If they were serious about getting funding for the wall, it would have been a bill on Trump's desk in the day after the inauguration. The fact that it wasn't just shows that the GOP is still acting as controlled opposition. No surprises there
Had a immigration debate with some flake friend of my nieces on Facebook. Runs some activist group for "rural workers"
It was the usual hack responses - refusal to engage on points and so forth - and the full on NPC regurgitation of talking point memos. but I was surprised by some of the content...
1) Asylum is now any claim that you fear for your life - for any reason- even poverty. . (Of course you point out that it needs to be because you are being targeted by a government or an organized political force for your religion, race, sex, and they deny it even after you present them with the language of that statute. Oh they are fleeing Honduras or Venezuela because they are politcal targets? But they are in Mexico now - so how do they have a valid asylum claim , given they are no longer in Venezuela or Honduras? Why not apply for asylum in the first safe country you arrive at. No answer - after asking it 4 times. )
2) Immigrants may cost the taxpayer 100 billion + a year, but you aren't adding in their contributions! Do you know how much your food and other products would cost if we didn't allow farmers and corporations the ability to exploit slave labor? The libtards are now actually arguing that these people should be exploited by corporations! And this coming form a woman who actually runs an activist organization to help these workers.
3) Overstayed Visas are a bigger problem than border crossings so a wall will not deal with the bigger problem.. .. because NPR ran some article that directly compares border apprehensions (400,000) and overstay visas (700,000) . Of course you try to point out that border apprehensions is not the same number as "attempted border corssongs" nor is it synonymous with deportations , or that people even show up for court ( not to mention court costs) nor do they track the number NOT apprehended and they pretend you switched into speaking in latin. And of course spending $5 billion to deal with "only" 1/3 of the problem is abad deal.. But 100s of billions on welfare, health care and so on? Great deal. We spend $5 Billion a year in medicaid just on anchor baby births. But spending that on a wall isn't "worth it"
4) A Fence isn't a wall. For some reason a lot of liberals feel a "fence" is okay but a "wall" is not.
5) Eminent domain might affect somone's home on the border. They will be bulldozing people's Homes! (really? this will affect what? 7 people? 10? And the alternative is having illegals marching through your property on a regular basis? You lhave property on an international border? Seems like you should expect some sh*t.. but tell you what.. we won't build it on your land - we will leave a gap there so any illegals that do come, come right by you. Better?)
I didn't realize these were real talking points till I saw Crowder's latest bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDjQxDydCo0&t=0sBut oh she was a fun one..
Denying compassion to the people is immoral (so she is sooo kind..) , but when asked how many additional rapes and murders she was willing to accept.. she was silent in her moral superiority.
I suggest that she is bringing strangers into a house we share.. and she says "be careful, as really this is the Native Amercian's house...." - trying to White guilt me. I said , "I don't think you understand that cautionary tale.. maybe if the Native Americans had not allowed unrestricted and unvetted immigration it would still be their house. " I was disappointed when her head didn't explode on the spot.
God I hate these f**kers. The first time they refuse to respond to a point I think - okay - you are now maliciously arguing in bad faith, I so wish I could smash your skull so a fact can get in.
I do kinda like the kid in Crowder's video that wants to use drones to track them.. Great idea.. if we use drones with night vision to intercept them as well and just shoot anyone who crosses dead - Totally an acceptable compromise for me to give up the wall. And I bet border crossings drop to near zero