Topic: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine

[Libertas]

She should STFU and stop making RU propaganda for them.
She says RU defeat would not be a bad thing because RU could be broken up into smaller nations.
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1792949951481168054

Sure, funny...especially since one could argue based on the facts that Russia is dividing up Ukraine, yes?  And no I don't need Putin's recitation of the Russo-centric view of Russian Slavic Hegemony as a reason, just an acknowledgement of the fact that Ukraine is being redivided...

[Libertas]

Not a POW video. Some guy IDs the 3 soldiers he was dropped off with in a trench  3 days ago after being grabbed. 3 dead. Him still alive.
He IDs them so their names will be known
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1792834414956716307

Again, how do we know this is or is not Rus propaganda?  Just because it's on the internet doesn't make it a fact...

[Libertas]

Other polls say very few Ukr want to return after the the war.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/98272

Only 56% of Ukrainians living in Germany, Poland and the Czech Republic are interested in events and the situation in Ukraine - KIIS survey

According to the study, 34% of Ukrainians directly indicated that they are not at all interested in information about Ukraine, and 11% chose the “difficult to answer” option.

Sociologists have come to the conclusion that Ukrainian refugees are gradually losing contact with Ukraine. The survey also indicates that half of the refugees refuse to return to Ukraine.

@Slavyangrad

Bad link for me.  But, not surprising people do not want to return to a war zone...or wherever not knowing what the map looks like for who is controlling what area and for how long until those who were wronged exact revenge and the cycle fires up again...

[patentlymn]

A real morale buster if true.
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/38311
??RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan to publish Ukraine's 'unwanted' POWs list

"I have complete lists of 500 Ukrainian prisoners of war, whom Kiev has been refusing to exchange for four months now. Zelensky has selected 38 people - Azov people and others - and is ready to take only them. Ukraine does not need the rest of the Ukrainian soldiers," Simonyan posted on her Telegram channel.

"The lists include full name and dates of birth. I'll publish it in full this evening. I think it will be interesting for wives, mothers and Ukrainian citizens in general to read it."

https://twitter.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1793277029913174405
🇷🇺🇺🇦 RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan to publish Ukraine's 'unwanted' POWs list

"I have complete lists of 500 Ukrainian prisoners of war, whom Kiev has been refusing to exchange for four months now. Zelensky has selected 38 people - Azov people and others - and is ready to take only them. Ukraine does not need the rest of the Ukrainian soldiers," Simonyan posted on her Telegram channel.

"The lists include full name and dates of birth. I'll publish it in full this evening. I think it will be interesting for wives, mothers and Ukrainian citizens in general to read it."

Could be a real propaganda Op too...I mean what are the Rus asking for?  Seems too one-sided...

I dunno. Here is the list. 500 names.
Early on in the SMO Kiev said they wanted to exchange POWs for the AZOV troops but not others, at least not then.
This was shortly after Mariupol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwar/comments/1cy80iu/a_huge_list_of_captured_ukrainian_soldiers_that/

[patentlymn]

Long and kinda heavy but good. I hd this on in AM. Paid attention to some.
Heavy hitters. Lots of international relations stuff.
The old world order is dying but the replacement has not yet been born. A dangerous time.
They have detailed timestamps.
Peace in the past could be obtained via peace talks and negotiations.
Now US only understands peace through war.


https://youtu.be/xsJsyY1VgPI?list=TLPQMjQwNTIwMjS69i-veEcMqA
The Dangerous Interregnum - Geoff Roberts, Glenn Diesen & Matthew Blackburn
...
30:36 Difference in strategic empathy
34:24 Discussing lack of strategic empathy in relation to Russia, China, and Iran
36:26 Peace is created by defeating adversaries, which is dangerous.
40:28 Increased strategic empathy due to Gaza crisis
42:25 Conflict didn't start in 2022, began 8 years earlier.
46:08 Understanding and empathizing with different perspectives
...
58:32 Western powers aim to restore unipolarity, while global powers advocate for multipolarity
1:00:26 The interregnum brings chaotic power dynamics and risky behaviors
1:04:18 India shifting towards balancing China, relinquishing non-aligned policy
1:06:16 Comparison of current America with 1970 Nixon era
1:10:14 Maintain balance of power through settlement and offshore balancing
1:12:04 Emphasizing the importance of diplomacy in legitimizing adversaries
...

[patentlymn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1czje0e/ru_pov_somewhere_in_the_donetsk_region_a/
RU POV: Somewhere in the Donetsk region a Ukrainian soldier contacted Russian forces in order to defect. He stole a Ukrainian tank and raised his gun up to identify himself.

[patentlymn]

On telegram I read that Russia hit a Home Depot equivalent in Khkov and killed 200 people inside

A different version showed all the apparent secondary explosions.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1794409541825630208
Looks like Russia hit the warehouse right into something explosive.

You can see two big secondary explosions with about a half second delay.

Since, 3 missiles never are shot to hit in the same spot so close to each other so fast, it gotta be some weaponry. After this explosion, little secondary explosions are also heard for a while.

Let’s see if I find better footage, to confirm that nothing flew in, here it’s not visible.

https://x.com/Wagnersfamily/status/1794392136680693838
You can hear ammo detonating

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1794365945617731824

[patentlymn]

Interesting theory. I cannot find the original yet.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1792941276494504159
🇺🇦🇪🇺  What is the plan for Ukraine?

“It is clearly not about saving the lives of Ukrainian men so that they can rebuild the country after this is all over.

It will become empty there and who will they bring in to restore Ukraine?

I’ll say it straight, Ukraine will become the first African country in Europe already in the next 10-15 years, if everything goes as it is going.“

— British journalist Rahim Kassam