Topic: "Outriders"

[Pandora]

According to Answers.com, "outrider" =

1.  A guide; an escort.
2.  One that goes in advance; a forerunner

There are three, but these two apply.

I'd like to speak to you about an odious phrase, as insidiously evil in its way as "From each according to his ability; to each according to his need" or "Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Fuhrer!" It's not a phrase in common parlance, but one that has appeared in a great many appellate court decisions, both state and federal. It's the single most destructive verbal weapon ever wielded against Americans' rights.

The phrase is "compelling government interest."

Have you seen or heard that phrase before? Are you familiar with the way it's used by appellate courts? If so, and if you approve of its use, don't come anywhere near me unless you're wearing body armor and a motorcycle helmet at the least.

You see, in the judicial lexicon of the past century, a "compelling government interest" trumps a man's individual rights, Constitutionally guaranteed or not. When it's used in an appeals court's decision, it nullifies whatever rights stand opposed to it. So if Smith has a right of some sort, but some government can argue that it has a "compelling government interest" in violating his right, the poor sap loses despite whatever the Constitution might say.

Right to your property? Sorry; our highly trained detectives smelled marijuana in the vicinity of your house, so we have to break down the door, roust whoever we find, and pretty much destroy the place while we search.
Right to your liberty, your freedom of speech, movement, and association? Nope: You've been talkin' treason over the airwaves, or the Internet. You've tried to see your kids despite the restraining order your vindictive ex-wife got against you -- of course without a trial. You've declined to hire Jones, a member of a protected minority. We simply can't have that.
Right to your life? Come on; how can we respect that while we're busy breaking in your door in the dead of night without a warrant, and you dare to come down the stairs holding a bat, or a poker, or (gasp!) a gun?

"Compelling government interest." Read a few Supreme Court decisions; you'll find it. What you won't find is any Constitutional justification for it. For, after all, who defines what constitutes a "compelling government interest?" By what standards are such assertions validated?

Time was, it was understood that individual rights are supreme over all assertions of the State. How could it be otherwise, if a right was in any way different from a permission?

Time was.

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I'm moving away from fearing that the country might crash and toward hoping that it will. As matters stand, Americans have no rights. As Ayn Rand once put it, governments and their agents are free to do whatever they please, to whomever they please, with little or no explanation, while individuals must beg permission for anything and everything. That's tyranny, plain and simple. It might not have blossomed to its fullest quite yet -- we still have some de facto freedom, if only because the State's enforcement power isn't infinite -- but the principles are in place and outrider actions such as the May 5 murder of Jose Guerena make it plain that our masters mean to be masters indeed.

If the current system should come apart under the weight of its excesses, the survivors might resurrect some sense for freedom, for the rights of the individual, and for the administration of justice under Constitutional constraint. There's more chance of that than of restoring the Republic from its current degenerated condition.

Pardon the vulgarity, but I'm way, way too old for this sh*t.

Pray.

Eternity Road

That phrase has alternately irked and outraged me.  What the hell "compelling interest", other than growing its own power, could the government have over protecting my rights, which is the only valid reason for government.  Once it has "compelling interests" of its own, it's a tyranny.

I'm with Fran; I'm getting too old for this sh*t, thus I don't want to fight "them", I want to kill "them" and be done with it.

[Sectionhand]

"Compelling Government Interest" allows them to take your property ( house and land ) and give it to some a**hole who wants to build a mall or entertainment venue . Usually that a**hole is a major contributor to some political party . It's happened several times in recent years and there isn't a damned thing you can do about it .

[Pandora]

"Compelling Government Interest" allows them to take your property ( house and land ) and give it to some a**hole who wants to build a mall or entertainment venue . Usually that a**hole is a major contributor to some political party . It's happened several times in recent years and there isn't a damned thing you can do about it .

Cheery thought.  But wrong.

[Glock32]

I think if you look back throughout history at various uprisings, rebellions, insurgencies, or even short-lived riots, the common thread is that people began to feel that naturally fearsome outcomes like death, imprisonment, and destitution had become only the second-worst possibilities. Realizing that other people feel the same way is pretty much the spark that causes the existing order to rapidly lose its veneer of legitimacy. For all the ridiculously rosy appraisals of the "Arab Spring", that is one thing it did demonstrate, that these events that seemed to come out of nowhere had actually been festering for a long time. People just realized they were far from a minority in their thoughts. Hence things like "compelling government interest" designed to remind the individual that he is just an individual, a bug to be squashed under the heel of State Almighty. It's illusory, and it never lasts forever.

[Sectionhand]

"Compelling Government Interest" allows them to take your property ( house and land ) and give it to some a**hole who wants to build a mall or entertainment venue . Usually that a**hole is a major contributor to some political party . It's happened several times in recent years and there isn't a damned thing you can do about it .

Cheery thought.  But wrong.

Okay ... So how would you go about it short of armed revolt ? I'm not aware of anyone recently winning one of these cases . Forcibly resisting automatically loses you the advantage of public sympathy .

[Libertas]

By the time armed revolt becomes necessary it also may be too late, given the level of government intrusion required to make it apparent to the "it'll never happen here/to me" types...

 

[charlesoakwood]

If there is an armed revolt it will be put down quick.  Local police here a better equiped than 3rd world military.  And Federal Toys such as those that "see" into your house or vehicle and eyes in the sky not to mention kinetic capability will take care of dissidents quickly.   

One may look at voting percentages  to evaluate the numerical participation.  It will be submission or disolution.

[Libertas]

I will not submit.

[Weisshaupt]

Hoping/waiting for collapse is our best chance.  Right now the cry babies are yelling tax the rich and looking to government as the solution. After the collapse they will know the government isn't coming to save them, and all of the high tech toys the military has won't help em if they can't pay anyone to use them. My worst fear is an external attack while we are down and disorganized.

[John Florida]

I will not submit.

!

[charlesoakwood]

If the collapse or implosion comes it will be the cry babies fending for themselves with the expectant results.  However, to not expect the government and military not to have a survival scenario similar or superior to their MAD survival scenario would be remiss.

The DC elites and the military have years of oil, fuel, food, real money, material and supplies.  They could easily allow the cry babies to diminish themselves and remnant excessive population then declare martial law on the survivors.  Rural folk, as always, will be the last overcome.

Unless the great prince succeeds in neutering our missile defense systems we may suffer greatly from external attack but it or they will not be successful and the aggressor knows attacking a wounded enemy will be asking for full retaliation.  This is not lost upon them as it is our complacent populace.

[Glock32]

The DC elites and the military have years of oil, fuel, food, real money, material and supplies.  They could easily allow the cry babies to diminish themselves and remnant excessive population then declare martial law on the survivors.  Rural folk, as always, will be the last overcome.

The Soviet leadership had all that too, but when they lost legitimacy it came very fast. I don't look for anything to be a given in any sort of implosion scenario. For all their otherness the DC elites are not a foreign army of occupation, they depend on cooperation from the population at large. The moment they are reduced to using overtly coercive measures is the moment their fate is sealed, even if it is effective for them in the short term.

It's like the Empire using the Death Star to blow up planets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXCfEhW0R3k

[Libertas]

"The moment they are reduced to using overtly coercive measures is the moment their fate is sealed, even if it is effective for them in the short term."

Yup.

[Weisshaupt]

The moment they are reduced to using overtly coercive measures is the moment their fate is sealed, even if it is effective for them in the short term.

My fear is they won't need overly coercive measures. They will take us into WWIII - How many countries are we actively attacking now in the Middle East?  How far is Iran from a Nuke? I wouldn't be surprised if we weren't helping them make it.  Israel is on its own, and like all of our former allies, hung out to dry.

They will get out of the financial  mess and deal with the hordes by rationing, and drafting the young and unemployed.  All these little events of SWAT team action to collect loans, collecting guns in Katrina, , etc are probing.. trying to see how the public will react to those measures, and you can be sure we won't hear about them. Borat will use his powers to shut down our internet "for our safety" - In the end Borat wants the US dead and gone - clearing the way for Socialist Utopia, or Caliphate - it doesn't really matter, to us or probably even to him. The Great Satan is gone- he was a great one term President.

[John Florida]

Our middle east policy is working pefectly. Attack half of it and throw the Jews under the bus. Brilliant!!

[charlesoakwood]

The only nation that wants WWIII is Iran and its 12th Imam crew. 
For Iran, conflagration and immolation by USA nuke is the path to the great eventuality. 
All other nations are not suicidal.

[John Florida]

The only nation that wants WWIII is Iran and its 12th Imam crew. 
For Iran, conflagration and immolation by USA nuke is the path to the great eventuality. 
All other nations are not suicidal.

 I think they should be careful what they wish for.Obama isn't going to be in the WH for ever.

[charlesoakwood]

Obama, taking a lesson from history and realizing that rural areas have been the most difficult for Tyrants to control and a breeding ground for resistance to Tyrants has created a special advisory council to recommend ways to boost economic outlook and quality of life for rural Americans.

And we know that his words always a mirror image of the reality.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_RURAL_COUNCIL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-06-08-20-47-10

[Libertas]

Bad link CO.

 

Bloody AP!

 

[charlesoakwood]

Related article:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/obama-to-create-advisory-council-to-help-boost-prosperity-quality-of-life-in-rural-us/2011/06/08/AGGPYXMH_story.html

He is sending help to rural America.  One must theorize it will be as helpful as his other programs to improve America.

A related aside:

Open Letter from a USDA Employee
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - June 9, AD 2011 3:03 PM MST
Ann,

Spot-on analysis (regarding the White House "Rural Council"). The only problem, I fear, is that it's too little too late. USDA (or as I call them, the Department of Rural Poverty), has already done a great job of infiltrating rural communities by offering great-paying jobs with health insurance. Farmer/Rancher kid goes off to college, gets a degree in Ag Econ, and comes back to his hometown and becomes the next USDA loan officer with FSA or Range Conservationist with NRCS because he hasn't figured out how to make a living in production agriculture because State U fed his mind with a bunch of pullusfimus instead of REAL knowledge and problem-solving skills. He has no misgivings about the "great good" that USDA does. After all, he's probably making more money than he would as VP of the local bank, managing the local feed store, or working for Dad. He "helps" people by giving them low-interest loans when they can't get a loan at the local bank because it won't cash flow, or signing him up for cost share "conservation" programs, subsidy payments, and the like. After all, he's a nice guy. Our kids are in 4-H together, and he's a deacon at church, too. Little do they know that as both employees and beneficiaries of such USDA goodies, they have become beholden to Secretary Vilsack (rhymes with nut...). And that's just chicken feed compared to the multi-million dollar loans for such boondoggles as multi-family rural housing, rural broadband internet, "organic" farming, Pigford recipients, FOOD STAMPS (48 million recipients and counting) etc. The infrastructure is already there. They just need more ACORN-minded Shirley Sherrods to fill those bureaucratic positions.

Yes, I am a hypocrite. I as a young man, I bought the pullusfimus, and I still work for USDA. But I made an oath to support and defend the Constitution, promote agriculture, and fight fraud, waste, and abuse within USDA. The best way I can think of to promote agriculture is to do everything in my power to discourage as many people as I can to stay out of your local USDA office. Don't apply for the loan. Don't report your acreage so that you can get your payments. When times get tough, don't get Food Stamps, get blisters and callouses. Once you start down that path, that "easy" money does something to people's brains, and they develop a sense of entitlement. And that's how they get you. Now you're dependent upon the Man, and the Man makes the rules. And when the Man changes the rules, people cheat, lie, and steal to get what they "deserve." Unfortunately, that's when I show up, only I don't have a checkbook, I have a set of handcuffs. But I would cease to exist if you would've stayed out of the USDA office. I will do my best to discourage as many people as possible to avail themselves of USDA "services", and I'm starting with the worst of the bunch. What I'm asking every agricultural producer in America to do is this: put me and every USDA employee out of business. If you don't buy our "products," we cease to have power. If you want the Federal Government out of your business, quit taking the money. If you want the Federal Government out of your community, run for city council and quit taking the federal grants with the strings attached. You want a smaller, constitutional government? Do what Nancy Reagan told us when we were kids: JUST SAY NO! I am convinced that easy and "free" money is far more dangerous drugs.

Over the last 10 years, I've arrested hundreds of people (USDA employees included) for fraud, permanently disqualified thousands from food stamps and other entitlement programs, and recovered millions of dollars (some of which went overseas to people who celebrate when planes are flown into buildings). And it all could've been prevented, if only people wouldn't have fallen for the ruse of getting something for nothing. I'm doing my best to put myself out of business by going after as many criminals as I can and discouraging the rest from "partnering" with USDA. I'm asking rural America put me out of business too. We would do well to heed the example of Abraham, who said to the king of Sodom, "I have sworn to the LORD God Most High, Possessor of Heaven and Earth, that I will not take a thread or a sandal thong or anything that is yours, for fear you would say, 'I have made Abram rich.'"

Ann, If you deem this worthy of posting on your blog, feel free to edit as needed. Over the last couple of years, I've been giving this message over and over to the detriment of my career. I can't be afraid of the truth anymore. Silence is Treason.

Signed,
USDA Employee