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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #380 on: December 24, 2011, 07:42:10 PM »

Pressure can be applied from different directions in different forms.
How often does Krauthammer use the word incompetent and how many
people has he called incompetent from a national forum?  I would hazard
a guess and say none.  Those words in Krauthammer's world will weigh
heavy on Holder.


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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #382 on: January 06, 2012, 01:58:40 AM »
WANTED BY THE FBI: The Bush Mind Controller who makes the Obamanoids do all those stupid Mexican gun tricks.

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[blockquote] The Justice Department released documents Thursday on the Bush-era Wide Receiver gun-walking operation..[wait for it 1,2,3, --]
the targets of the investigation had purchased 181 firearms.
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Yes folks the dreaded Bushmeister who now infiltrates Obama every thought closed down the  operation after 181 walks.  However, he has returned in Obama's brain and has caused hundreds of murders of innocent Mexicans and the murder of at least one and probably more American citizens.  Will Obama ever exorcise this demon?

Becca Watkins, a spokewoman for Issa’s office said:
[blockquote]“It is deeply discouraging that top Justice officials knew such details about problems in Operation Wide Receiver yet were still so quick to dismiss warnings from whistleblowers about reckless and dangerous tactics happening on a much larger scale in Operation Fast and Furious.”
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #383 on: January 06, 2012, 06:48:04 AM »
So, what?  The Regime is pissed because they took a bad idea from the eeeevil Bush and magnified it times 1000 and got an agent killed and somehow this is all Bush's fault?  This Regime needs to end, NOW!
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #384 on: January 06, 2012, 06:05:52 PM »

Report: Government Vastly Overstating Immigration Enforcement
This is remarkable. A just-released Syracuse University study indicates that the government is overstating its enforcement of the immigration laws by a staggering amount.

According to TRAC, Syracuse’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency (ICE) has overstated the number of immigration law violators apprehended by a 5:1 ratio. And that’s the good news. Deportations were overstated by 24:1 and detentions by 34:1.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #385 on: January 06, 2012, 09:10:55 PM »
There is NOTHING this administration doesn't misrepresent or lie about outright.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #386 on: January 07, 2012, 11:00:20 AM »
Tyrants will, and apparently are, able to do anything.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #388 on: January 20, 2012, 11:58:44 AM »
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Cunningham is represented by Tobin Romero of Williams and Connolly who is a specialist in white collar crime. In the letter, he suggests witnesses from the Department of Justice in Washington, who have spoken in support of Attorney General Eric Holder, are wrong or lying.

“Department of Justice officials have reported to the Committee that my client relayed inaccurate information to the Department upon which it relied in preparing its initial response to Congress. If, as you claim, Department officials have blamed my client, they have blamed him unfairly,” the letter to Issa says.

Romero claims Cunningham did nothing wrong and acted in good faith, but the Department of Justice in Washington is making him the fall guy, claiming he failed to accurately provide the Oversight Committee with information on the execution of Fast and Furious.

"To avoid needless preparation by the Committee and its staff for a deposition next week, I am writing to advise you that my client is going to assert his constitutional privilege not to be compelled to be a witness against himself." Romero told Issa.

This schism is the first big break in what has been a unified front in the government’s defense of itself in the gun-running scandal. Cunningham claims he is a victim of a conflict between two branches of government and will not be compelled to be a witnesses against himself, and make a statement that could be later used by a grand jury or special prosecutor to indict him on criminal charges.

Next move is to grant him immunity in return for testifying; probably exactly what he's vying for now.

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #389 on: January 20, 2012, 12:13:03 PM »
Yeah, you are so optimistic (jus' kiddin'!), I have less faith in these bureaucrats to recognize the right thing to do, let alone be expected to do it!

And even if we get one guy to crack, what evidence remains unshredded to make this anything other than an exercise in finger-pointing?!

If anybody gets immunity they better have documents, flash drives, audio/video clips, bullets, stained dress...whatever!
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #390 on: January 20, 2012, 12:15:59 PM »
I hear ya.

The author does have a point about the first schism, though, don't you think?

Somebody is going to crack and spill as long as Issa and Grassley keep on the pressure.  I only hope, as you do, that whoever does will have a smoking gun.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #391 on: January 20, 2012, 12:22:31 PM »

But, is the fix in? Issa staff reported to have witheld information from Grassley. "The roach motel of press inquiries."

Ever since they used the Arizona Republic as a sourch, Erick banned me for that, I take them with a grain of salt. However, they are in there going for it.

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #392 on: January 20, 2012, 12:29:38 PM »
I hear ya.

The author does have a point about the first schism, though, don't you think?

Somebody is going to crack and spill as long as Issa and Grassley keep on the pressure.  I only hope, as you do, that whoever does will have a smoking gun.

I agree on all points.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #393 on: January 20, 2012, 12:30:30 PM »

But, is the fix in? Issa staff reported to have witheld information from Grassley. "The roach motel of press inquiries."

Ever since they used the Arizona Republic as a sourch, Erick banned me for that, I take them with a grain of salt. However, they are in there going for it.


Roach Motel!   ::laughonfloor::  Love it!

If it works, fine with me!  I want results!  (Regime butts in prison!)

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #394 on: January 20, 2012, 08:28:21 PM »

But, is the fix in? Issa staff reported to have witheld information from Grassley. "The roach motel of press inquiries."

Ever since they used the Arizona Republic as a sourch, Erick banned me for that, I take them with a grain of salt. However, they are in there going for it.


Roach Motel!   ::laughonfloor::  Love it!

If it works, fine with me!  I want results!  (Regime butts in prison!)

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Arizona Legislature to open investigation of Feds re; Fast & Furious
« Reply #395 on: January 21, 2012, 12:09:41 PM »
Arizona strikes back: State investigates feds over gun-running

Arizona's state legislature will open its own investigation into the Obama administration's disgraced gun-running program, known as "Fast and Furious," the speaker of the state House said Friday.

Speaker Andy Tobin created the committee, and charged it with looking at whether the program broke any state laws — raising the possibility of state penalties against those responsible for the operation.

It's a turnaround from the rest of the immigration issue, where the federal government has sued to block the state's own set of laws...

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... Mr. Tobin will announce the committee's jurisdiction at a press conference in Phoenix on Monday. The committee is charged with looking into the facts about the program, what impact it had on Arizona and whether any of the state's laws were broken.

A report is due back by March 30....
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #396 on: January 21, 2012, 01:33:21 PM »

WANTED
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Erick Holder
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HIGH CRIMES AND MISDORMEANORS
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$10,000,000 upon presentation to the State


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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #397 on: January 22, 2012, 11:54:38 AM »
Dead or Alive?!

 ::whoohoo::
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #398 on: January 22, 2012, 08:31:37 PM »
Dead or Alive?!

 ::whoohoo::

They REALLY should add the WH to the list.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #399 on: January 23, 2012, 07:27:17 AM »
Dead or Alive?!

 ::whoohoo::

They REALLY should add the WH to the list.

Yeah, this is the most lawless Regime since Andrew Jackson, that's for sure.
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