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History ends for South Carolina
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:02:51 AM »
Nikki caves into Race-Bait,IncTM bullies...announces the removal of the Confederate Flag from the Capitol...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/06/republican-governor-nikki-haley-announces-removal-of-confederate-flag-from-south-carolina-capitol-grounds/

Thugs win again...

And newsflash for fools - this won't get them to shut up or back off one damn bit...you just surrendered to terror...your nightmare has only just begun...
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2015, 09:38:26 AM »
The word Obama just said on TV...
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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2015, 09:50:49 AM »
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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2015, 09:55:24 AM »
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"I hereby call for a ban upon & the elimination of all cotton, cotton material & cotton by-products within this here fine & upstanding culture...because it am racially offensive to those poor & tired souls who toiled endless hours in the fields in years gone by.

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The Confederate Flag
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2015, 09:57:56 AM »
As I read more and more of the predictable calls to remove the Confederate flag from the SC capitol grounds, and elsewhere, I find myself becoming more strident in wanting to defend its presence.  It has little to do with the Confederate flag itself, and more to do with opposing the incessant ratcheting incrementalism of the Left's culture war.

It will proceed to the point where flags and symbols of any white, Western country are likewise called symbols of racism, oppression, and totally inappropriate in the public sphere.  Look at the UK.  The flag of England (the St. George flag) is already being treated that way.  The US flag isn't escaping this either, as we've already seen with schools banning it because it "offends" Mexicans
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Re: The Confederate Flag
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2015, 11:16:04 AM »

We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: The Confederate Flag
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2015, 02:40:19 PM »
The irony of the confederate flag is that DEMOCRATS are the ones that put them in those statehouses,  not Republicans.

But they manage to put Republicans on the defensive about it. 

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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2015, 03:00:18 PM »
Wonder if it will get to the point of being banned like the Nazis swastika is in Germany. 

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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2015, 03:38:38 PM »
Housekeeping note:  I merged Libertas' and Glock's threads and moved to General.

I saw two instances of Confederate monuments and cemetery headstones defaced; Walmart and eBay and other retailers (some of whom will still sell Nazi-themed merchandise) announced they'll  no longer sell Confederate flags and there's this ...

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/06/23/matt-bevin-calls-for-removal-of-jefferson-davis-statue-from-kentucky-capitol-as-retailers-dump-confederate-flag-merch/

I'm with Glock:  this has to stop.  Once again, we see the Right's mad scrambling to the Left's agenda because of the racist bigmouth in the WH and his surrogates in the media, just to avoid having the racist ad hominem lain on it.  I would have thought the Pavlovian response to the threat would have waned by now, but these people are cowards.

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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2015, 03:44:39 PM »
And Libertas is correct as well; pieces of our history are being erased in front of our eyes.  But not slavery -- oh no, we're not going to be allowed to forget that for one minute.
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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2015, 03:48:52 PM »
IMHO, if it wasn't for the South this country would have long been destroyed as we know it. The Southern people and their culture is one I greatly respect and honor. They are some of the most Godly, Gracious, Kind, Moral-God Fearing........... people I have ever meant. The Southern Evangelicals IMHO is the only thing that is restraining the Lord from bringing severe judgement on this country. The Southern Evangelicals not only produce some of the finest Preachers, Christian Leaders and Christians this country has to offer. They also support and LOVE Israel and the Jews more than the Jews love themselves. Truly remarkable.

I don't see many Americans wanting to go to where I live here up North in Minnesocold not that I would not welcome my Southern Brothers and Sisters with open arms but why would you want to come here where leftism rules. I sure see many more Americans wanting to move South where families and businesses flourish.

As someone with ancestry that does not go back very far back into American History I admit I can see both sides of the issue and I am not much emotionally involved in the flag other than to say I agree with Glock that once the flag is banned whats next. I feel the left so hates the South that this is just the tip of the iceberg. I don't think the left really cares one way or the other about the flag but for the left this is just one part they can use (don't let a crisis go to waste) of achieving their evil goal in trying to destroying the South.
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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2015, 03:54:11 PM »
Now this, from HotAir comments ...

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And now a flag maker will stop making them. Yknow… For great unity…

http://www.businessinsider.com/valley-forge-flag-will-stop-making-confederate-flags-2015-6

This thing has all the smells of an orchestrated campaign… Another Twitter tantrum.

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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2015, 04:24:52 PM »
And Amazon and Wally-World has announced that they are pulling any confederate-themed merchandise from the shelves.

At the Freepers I fight the union side of the civil war. I never disparage the confederate soldier or the southern people - I limit my comments to historical anecdotes and war strategy. But because I'm "on the other side" I've gotten a lot of heat from neo-confederates who are up in arms over these recent events. They are in such a lather that they can't hear me agreeing with them.

This isn't going to turn out well for anyone.

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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2015, 04:31:09 PM »
Calling Pamela Geller:

Please arrange a few "Draw Muhammed on a Confederate Flag" events...

...that oughta' piss off all the right people.
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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2015, 04:47:15 PM »
And Amazon and Wally-World has announced that they are pulling any confederate-themed merchandise from the shelves.

At the Freepers I fight the union side of the civil war. I never disparage the confederate soldier or the southern people - I limit my comments to historical anecdotes and war strategy. But because I'm "on the other side" I've gotten a lot of heat from neo-confederates who are up in arms over these recent events. They are in such a lather that they can't hear me agreeing with them.

This isn't going to turn out well for anyone.

No, it's not going to end well for anyone.  What's next, will they pull reruns of the Dukes of Hazzard because the car is called the General Lee and has a Confederate battle flag on its roof?  Or will they just digitally remove it?

I understand why those people are in a lather, it's because the sh*t simply will not stop.  A new day, a new assault on who and what you are.  After a while people forget about engaging in debate about things, and they just go directly into a retaliatory mode.  When you hurl unending insult at someone after a while they just decide to turn the insult into a badge of honor.

It's merely the latest evidence that the USA is an artificial, non-viable construct.  320 million people, and sizable chunks of that 320 million totally resent being subject to the governance and cultural expectations of the rest.  The only way such an arrangement lasts for any length of time is for one of those cohorts to be the dominant one, like Russia was toward the other nations that made up the USSR.  In our case, it's the coastal Northeast that functions as the dominant cohort.  We'll see how long it can last.  Tick tock I say.
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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2015, 06:21:55 PM »
Glock32 - great avatar ;')

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A new day, a new assault on who and what you are.

It isn't just the assault - it's that so much of the assault (sell-out?) is coming from "our side". I wouldn't be surprised if this spells the end of Nikki Haley's career. I saw hundreds of people who vow to turn their backs on her - the way she's turned her back on them.

I don't think that any of them were ever gonna vote for Jeb  or Lindsay but there have been other pubbies who have said "time to retire it" and now are gonna get some nasty blowback. As well they should.

I say peace on the appeasers.

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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2015, 07:29:31 PM »
The government contracted out IT work to the ChiComs and are repaid by an unbelievable compromise; ISIS is killing everything in sight for the pure sadistic pleasure of it; the Feds are printing money like there is no tomorrow; the economy is shrinking and nobody seems to care; and a heartless lying bitch could be the next President of the United States and everybody is getting worked up over a damned 150 year old flag?

Focus, my peeps. Focus.
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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2015, 09:01:42 PM »
Are they going to ban this flag as well
http://www.50states.com/flag/msflag.htm#.VYn7NkbnEwU


Why can't the left be honest in that they hate the American flag as well...it's why they trample it burn and dishonor it every f**king chance they get. ::pullhair::
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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2015, 05:01:28 AM »
Are they going to ban this flag as well
http://www.50states.com/flag/msflag.htm#.VYn7NkbnEwU


Why can't the left be honest in that they hate the American flag as well...it's why they trample it burn and dishonor it every f**king chance they get. ::pullhair::

Funny you should ask . . .

Petition to change Mississippi flag: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/06/22/mississippi-flag-change-confederate/29124109/

Gov. says no way.
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Re: History ends for South Carolina
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2015, 04:50:05 PM »
Are they going to ban this flag as well
http://www.50states.com/flag/msflag.htm#.VYn7NkbnEwU


Why can't the left be honest in that they hate the American flag as well...it's why they trample it burn and dishonor it every f**king chance they get. ::pullhair::

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