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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2023, 10:05:50 AM »

More from Duran. Trying to  figure out this mess. The Armenian leader is acting strange in their opinion. Similar to the Georgia leader who harmed Georgia.
Armenia will be isolated in the region after pissing off almost everybody.

Armenia leader recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as sovereign Azeri territory.
https://youtu.be/HGb3NvrnNS0
Armenia pushed towards disaster scenario
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I am watching citizens block traffic in Yerevan demanding Pashinyan step down and masses are trying to go into the government building. 🙏🏼🙏🏼 now that this get resolved! Armenia has suffered so much for long enough!

video clip of protest
https://t.me/inessas1992/4704
update
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/8826
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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2023, 12:44:16 PM »
I doubt the US will rebuild anything.  I do not recall the US rebuilding Iraq, Syria, Libya, Vietnam  ....
Maybe I am wrong.

I notice things now I did not before.
1. When there is a 'pro Democracy' protest somewhere I wonder who paid for it. Often US NED or other NGOs. E.g. lots of money went into some in Georgia as I recall. Georgia proposed a law requiring NGOs to disclose foreign funding if over 20%. US and EU politicians went public with outrage. So we know who paid for the protests.

Victoria Nuland said that US pumped $5B into Ukr before the coup.

US pumped money into Thailand to influence the recent election.

2. Why do MSM and US mouthpieces for the US govt run stories that change the narrative?  E.g. NYT just ran a factual piece on the missile strike in Ukr and blamed Kiev govt. That is new. https://archive.ph/O0nTu

Why is Russel Brand being cancelled and why now? He was in a consensual relationship with 4 women and acted like an A-hole.  He is a predatory A-hole but many other are as well. Did he blaspheme big pharma?

3. When foreign leaders sell out their citizens, do they have their exit package all worked out? Were they paid in advance? See most of EU. Maybe Armenia?

Lots of kinetic action in Nagorno-Karabakh. Duran said that Putin is pissed that the Armenian leader gave away the store. Putin basically said that he made it impossible for RU to do anything now that he admitted that N-K was sovereign Azeri territory.

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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2023, 05:18:53 PM »
The Duran was on Danny Haiphong.
Alex has recently visited Armenia. Said there are very strong ties to Russia. Everyone speaks Russian and many excellent English. Many in Putin cabinet are Armenian. Lavrov in part.
Trying to turn Armenia western might be difficult. They think the leader is dangerous and hard to figure out.

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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2023, 05:21:36 PM »

https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/09/19/azerbaijan-resumes-war-to-capture-karabakh-providing-2000-russian-peacekeepers-minimal-formal-notice-it-was-no-secret-anyway-up-to-100000-refugees-pending-due-to-threat-from-iran-buildup-of-se/?preview_id=32208

(Sorry for earlier dead link.) Azerbaijan resumes war to capture Karabakh, providing 2000 Russian peacekeepers minimal formal notice (it was no secret anyway.) Up to 100,000 refugees pending. Due to threat from Iran (buildup of several top brigades on Azeri/Arm/Turk border region, & missile forces on war alert), there will be no invasion of south Armenia at this time. Armenian govt has publicly written off Karabakh (not officially part of Armenia); invasion was likely coordinated through Western (most likely UK) intel mediators, with Russian awareness (Shoigu is in Iran *TODAY*.) Next step is rapid acceleration of process for Armenia to join NATO.
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« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2023, 08:09:09 PM »
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« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2023, 08:14:46 PM »
From the above Dreizin link
Not to mention, Armenia is so poor, and there are almost as many Armenians in RUSSIA… as in Armenia.

What that means, the country, if taken into NATO as a U.S. project…..

…..WILL eventually flip back, like Georgia, to neutral or even Russian-aligned…..

…..and then, Russia could literally have… like… an “agent” inside NATO?

LOL, does the USA (or the EU) really WANT this country?

Well, not badly…..

But, it has to go through the well-rehearsed motions of “bringing a new member into the fold.”

Nonetheless, Armenia’s present, “Soros graduate” regime, has been banking on BIG benefits from flipping westwards.

Putin has been WISE to completely sit this one out.
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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #46 on: September 20, 2023, 10:21:03 AM »

https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/09/20/through-russian-mediation-karabakh-capitulates-negotiations-for-reintegration-into-azerbaijan-to-begin-tomorrow-there-will-obviously-be-no-instant-mass-cleansing-but-no-ones-gonna-stick-ar/

Through Russian mediation, Karabakh capitulates; negotiations for “reintegration” into Azerbaijan to begin tomorrow. There will obviously be no instant mass cleansing, but, no one’s gonna stick around for the long term, to live under Azeri laws, military administration, & “property return” to Azeri refugees or their descendants.

Karabakh exiles with relatives in Russia, likely to be offered Russian visas, as Armenia can’t afford resettlement of ~100,000. Armenian govt remains in power as opposition is fragmented, & “Soros graduate” govt has majority support in capital city. Official line is to blame Russia for “not protecting” (yes, some people buy it, because some people buy anything the state media says), but truth is, cutting Karabakh loose was necessary for attempt at NATO & EU accession.

It will be INTERESTING to see how “eager” NATO & EU are *now* to integrate this sh*t sandwich of a candidate. As I said, Turkey will want “rights” to/in/through Armenian land corridor to Azerbaijan. Armenian govt will NOT be able to blame Russia for that one, LOL. The fun has only just started.
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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #47 on: September 20, 2023, 10:41:18 AM »

Lots of posts on this ukraine_watch source

https://t.me/ukraine_watch/8870
??🇦🇲The first tents have already been erected in Yerevan's Republic Square.

The demonstrators will not disperse and are ready to rally against the traitor Pashinyan until the end.
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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2023, 12:27:44 PM »


One version
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/8923
🇦🇲A brief overview of the situation in Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh.

Before the collapse of the Soviet Union, Nagorno-Karabakh was an Armenian autonomy within the Azerbaijani SSR. After the collapse of the USSR, the Azerbaijani authorities began to pursue a unifying and nationalist policy. There was no place for Armenians in the new Azerbaijan. The Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh declared their independence. But no one recognised it.

In 2018, Nikol Pashinyan, a former journalist linked to the Soros Foundation, came to power in Armenia. His rhetoric was pro-Western and Russophobic. Despite the fact that Russia was Armenia's only ally, he became increasingly openly anti-Moscow.

In 2020, the Second Karabakh War broke out, leading to Azerbaijan's seizure of large parts of Nagorno-Karabakh. Armenians were forced to flee or were killed. Pashinyan did nothing to help his people. As a result of the Second Karabakh War, Russian peacekeepers were deployed in the region.

For the past year, Azerbaijan has pursued a policy of blockade of Nagorno-Karabakh. The Armenians have been isolated, suffering from hunger and lack of medicines. The Pashinyan regime did nothing to help the Armenians of Karabakh, but blamed Russia for all the problems of Karabakh. Although Russia was the only country that tried to help the Armenians of Karabakh.

Pashinyan is literally the Armenian Zelensky. In the interests of the West he betrayed his people and condemned them to death.
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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2023, 09:36:33 AM »

https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/09/21/i-wasnt-able-to-publish-this-yesterday-i-wrote-this-before-the-photos-videos-got-out-of-refugee-crowds-instant-mass-cleansing-back-on-table-as-azerbaijan-plays-hardball-hands-karabakh-a-li/

(I wasn’t able to publish this yesterday, I wrote this before the photos/videos got out of refugee crowds.) “Instant mass cleansing” back on table as Azerbaijan plays hardball, hands Karabakh a list of Karabakh current & former civil government officials & military commanders who must be “turned over” (b/c they are terrorists blah blah) prior to Azerbaijan allowing “humanitarian corridor” into Armenia.

Given that Karabakh population dipped (after 2020 war, this is latest figure I’ve ascertained) to 120,000, this means likely a substantial proportion of families (& certainly all “leading” families) have 1 or more on the list. *ALSO*, it’s a very clear “signal” of more HARDBALL to come… that is, of INTENT to “cleanse”, w/ no amnesty. Russia will probably finagle a corridor out, but… we’re looking at 120,000 homeless refugees (only a very small number would have homes in Armenia proper, the best-off likely got out after 2020.) “Woe to the vanquished.”
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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #50 on: September 22, 2023, 10:47:48 AM »

I have no idea if this is true. The Armenian president is not allowing refugees into Armenia? Because they hate him?


https://arka.am/en/news/politics/armenia_did_not_refuse_to_accept_artsakh_residents_pashinyan_says_there_are_places_to_accommodate_40/
Armenia did not refuse to accept Artsakh residents: Pashinyan says there are places to accommodate 40,000 families.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday/2298
??📣ARTSAKH HAS FALLEN!??📣 :(
Azerbaijan is Ethnically cleansing this territory of Armenians again.
??????It is report that has a result of another tri deal At 13:00 Yerevan time, hostilities in Artsakh will cease.
This is not the end. Now Azerbaijan will force these Armenians from their homes. These people's story needs to be told.
WHAT CAN I DO BUT GO THERE MYSELF?
Artsakh TG channel has made its last post
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My dear ones, avenge everyone and don’t forget about me...

HONOR! DUTY! MOTHERLAND!"

"1. Through the mediation of the command of the Russian peacekeeping contingent stationed in Nagorno-Karabakh, an agreement was reached on a complete cessation of hostilities from 13:00 on September 20, 2023.
 
2. An agreement was reached on the withdrawal of the remaining units and military personnel of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Armenia from the deployment zone of the Russian peacekeeping contingent and the disbandment and complete disarmament of the armed formations of the “Nagorno-Karabakh Defense Army” and the withdrawal of heavy equipment and weapons from the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh with the aim of their speedy disposal.

3. Issues raised by the Azerbaijani side on reintegration, ensuring the rights and security of the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh, as well as issues of ensuring the livelihoods of the population of Nagorno-Karabakh within the framework of the Constitution of Azerbaijan, according to the agreement reached, will be discussed at a meeting between representatives of the local Armenian population and representatives of the central authorities of the Republic of Azerbaijan , which will take place in the city of Yevlakh on September 21, 2023 and during subsequent meetings."
Said Artsakh Information Headquarters

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday/2299
This is very f**ked up. Like a death sentence to many https://t.me/mikayelbad says ???? Pashinyan will not allow Artsakh residents into Armenia.

According to my information, one of the conditions for the surrender of Artsakh by Armenia was not providing the residents of Artsakh with a corridor to Armenia. Artsakh residents will either have to accept Azerbaijani citizenship and live under their jurisdiction, or will be able to leave through Baku, where everyone will be investigated and only if Baku decides that this or that person is not guilty of anything, he will be able to leave . It goes without saying that 95% of the male population will not be able to leave through Baku.

Moreover, it becomes clear that these agreements were reached a long time ago, since a prison for 10,000 people has already been built in Aghdam for these purposes. It is absolutely clear that it was built specifically for these agreements.

It was naive to believe that Pashinyan would let the Artsakh people into Yerevan, because he fears them like fire, and after the final loss of his home, no red berets and stun grenades will stop them from retaliation.

At the moment, the Artsakh authorities and Russian representatives are negotiating with Azerbaijan and trying to prevent such a development of events.

It is important to understand that everyone who does not come to Republic Square today will be an accomplice not only to the surrender of Aruakh, but also to the genocide of the Armenians of Artsakh."

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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #51 on: September 22, 2023, 10:50:15 AM »
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« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2023, 05:50:46 PM »

PL in Armenia. protesters want the PM/pres gone.
'Easy to be the best English language reporter in some areas when you are the only one. Not sure if that is true here.

https://youtu.be/XR1TBwSOkm0
Journalist Patrick Lancaster joins Redacted to bring a firsthand report from Armenia where violence and protests have unfolded over the past 24 hours. Calls for revolution, and the overthrow of the government are persistent.  Right now 80,000 Armenians are trapped with no way out as Azerbaijan has block them from leaving.
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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2023, 12:41:28 PM »

https://t.me/IntelRepublic/28211
🇦🇿🇷🇺🇷🇺 Tanks, armored vehicles and plenty of small arms shown in vid above as Azeri army shows off weapons handed over  (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/28159)by Nagorno-Karabakh fighters following ceasefire proposed by Russian peacekeepers (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/28007).

UPDATE: Azerbaijani soldiers working "in close cooperation" with Russian peacekeepers to disarm Nagorno-Karabakh fighters - Azeri army spokesman.

https://t.me/EurasianChoice/29986
🇷🇺🇦🇲🙏NOTHING BUT GRATITUDE for Russian peacekeepers as ordinary people from Nagorno-Karabakh (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/28243) thank soldiers before setting off for Armenia.

Russian peacekeepers have delivered 125 tons of food for Nagorno-Karabakh civilians while over a thousand rifles, anti-tank and anti-air weapons have been handed over by Nagorno-Karabakh fighters (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/28211) as part of ceasefire proposed by Russian peacekeepers.
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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2023, 08:09:10 AM »
BigBrother Slav can own all of that...easier for me to not give a tinkers damn...
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« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2023, 09:16:25 AM »
So far it looks like there may be a peaceful ending. It sucks to be Armenian inside of the Azeris but they will be on the right side of the sod. 
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« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2023, 10:17:09 AM »


https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/09/25/further-blows-to-armenia-on-deck-state-dept-spokesman-admits-globohomo-looking-for-a-deal-on-zangezur-siunik-corridor-armenia-with-its-projection-of-we-will-not-fight-in-deep-troub/

***Further blows to Armenia on deck; State Dept spokesman admits GLOBOHOMO looking for a deal on Zangezur/Siunik corridor.***  Armenia (with its projection of “we will not fight”) in deep trouble as Azerbaijan leader, having taken Karabakh, skips no beat, talks publicly about unfairness of Soviet borders leaving Azerbaijan’s Nakhichevan exclave (which Turkey’s Erdogan just visited!) separated from the country by a small piece of Armenia. 

Amid campaign of anti-Russian propaganda in its state media, Armenian “Soros program graduate” government had assumed GLOBOHOMO will protect Armenia from “NATO ally” Turkey and its junior partner and military assistance project, Azerbaijan.  Yes, GLOBOHOMO intended to make of Armenia “another Georgia”, as U.S. ambassador to Armenia (appointed in February) was previously #2 at the Kiev embassy.  HOWEVER, intents have been overtaken by events. 

As many thousands of Armenians leave Karabakh every day, U.S. has said nothing beyond two short, very vague press releases.  ****MOREOVER, State Dept spokesman yesterday explicitly admitted that GLOBOHOMO is talking to Turkey about the land corridor, & looking to make Turkey happy.****  As I’ve written, this could involve Turk-Azeri control or “rights” to the land, while Armenia maintains “sovereignty.”  Reminder, GLOBOHOMO has a CRITICAL need for Turkish munitions (& weapons) for the Ukraine.  Turkey is **only** NATO country not yet disarmed by the war.  Turk-Azeris must press their advantage BEFORE the war concludes.


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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2023, 12:23:58 PM »
Armenia violated the first obvious rule of Fight Club - arm to the teeth...might-makes-right dipsticks!...if they steamrolled that pocket there wouldn't be anything left to piss and moan about as a result of the Soviet blunder...

But, whatever...not my problem...

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« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2023, 04:00:06 PM »

Samantha Power is in Armenia. I need more popcorn.
https://youtu.be/oWm1vtBKzdQ?t=1518

Azeris want $100 billion in compensation for the period of the "occupation" of N-K. If not paid then they demand a corridor.
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Re: Nagorno-Karabakh festivities firing up again
« Reply #59 on: September 27, 2023, 08:57:15 AM »
https://twitter.com/GeopoliticsW/status/1705044639051645080

Maybe she can visit where the Armenian's are being snuffed and suffer the same fate...

Probably the most useful thing that idiot could do...
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