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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #240 on: October 14, 2011, 04:09:38 PM »
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Breaking: new evidence shows Hillary a mastermind behind Gunwalker

Ho-lee-sh¡t!!!

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According to sources, Hillary was obsessed with gun statistics that would prove that '90% of the firearms used by Mexican criminals come from the United States.' As previouly reported, that meme, repeated incessantly by Democratic Senators, Barack Obama, certan members of the ATF, Janet Napolitano, and Hillary Clinton was patently and blatantly false. The fact that they all knew it was false is borne out by the lengths to which each of the above named co-conspirators went to attempt to 'prove' that the 90% figure was true...

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...Recall what the whistleblower ATF agents told us right after this scandal broke in the wake of the death of Brian Terry: "ATF source confirms ‘walking’ guns to Mexico to ‘pad’ statistics."

...Thus, from the beginning the scheme was to pad statistics on U.S. guns in Mexico in order to be in a strengthened position to call for gun bans and strict gun control at a time when it was politically unpopular. Further, the scheme would involve a made-up statistic, out of thin air--90%--which then had to be proved by using civilian gun retailers along the southern border as unsuspecting pawns to walk U.S. guns into Mexico by ATF agents, straw purchasers, and others with connections to Mexican drug cartels.

And the evidence points to the fact that Hillary Clinton was one of the original Administration officials who was 'in the loop' on the scheme from the very beginning.

Ho-lee-sh¡t!!!

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #241 on: October 14, 2011, 04:18:42 PM »

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Hillary Clinton was one of the original Administration officials who was 'in the loop' on the scheme from the very beginning.

Put her in the pot, that's fine but don't neglect the others.


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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #242 on: October 14, 2011, 04:33:24 PM »

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Hillary Clinton was one of the original Administration officials who was 'in the loop' on the scheme from the very beginning.

Put her in the pot, that's fine but don't neglect the others.


see them all sniffing and drooling around the table

No way 'neglect the others'!  We get a pot as big as the underside of DuhWun's bus and we can get rid of ALL of them in one fell swoop.

Damn right, Ho-lee-sh¡t!!!, IDP.

Pray for Issa; that he knows what he's doing, does it, and stays safe while he's doing it.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #243 on: October 14, 2011, 06:53:41 PM »
...We get a pot as big as the underside of DuhWun's bus and we can get rid of ALL of them in one fell swoop.

Damn right, Ho-lee-sh¡t!!!, IDP.

Pray for Issa; that he knows what he's doing, does it, and stays safe while he's doing it.

 ::praying:: ::praying:: ::praying::

and

 ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban::

and

 ::popcorn:: ::popcorn:: ::popcorn::

Round all up!
I've said since BO was elected that all the libs would take his election as an excuse to do anything they wanted--running roughshod over all of us. I hope they all took advantage of it and that they all in up in the pot together.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #244 on: October 15, 2011, 11:34:33 AM »
...I've said since BO was elected that all the libs would take his election as an excuse to do anything they wanted--running roughshod over all of us....

I've thought the same thing too LadyV. The thing that has been nagging at me since ObamaCare is that they have acted as if they have no fear of consequences. Almost as if they knew that they could act with impunity, and that 2012 would not be a problem.

It's either that, or they're all complete idiots who thought that totalitarianism would be considered a welcome gift by the American people.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #245 on: October 15, 2011, 07:01:01 PM »
... or they're all complete idiots who thought that totalitarianism would be considered a welcome gift by the American people.

that^^

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #246 on: October 16, 2011, 04:11:04 PM »
I don't want to neglect the others......but many times there is the scapegoat.....the sacrificial lamb. Since there apparantly are so many high rankers who knew....I don't want to make lite of those who died because of liberal stupidity, but if Issa keeps the pressure up, who will be the first lib to squeal?

This is one tme they cannot blame Bush, but who will be the first to cut a deal?
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #247 on: October 16, 2011, 04:19:21 PM »
  Go for the bastards in office now and the rest will float to the top as everybody tries to make a deal. Give the rats the oportunity to eat each other.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #248 on: October 16, 2011, 04:34:58 PM »
I don't want to neglect the others......but many times there is the scapegoat.....the sacrificial lamb. Since there apparantly are so many high rankers who knew....I don't want to make lite of those who died because of liberal stupidity, but if Issa keeps the pressure up, who will be the first lib to squeal?

This is one tme they cannot blame Bush, but who will be the first to cut a deal?

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1730.msg36062.html#msg36062

IIRC today Holeder [sic] said that it wasn't he that viewed the emails it was one of his assistants.

OK he's getting ready to dump on an assistant.
The assistants know one of them is going to be dumped on.
All the assistants are nervous.
Come on assistant, give it up, tell us what you know and we'll let you go.


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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #249 on: October 16, 2011, 04:53:21 PM »
I don't want to neglect the others......but many times there is the scapegoat.....the sacrificial lamb. Since there apparantly are so many high rankers who knew....I don't want to make lite of those who died because of liberal stupidity, but if Issa keeps the pressure up, who will be the first lib to squeal?

This is one tme they cannot blame Bush, but who will be the first to cut a deal?

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1730.msg36062.html#msg36062

IIRC today Holeder [sic] said that it wasn't he that viewed the emails it was one of his assistants.

OK he's getting ready to dump on an assistant.
The assistants know one of them is going to be dumped on.
All the assistants are nervous.
Come on assistant, give it up, tell us what you know and we'll let you go.




Thanks, I forgot this had been a topic of discussion.

 "Character" and democrat have nothing in common. Like water and oil, they don't mix. I guess Holder believes America is so stupid to believe an underling would be in charge of such a program..... Crap, I forgot.Wall street protestors, Holder does believe America is stupid.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #250 on: October 16, 2011, 05:51:30 PM »

Rush is right

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He calls it racialist. There is a racialist attitude that has pervaded in the appointees, in the agenda, in the policies.  I said, "What do you mean by racialist?"  He said, "I want to be clear.  I'm not calling them racist.  The prism that they look through as they judge every case is via race."

And using my own words, paraphrasing what Christian Adams told me, he said it's not just the Department of Justice, civil rights division, the voting rights division, it's not just that you have a bunch of liberals in there now, that there is this sense of payback, that Holder carries around with him a statement -- in fact,...

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #251 on: October 16, 2011, 06:29:15 PM »
Yup, he's right.

Again!

We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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« Reply #252 on: October 16, 2011, 07:23:17 PM »
"random act of journalism. . ."  LOL!

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #253 on: October 16, 2011, 08:47:28 PM »
It might be time to warm up Old Sparky.

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #254 on: October 16, 2011, 11:12:02 PM »

Put them in that room for 45 minutes with Alan West.



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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #255 on: October 17, 2011, 07:00:26 AM »
First -



Then Old Sparky!

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« Reply #256 on: October 17, 2011, 06:15:20 PM »
I watched the Green Mile last night.Works for me.
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« Reply #257 on: October 17, 2011, 07:13:44 PM »
Really like that movie.
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« Reply #258 on: October 18, 2011, 06:11:35 AM »
Historically, I learned Dickens' work was originally a serial read published in the newspapers.  Newspapers no longer hold that spot in our cultural panoply, but paperback books do (or at least did what with the prices now).  I remember reading Zelazny's Amber series on an 'anxiously awaiting paperback release' basis.  I read the first two Dune books, and watched for the release of the third, Children of Dune; it was also a group thing with those I hung out with in college - to be one of those who read it early (like those who wait in line overnight for some Star Wars movie).  (From Wiki:  "A sequel, Dune Messiah, followed in 1969. A third novel called Children of Dune was published in 1976, and was later nominated for a Hugo Award. Children of Dune became the first hardcover best-seller ever in the science fiction field. In 1981 Herbert released God Emperor of Dune, which was ranked as the #11 hardcover fiction best seller of 1981 by Publishers Weekly. 1984's Heretics of Dune, The New York Times #13 hardcover fiction best seller of that year, was followed in quick succession by Chapterhouse: Dune in 1985. Herbert died on February 11, 1986.")  I gave up after trying to read God Emperor of Dune.  I also remember The Green Mile serial in paperback, five thin books, checking the mall bookstore near where I worked quite often to see if the latest was out.  They were all quick reads, and you really wanted the next book because you had no idea where the story was going.  Reading The Green Mile as it came out in those small paperbacks, was as close to being a reader of Dickens' work in Victorian newspaper serial fashion as I've ever experienced.  But then again, for any of this story to make any sense one has to love to read (as people who post regularly on blogs do, I mean, c'mon, we have to read each other soooooo. . .).  Culturally, now it's the latest video game; even movies have taken a back seat to video games and gaming in general.  Oh well.

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« Reply #259 on: October 18, 2011, 06:42:11 AM »
I had forgotten all about that serial roll-out of "The Green Mile". That was a unique thing, especially since King had been seemingly pumping out a book-a-year at the time. You couldn't hardly walk through the grocery store - let alone a book store - for a couple decades it seems, without seeing the name Stephen King.
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