Topic: Mexico retains law firm to sue US gun manufacturers

[Pandora]

Does this go in 2A?  Judiciary and courts?  World events?  We actually need a "does this boggle yer mind or whuuut?" category.

CBS News has learned that the Mexican Government has retained an American law firm to explore filing civil charges against U.S. gun manufacturers and distributors over the flood of guns crossing the border into Mexico.

On November 5, 2010 President Felipe Calderon expressed his frustration to CBS News correspondent Peter Greenberg: "We seized more than 90,000 weapons...I am talking like 50,000 assault weapons, AR-15 machine guns, more than 8,000 grenades and almost 10 million bullets. Amazing figures and according to all those cases, the ones we are able to track, most of these are American weapons."

According to sources, investigators will obtain makes and serial numbers of guns seized by Mexican authorities and trace them to their U.S. distributors and manufacturers.

H/T Mike C.

[Glock32]

CBS News has learned that the Mexican Government has retained an American law firm to explore filing civil charges against U.S. gun manufacturers and distributors over the flood of guns crossing the border into Mexico.

On November 5, 2010 President Felipe Calderon expressed his frustration to CBS News correspondent Peter Greenberg: "We seized more than 90,000 weapons...I am talking like 50,000 assault weapons, AR-15 machine guns, more than 8,000 grenades and almost 10 million bullets. Amazing figures and according to all those cases, the ones we are able to track, most of these are American weapons."

According to sources, investigators will obtain makes and serial numbers of guns seized by Mexican authorities and trace them to their U.S. distributors and manufacturers.

H/T Mike C.

The bolded portion is the important bit they try to gloss over. Of course the traceable ones are mostly American. Or are ex-military weapons from China and South America easily traceable? And most of those American weapons were sold to the Mexican government itself. Their own endemic corruption is what has diverted them to cartel hands.

Know one thing, this would never have even made it to the "trial balloon" stage of discussion if we had an administration that actually put American interests at the top of its priority list. This sort of thing, the interference in domestic American policies by foreign interests, is exactly one of the goals of the global socialist movement.

[John Florida]

I think they should be taking Napolitano and Holder to court over their gun issues. At least they would be going after gun traffickers.

[Pandora]

What gets me is it's Duh Wun and his administration throught the ATF that "let slip" a boatload of guns into Mexico and Calderone is going after our gun manufacturers??!

After Operation Gunrunner is made public and with Grassley holding hearings?

I don't know what the hell the law firm is thinking, besides $$$$, but this is UNsane.

[IronDioPriest]

My AR-15 hasn't flooded across the border. Its still in my locker right where I put it.

[Glock32]

Don't foreign governments require permission from the State Department to sue American entities in American courts?

[IronDioPriest]

There doesn't seem to me to be any question as to whether obama and holder would grant that permission.

[Glock32]

I know, but it would be a formal declaration of their position and deny them cover when they try to talk up how they're not hostile to gun owners.

I really hate these people.

[Alphabet Soup]

I would never suggest that the Øbozo regime is just allowing the messicans to do the job that their own party couldn't get done - bankrupt the gun manufacturers.

Nah, not me!

[charlesoakwood]

Hold the phone!  There was a topic the other day, "Mexico says Cartels is business" or to that affect.

They can't have it both ways.  Whipsaw time, Hillary and Barama's campaign people must be down there.

[BigAlSouth]

Lawsuits against gun manufacturers have generally failed. Checkit:

http://www.schmalleger.com/we2-17.html

[Pandora]

UPDATE: 4-22-11  INFORMATION AND RESPONSE FRROM US GUN INDUSTRY..MEXICO SIGNED CONTRACT WITH LAWFIRM BEFORE GUN RUNNER, BEFORE AGENT ZAPATA:

Buried in the CBS story is the stunning revelation that the Mexican government retained the firm of Reid Collins & Tsai six weeks before the murder of a U.S. border control agent, and two months before the “Project Gunrunner” controversy erupted.
The contract was signed on November 2, 2010 by a representative of Mexico's Attorney General, at their Washington embassy.—CBS NEWS
Absent from the CBS report is the fact that last July, President Obama nominated a partner in that New York-based law firm to a post on the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas.
Mexico signed a contract with Reid Collins & Tsai on Nov. 2, according to CBS News. Three days later,

Mexico President Filipe Calderon blasted this country with a statement:

We seized more than 90,000 weapons...I am talking like 50,000 assault weapons, AR-15 machine guns, more than 8,000 grenades and almost 10 million bullets. Amazing figures and according to all those cases, the ones we are able to track, most of these are American weapons."—Mexico President Filipe Caleron


Response from :

 neither gun shops nor gun shows sell machine guns or grenades, and in the wake of Gunrunner revelations, many suggest that Mexico has picked the wrong target. Instead of suing gun makers, any such lawsuit should be filed against the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which allegedly allowed thousands of guns to be “walked” across the border, over protests from gun shop owners and their own field agents.

Info courtesy of jpsfudimo.

[IronDioPriest]

UPDATE: 4-22-11  INFORMATION AND RESPONSE FRROM US GUN INDUSTRY..MEXICO SIGNED CONTRACT WITH LAWFIRM BEFORE GUN RUNNER, BEFORE AGENT ZAPATA...

The only hope this will ever see the light of day is a thoroughly conservative Republican government willing to take investigations to the wall. In the face of all the evidence in the world, the media will never hold the government accountable for any firearms that happen to cross the border, and will do everything in its power to shift blame onto manufacturers. CBS has reported on "Gunrunner", but when the rubber hits the road, they will support the lawsuit against manufacturers and pretend like Gunrunner never happened.

I shudder to think the judiciary is populated with Obama nominees. You know every damn one of them is a card-carrying Marxist.

[warpmine]

CBS News has learned that the Mexican Government has retained an American law firm to explore filing civil charges against U.S. gun manufacturers and distributors over the flood of guns crossing the border into Mexico.

On November 5, 2010 President Felipe Calderon expressed his frustration to CBS News correspondent Peter Greenberg: "We seized more than 90,000 weapons...I am talking like 50,000 assault weapons, AR-15 machine guns, more than 8,000 grenades and almost 10 million bullets. Amazing figures and according to all those cases, the ones we are able to track, most of these are American weapons."

According to sources, investigators will obtain makes and serial numbers of guns seized by Mexican authorities and trace them to their U.S. distributors and manufacturers.

H/T Mike C.

The bolded portion is the important bit they try to gloss over. Of course the traceable ones are mostly American. Or are ex-military weapons from China and South America easily traceable? And most of those American weapons were sold to the Mexican government itself. Their own endemic corruption is what has diverted them to cartel hands.

Know one thing, this would never have even made it to the "trial balloon" stage of discussion if we had an administration that actually put American interests at the top of its priority list. This sort of thing, the interference in domestic American policies by foreign interests, is exactly one of the goals of the global socialist movement.

Read your history regarding China in the nineteen century. You had major interference from the colonial powers. She couldn't stand up on her own to defend herself as a nation. She was carved up into colonies by the Europeans that all wanted a piece of the action. A great empire once upon a time, leading the way in technology politics, finance, roads, trade, China was reduced to sitting it out on the sidelines because of her corruption in every facet of government.

This is what we're experiencing her. With the unbelievably stupid populous that can't do basic math or understand basic civics, we may be doomed to be just another pebble on history's road.

[John Florida]

UPDATE: 4-22-11  INFORMATION AND RESPONSE FRROM US GUN INDUSTRY..MEXICO SIGNED CONTRACT WITH LAWFIRM BEFORE GUN RUNNER, BEFORE AGENT ZAPATA...

The only hope this will ever see the light of day is a thoroughly conservative Republican government willing to take investigations to the wall. In the face of all the evidence in the world, the media will never hold the government accountable for any firearms that happen to cross the border, and will do everything in its power to shift blame onto manufacturers. CBS has reported on "Gunrunner", but when the rubber hits the road, they will support the lawsuit against manufacturers and pretend like Gunrunner never happened.

I shudder to think the judiciary is populated with Obama nominees. You know every damn one of them is a card-carrying Marxist.

 Bet you the gunmakers will bring it out in court. How can they be guilty of selling guns to cartels when they don't retail anything.

[Libertas]

Should be fun throwing Gunrunner back into their faces and embarrass Duh Wun at the same time, which is why this will never see the light of day...

[Glock32]

CBS News has learned that the Mexican Government has retained an American law firm to explore filing civil charges against U.S. gun manufacturers and distributors over the flood of guns crossing the border into Mexico.

On November 5, 2010 President Felipe Calderon expressed his frustration to CBS News correspondent Peter Greenberg: "We seized more than 90,000 weapons...I am talking like 50,000 assault weapons, AR-15 machine guns, more than 8,000 grenades and almost 10 million bullets. Amazing figures and according to all those cases, the ones we are able to track, most of these are American weapons."

According to sources, investigators will obtain makes and serial numbers of guns seized by Mexican authorities and trace them to their U.S. distributors and manufacturers.

H/T Mike C.

The bolded portion is the important bit they try to gloss over. Of course the traceable ones are mostly American. Or are ex-military weapons from China and South America easily traceable? And most of those American weapons were sold to the Mexican government itself. Their own endemic corruption is what has diverted them to cartel hands.

Know one thing, this would never have even made it to the "trial balloon" stage of discussion if we had an administration that actually put American interests at the top of its priority list. This sort of thing, the interference in domestic American policies by foreign interests, is exactly one of the goals of the global socialist movement.

Read your history regarding China in the nineteen century. You had major interference from the colonial powers. She couldn't stand up on her own to defend herself as a nation. She was carved up into colonies by the Europeans that all wanted a piece of the action. A great empire once upon a time, leading the way in technology politics, finance, roads, trade, China was reduced to sitting it out on the sidelines because of her corruption in every facet of government.

This is what we're experiencing her. With the unbelievably stupid populous that can't do basic math or understand basic civics, we may be doomed to be just another pebble on history's road.

Yes, and China at the time was further handicapped by the fact that inordinate portions of its population were addicted to opium. Marx called religion the opiate of the masses, but he was of course wrong. It's the very suffocating welfare state created in his name that is the opiate of the masses. Dutifully voting Democrat in exchange for distribution of other people's money is fulfilling a role very similar to the opium happily given to the Chinese by the British.