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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #520 on: June 13, 2012, 01:38:13 PM »
It could be that Issa has had the goods on Holder all along, and has saved this "ramping up" of charges for right before the Presdential election.

It is my belief that that is exactly what's going on. I expect it to get more heated soon and to continue to be an issue all through the run-up to November.

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #521 on: June 13, 2012, 01:42:36 PM »
It could be that Issa has had the goods on Holder all along, and has saved this "ramping up" of charges for right before the Presdential election.

It is my belief that that is exactly what's going on. I expect it to get more heated soon and to continue to be an issue all through the run-up to November.

As long as they crush necks!   ::oldman::

Yup!
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #522 on: June 13, 2012, 01:57:17 PM »
I also think it's big that NBC has finally mentioned the case, even in their obfuscating way. They may see the sh*tstorm on the horizon and figured they better make at least a perfunctory effort at getting out in front of this thing.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #523 on: June 13, 2012, 03:57:29 PM »
 TICK TICK TICK the election is getting closer and closer and this thing is getting hotter and hotter.


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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #524 on: June 14, 2012, 06:48:42 AM »
Can't get hot enough or fast enough to suit me.  Holder ought to be in federal pound-it in-the-ass prison and Obama should be impeached, but in an election year with skeerdie-cat pubbies running a reelection op, I will have to be disappointed again.

Anyway, more gasoline, more fire!

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #526 on: June 14, 2012, 12:33:58 PM »
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #527 on: June 14, 2012, 01:43:48 PM »
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When Holder was in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee earlier this week, he repeatedly claimed he was more than willing to cooperate with the investigation, and Deputy Attorney General James Cole has also asked for a private meeting with House Oversight Committee members. To that effect, Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa sent Holder a letter on Wednesday asking him to actually follow through on those bold-faced “let’s make a deal” proclamations and quit the dithering.

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And hey, here’s another interesting tidbit: On Wednesday afternoon, the DOJ announced that Ronald Weich, an assistant attorney general for legislative affairs who once denied reports of ATF gunwalking, is leaving his job.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #530 on: June 19, 2012, 11:15:10 PM »
Yes.  It damn well did.

WAR.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #531 on: June 20, 2012, 07:26:52 AM »
Yes.  It damn well did.

WAR.

Amen!

HotAir calls this a "game of chicken".

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/19/no-deal-after-meeting-issa-says-contempt-vote-on-holder-is-still-on/

Not sure I would go with that analogy, given that Pubbies are often on the wrong side of that deal!

WAR is the right comparison, and while I fully expect that the Regime's tainted AG will continue to defy oversight and refuse to provide documents even if the House passes the contempt citation, it is a necessary step toward removing this POS from office.  And WAR means using all weapons in your arsenal, it is time Congress, States and citizens everywhere to stand in defiance of this lawless Regime and openly ignore, frustrate and battle their unconstitutional edicts.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #532 on: June 20, 2012, 09:29:23 AM »
Now they're claiming Executive Privilege.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #533 on: June 20, 2012, 09:47:18 AM »
Now they're claiming Executive Privilege.

I see their priviledge and whip out the trump card of the Declaration of Independence.  I deem this Regime in violation of Founding Principles.  Time for The People to execute their God-given rights!

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #534 on: June 20, 2012, 09:56:59 AM »
If I was Issa, I would declare that Obama must have been involved all along with fast and furious. In order to qualify for ex. priv,the president must have been involved, and obama has american blood on his hands.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #535 on: June 20, 2012, 10:18:32 AM »
If I was Issa, I would declare that Obama must have been involved all along with fast and furious. In order to qualify for ex. priv,the president must have been involved, and obama has american blood on his hands.

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #536 on: June 20, 2012, 10:28:43 AM »

Ah, election year presidential impeachment festivities
and for added attraction indictments all around.

             


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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #537 on: June 20, 2012, 10:45:48 AM »
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #538 on: June 20, 2012, 10:47:48 AM »

FLASHBACK 2007: Obama Attacked Trying "To Hide Behind Executive Privilege"

Obama in 2007 told CNN that Executive Privilege was not a good reason to with hold information from Congress.

Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa

“The assertion of executive privilege raises monumental questions,” ...

“How can the president assert executive privilege if there was no White House involvement? How can the president exert executive privilege over documents he’s supposedly never seen? Is something very big being hidden to go to this extreme? The contempt citation is an important procedural mechanism in our system of checks and balances,” ...

« Last Edit: June 20, 2012, 10:54:12 AM by Charles Oakwood »

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #539 on: June 20, 2012, 11:04:04 AM »
  He did this because the liar in chief is in it up to his ass.
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