with plenty of folks not willing to fight anything if the other team has the votes...so...

In the end, if this charade continues another decade...there will be nothing left to fight for in a polite sense...

And I think the E-GOP is under attack like never before...a Trump or Cruz only affair has to be driving them stark raving mad...and when you corner a rabid animal, the rabid animal will strike back...the only question is how?

I could see them rewrite the rules midstream, I could see them refuse to support their own party's nominee and throw their support behind the Bloody Bitch of Benghazi, I could see them support a third party candidate that basically ensures BBB wins...they would prefer anything to Trump or Cruz.

But everybody knows it is coming down to Trump or Cruz, so whatever the E-GOP does it is certain to destroy the GOP...we'll have to see if what they do kicks off anything larger than that.  The E-GOP's Plan B (from Florida) is crashing almost as fast as their Plan A (from Florida) went down and now some of his advisers are saying GTFO (before Florida!).

The E-GOP is going All-In! in Florida, so no way their guy bows out before that, but if that effort fails...both Rubio and the E-GOP are finished...unless they opt for screwing with the convention or ignoring their party's nominee.

And forget about Kasich, he isn't going to win much of anything.  But he'll get a speaking gig at the convention, which for reasons unknown to me are being held in Cleveland and look like they'll be the GOP's version of Chicago '68, and I think the importance of Ohio is overrated anyway...they are a warmer Minnesota is all...elect the odd Establishment Pubbie or a DemonRat...like Minnie at best they are a Purple state...

This Silly Season is shaping up to be one of the biggest epic fails one way or another...

And I think all the E-GOP chickens are coming home to roost!

Like Rhett said to Scarlett...

[ChrstnHsbndFthr]

I saw Tucker Carlson (Grrrrr!) make an outrageous statement, or at least outrageous in my opinion.that no matter the rules, if the person who won the most delegates entering the convention did not win the nomination then there would be a walk-out and it would be in effect illegitimate.

it is entirely possible as close as it looks like this might get, that no one has the required votes for a win on the first ballot. Then some delegates will HAVE to change their votes. If Cruz took Rubio as his VP and the combined delegates voted together, it seems to me that would be a totally legitimate win.  The team with the most delegates would win.  I know this is all hypothetical at this point, but how could anyone say that a win by the rules is not a legitimate win?

Would any of us feel that "Trump was ripped off!" if that scenario unfolded?

[Libertas]

You know what they say about assumptions...

So, having posted the disclaimer...

If in fact those three are in effect in a virtual three way tie, sure...two tag-teaming the other out...while somewhat uncouth and craven...would be within the rules but I don't think it is fair to say the person being tossed aside (whoever it may be) or their supporters have no cause to bitch.  But who is to say Cruz picks Rubio (I see that as doubtful)...what if it is Rubio picking Cruz (I see that as doubtful too)...or what if it is Trump choosing one of the other two?  I could see him taking Rubio, after all if certain pundits are correct and Trump is a closet Dem or no better than a stealth Establishment operative...Rubio makes more sense than Cruz, right?

More twists?  OK, how about if Trump is clearly ahead, but 100-200 delegates short of sewing it up...what if he gets a third tier candidate like Kasich who inexplicably is saying he is in it to the end and gets his delegates for the VP slot...how would that go over?

Also, we are talking about delegates...people...once in a convention and all this horse-trading goes on...how many are going to be able to stick with their choice if their candidate sells out to someone they cannot stomach?

Plus, just to be pest...how about all the other years where the poohbahs come forth and announced "it is time to get behind the leader and get on to the general election without any more internal bloodshed"...that is what stuck us with flawed candidates in the past...the old rally-around-the-establishment game...what happened to that?  Oh, yeah...it works only for certain types...

I think a train-wreck is almost a sure thing...the establishment will wreak havoc upon the GOP and nothing can stop it...

 

[ChrstnHsbndFthr]

You know what they say about assumptions...

So, having posted the disclaimer...

So stipulated.

If in fact those three are in effect in a virtual three way tie, sure...two tag-teaming the other out...while somewhat uncouth and craven...would be within the rules but I don't think it is fair to say the person being tossed aside (whoever it may be) or their supporters have no cause to bitch.  But who is to say Cruz picks Rubio (I see that as doubtful)...what if it is Rubio picking Cruz (I see that as doubtful too)...or what if it is Trump choosing one of the other two?  I could see him taking Rubio, after all if certain pundits are correct and Trump is a closet Dem or no better than a stealth Establishment operative...Rubio makes more sense than Cruz, right?

Absolutely could happen, But my point is that this would be within the rules and claiming it is unfair is foolish and stupid to boot.

More twists?  OK, how about if Trump is clearly ahead, but 100-200 delegates short of sewing it up...what if he gets a third tier candidate like Kasich who inexplicably is saying he is in it to the end and gets his delegates for the VP slot...how would that go over?

Just the way the game is played under the rules.

Also, we are talking about delegates...people...once in a convention and all this horse-trading goes on...how many are going to be able to stick with their choice if their candidate sells out to someone they cannot stomach?

This is why organization matters. Making sure it is really your supporters put into the delegate slots matters. Without that, it is truly an open game and a whole new election. It is the same reason we do not just vote party lines, but try to vote for US Representatives who think like we do. (Tough to find and tougher to hold them to it.) In the end what they truly believe in will matter most because they will be on their own and under party pressure.

Plus, just to be pest...how about all the other years where the poohbahs come forth and announced "it is time to get behind the leader and get on to the general election without any more internal bloodshed"...that is what stuck us with flawed candidates in the past...the old rally-around-the-establishment game...what happened to that?  Oh, yeah...it works only for certain types...

We always have flawed candidates. That is the nature of electing human beings. We are all flawed and make decisions that will not please everyone all the time. But, this is not an establishment situation, really. This is an anti-establishment conservative and a populist running. One knows the rules and how to use them, the other complains and threatens law suits and third parties and such. To me, the rules are the rules. We should all live by them or not play.

I think a train-wreck is almost a sure thing...the establishment will wreak havoc upon the GOP and nothing can stop it...

 

I suspect you are right there. Which will mean a Hillary administration. But, I do not have to like it. And I do not. It may even mean war and I do not like that either.

[John Florida]

  The establishment will bow down and kiss the ring of whoever gets nominated.  They will have to hope to God the they don't get primaries once Trump or Cruz get in the WH.  Remember who will control the money.  After some of the comments made and having Mittens come out to do their dirty work they have a lot to worry about if and when it all blows up in their collective faces.

[Libertas]

Plus, just to be pest...how about all the other years where the poohbahs come forth and announced "it is time to get behind the leader and get on to the general election without any more internal bloodshed"...that is what stuck us with flawed candidates in the past...the old rally-around-the-establishment game...what happened to that?  Oh, yeah...it works only for certain types...

We always have flawed candidates. That is the nature of electing human beings. We are all flawed and make decisions that will not please everyone all the time. But, this is not an establishment situation, really. This is an anti-establishment conservative and a populist running. One knows the rules and how to use them, the other complains and threatens law suits and third parties and such. To me, the rules are the rules. We should all live by them or not play.

I think a train-wreck is almost a sure thing...the establishment will wreak havoc upon the GOP and nothing can stop it...

 

I suspect you are right there. Which will mean a Hillary administration. But, I do not have to like it. And I do not. It may even mean war and I do not like that either.

I don't disagree with any of that with the following clarifications ...

Regarding the rules...I would postulate that by adhering to them is one of the reasons why conservatives have failed to win a single contest these past 32 years.  It is the same dynamic in Pubbies playing by the rules in the face of Democrat chicanery, lies and outright cheating.  I know the age old debate, we are better than they, shouldn't stoop to their level, two wrongs don't make a right...but Pubbies treat the conservatives the same way Democrats treat everybody else who isn't them.  I believe there are plenty of examples in the bible where sabotage, subterfuge and yes even lies were used by God's people to acquire the land God promised them and to keep it...and when they failed to live up to their end of the deal God used their enemies to punish them.  We are in the punishment phase right now...we are being punished by our enemies and by those who are nominally our allies.  I would argue we should be in a reconquest mode, drive the false idols and Pharisees from our midst and reclaim that which is ours...by whatever means necessary.

And to the last point, if war is what it takes, we should be steeling ourselves for it, not fear it and do nothing.  If it be God's Will, so be it.