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14 Dead Russian Sailors, Pence emergency recall to DC & Putin urgent defense meet - related or not?

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Related Events or Not?
« on: July 02, 2019, 12:22:35 PM »
https://news.usni.org/2019/07/02/14-sailors-die-on-secretive-russian-nuclear-submarine

https://nypost.com/2019/07/02/pences-plane-called-back-to-washington-over-unspecified-emergency/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9421808/vladimir-putin-defence-mike-pence-air-force-washington/

These are the known known's...the unknown known's are the thing...

And not that it alters anything materially...officials now saying he never left DC for NH... but still no word of why he didn't leave as scheduled.

Generally speaking...it's relatively quiet around the globe...which is my primary cause for unease...rather have stuff happening one way or another!

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Re: Related Events or Not?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2019, 01:46:49 PM »
I say yes, although "who knows?"  No reason diplomacy couldn't be conducted enroute, but maybe not.
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Re: Related Events or Not?
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2019, 06:54:04 AM »
Indeed, in the digital age face to face business is typically done only for ceremonial signing of agreements and multinational pow-wow's...and everything does not go through front door State/Foreign offices...so much back-channel stuff...

ETA - If not saying it's nuke-powered...chances are it may be nuclear.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-submersible-incident/russia-accused-of-cover-up-over-lethal-submarine-fire-idUSKCN1TY1D0

Seems an easy one to say it isn't if it isn't...and it seems others know it is and are leaving to the Russians.  I suspect if the reactor is undamaged and not leaking then they hope to salvage it and say no big deal...and so far we/West is giving them a grace period.
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Re: Related Events or Not?
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2019, 12:47:36 PM »
https://news.usni.org/2019/07/02/14-sailors-die-on-secretive-russian-nuclear-submarine

Umm....

"From your preliminary reports, of the 14 killed, seven were captains and two were Heroes of Russia."

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/60881

OK, starting to see the reason for the VP to stay in town...sounds like Vlad just executed some opposition in his Naval forces!

And yeah...investigating this is a guy who being a former Boomer captain would have to pass KGB muster to even step foot on a Boomer and really get examined up the wazoo and watched like a hawk by the assigned Zampolit!  So...likely a survivor like Putin who knows who butters his bread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Yevmenov

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Re: Related Events or Not?
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2019, 07:02:48 AM »
Sticking with the cover story...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stricken-russian-nuke-sub-crew-prevented-planetary-catastrophe/ar-AAE1Fn5

No investigation into threats against families or bank accounts of any involved?  Check.

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