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I love table-turning Hoplophobes!
Alphabet Soup:
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I will go very quiet. And then I will go very loud.
Do the math...
Weisshaupt:
--- Quote from: NHTom on April 25, 2018, 06:07:04 AM ---[
I don't want to be a downer on this. Hunger can be overpowering. ...
Do we have a "plan B?"
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They aren't going to be able to pull a holodomor type event here. Stalin had to get the guns first.. Do you think American farmers will allow their farms to be taken and collectivized if they are still armed?
Feeding a family form the land is relatively easy. Feeding a city is hard.
This is entirely a Country vs City Civil war. They can freeze bank accounts and do all manner of stupid to FORCE people into finding different networks and using different methods.. and that just means when the war starts they can only cause less pain, not more.
Any freedom loving person still living in a Liberal city is an idiot. Your Plan B is controlling your own water supply (well) , your own food supply (livestock/farming/aquaponics) , power supply ( generator/solar) and so forth. You should be doing this anyway because a financial collapse of the dollar is inevitable - no matter what.
I can't use your bank anymore? Fine. I will use bit coin. How do you plan to stop me? You will cut off my internet? Oh wait, its sort of designed so I can't be cut off, isn't it - even if I have to use Dial-up to a foreign modem.
And they sanction my employer? It will just ensure that most of us start working off the books in the bitcoin network. After all, employers aren't supposed to hire illegals either, but somehow they are employed. But you are right, you might have to give up some of your comfy suburban lifestyle to fight for freedom.
But if I am unemployed? What will stop me from going to a food bank or collecting welfare from the very system they want to deny me from?
If one can't work and are made a persona-non-grata.. one will have a lot of time to leave fake packages around town and engage in other acts of sabotage, won't one?
Bottom line, I will be dead in a shooting war LONG before I am dead of starvation.
Libertas:
You are overlooking one variable - thanks to punitive tax regulations and other governmental interference the family-owned farm is almost extinct, farming is largely a corporate affair...how willing to risk their whole operation by resisting government dictates? I have no idea how that may split.
Weisshaupt:
--- Quote from: Libertas on April 27, 2018, 08:30:31 AM ---You are overlooking one variable - thanks to punitive tax regulations and other governmental interference the family-owned farm is almost extinct, farming is largely a corporate affair...how willing to risk their whole operation by resisting government dictates? I have no idea how that may split.
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So far taxation isn't so bad where I am -- Agricultural land taxes are quite reasonable. I pay less than half on my 5 acre Farm than what I paid on my big Suburban house with a 6000 sq ft lot.
But yes, farming is largely corporate. Ever look into how many combine harversters there are in the US?
Farms and harvests are time critical . A little disruption in that market will go a long way to making sure the corporate farms fail to produce.
And of course such farms can be raided...
Point is, people in the rural areas are far less likely to starve in such an event than those in the city waiting on bridges for the government to come and save them
Libertas:
--- Quote from: Weisshaupt on April 27, 2018, 07:22:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Libertas on April 27, 2018, 08:30:31 AM ---You are overlooking one variable - thanks to punitive tax regulations and other governmental interference the family-owned farm is almost extinct, farming is largely a corporate affair...how willing to risk their whole operation by resisting government dictates? I have no idea how that may split.
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So far taxation isn't so bad where I am -- Agricultural land taxes are quite reasonable. I pay less than half on my 5 acre Farm than what I paid on my big Suburban house with a 6000 sq ft lot.
But yes, farming is largely corporate. Ever look into how many combine harversters there are in the US?
Farms and harvests are time critical . A little disruption in that market will go a long way to making sure the corporate farms fail to produce.
And of course such farms can be raided...
Point is, people in the rural areas are far less likely to starve in such an event than those in the city waiting on bridges for the government to come and save them
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Don't forget estate taxes...those have reduced acreage like nothing else. As for the rest like everything it will be a mixed bag.
State will have to guard large operations or patriots may raid them and raze them.
A modern civil war in this nation will be vicious...have no illusions about that. And the more repressive the State gets the more rebellion there will be.
ETA - Hasten the culling.
"Generation Anhedonia" - https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/04/23/generation-anhedonia/
This kinda crop will help break things too...
https://nypost.com/2018/04/25/judge-bars-are-allowed-to-throw-out-trump-supporters/
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2018/04/23/indiana-pizzeria-backed-rfra-and-declined-cater-same-sex-weddings-closes-good/542975002/
Continued compliance in the face of unrelenting lawlessness and oppression cannot last much longer...
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