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Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« on: January 19, 2023, 12:06:06 PM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/treasury-begins-using-extraordinary-measures-debt-ceiling-hit-yellen-tells-congress

Pubbies suck at playing chicken...and if ever there was a time for it...it is now...

Illegitimate POS FJB won't negotiate, fine...reap what you sowed!
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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2023, 12:19:16 PM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/theyre-just-unreasonable-debt-ceiling-talks-collapse-republicans-abruptly-walk-out

Already said it but I will say it again...if they are ever to be taken seriously, they need to exercise their primary power - the purse.

You cave to this thugs again, nobody will ever respect you.

No negotiation, no new bill...

The HFC is right...

https://archive.ph/VU4TB#selection-1667.11-1667.83

...let the Senate take up the bill already passed, screw them...let them be the disingenuous uncooperative miscreants.

Any "shutdown" will be of the non-material variety as per usual...the heart of government will go on through creative accounting and under the table shenanigans...and if The Puppet tries something unconstitutional, sue the corrupt regime.

Sadly for the nation, their usual play is to roll over...
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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2023, 08:52:57 AM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/debt-ceiling-negotiations-crumble-mccarthy-and-biden-hold-sunday-call-impasse-intensifies

The Kenyan probably wouldn't mind if his puppet went down in flames over this...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-mccarthy-meet-monday-after-debt-ceiling-deal-suffers-weekend-setbacks

...I can totally see these lunatics pressing this insane and Unconstitutional 14th Amendment crap as Article I Section 7 trumps all - "All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives"

...so knock off the BS you commie rat bastards!

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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2023, 08:58:59 AM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/breakthrough-debt-deal-would-raise-limit-cap-spending-two-years-will-freedom-caucus

Perhaps not a total capitulation...more like a general retreat...FJB/Marxists still getting more than we are...

No brains, no balls...

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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2023, 11:26:57 AM »
The ten year "agreements" are all BS anyway, but the two year would actually have a chance of holding.

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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2023, 08:46:31 AM »
Still looks sketchy...with sketchy details...how about releasing the details?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/graham-criticizes-defense-spending-debt-ceiling-deal-biggest-winner-biden-defense-budget

Love how UniParty tools in Pubbies ranks are only half right at best...and what they are wrong about is so totally wrong...

Communist China does pose a clear and existential danger to the Pacific Rim nations...and it is not just their increased Naval power, its their seizure of other nations territory, the military bases it creates using artificial islands if necessary, its expanded air force and strategic nuclear arsenal...its all of that...

But this -  "End the war on favorable terms in Ukraine, you’ll make China less likely to invade Taiwan."  - is total bullsh*t.  The Chi-Com's will do whatever they want regardless of what happens in the Ukraine sh*tshow.  And the US would be in a better moral position leaving Ukraine to the Euro's to solve and leading in the Pacific Rim...but as always the imbeciles have it backwards and are making immoral links to the Ukraine sh*tshow.

As for the debt kabuki...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/hard-pass-heres-whats-debt-ceiling-deal-republicans-are-about-nuke

How do we not know we got stabbed in the back again?

And apparently the concept of only imbeciles can call lower growth a cut is alive and well in Pubbieland...

I mean who cannot love unenforceable appropriation targets and only about a 20% rollback of the DemoCommie 87k armed IRS thug provision from the corrupt 117th Congress treachery?

DemComs calling the concessions "modest"?

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/there-are-99-pages-details-debt-ceiling-deal-and-big-trap-republicans

The speeding up of eco-nut reviews looks totally crap to me...those provisions should be stripped!  How about limits on Fed review instead, jackasses?!

And the open border insanity and strain on economy & surging crime rages on untouched!

Total sh*t deal to me!

Bet gutless scum goes for it...

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/there-are-99-pages-details-debt-ceiling-deal-and-big-trap-republicans

Link above includes a link to full

Y'all feel like "winners"?

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H/T's-ZH

Appears some are as PO'd as most of We The People...

The Freedom Caucus has left open the possibility of filing a motion to vacate McCarthy's chair if he pushes the deal through.
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McCarthy's team thinks they can avoid disaster at today's House Rules Committee at 3pm ET today, however Reps. Chip Roy (R-TX), Ralph Norman (R-SC), and Thomas Massie (R-KY) - three conservatives who serve on the panel - may not vote for the rule which allows the Fiscal Responsibility Act to come to the floor, Punchbowl News reports.

All three have expressed reservations about the bill - however Massie may still back the rule, making him the 'key figure in today's drama,' according to Punchbowl. Of note, there are nine Republicans and four Democrats on the panel - so if Roy and Norman vote 'no' then Massie needs to vote 'yes' for the bill to survive.

Keep in mind this fascinating exchange Massie had with reporters four months ago. Our friend Erik Wasson of Bloomberg asked the Kentucky Republican if he would be “a firewall” on the Rules Committee to make sure a clean debt-limit increase never made it onto the floor. Here’s Massie:

“Over the past 10 years, I’ve been an advocate of regular order and trying to make things work, try to make this place work right. And I would be reluctant to try to use the Rules Committee to achieve a legislative outcome, particularly if it doesn’t represent a large majority of our caucus.

“So I don’t ever intend to use my position on there to hold somebody hostage or hold legislation hostage.” -Punchbowl

Meanwhile, House Freedom Caucus Chair Scott Perry (R-PA) is holding a press conference today too.

Here's the schedule of events.

12:00ET - The conservative hard-liners in the House Freedom Caucus will hold a news conference outside the Capitol to rally opposition to the deal

15:00ET - The House Rules Committee will meet to prepare the bill for floor action.

18:30ET - The House will hold votes on unrelated bills, giving whips in both parties their first chance to count votes in person.

19:30ET - House Republican leaders will host a closed-door conference meeting, where they will discuss the debt deal. GOP leadership feels that the preliminary CBO score - $2.1 trillion in savings over the six-year life of the included caps - is something they can get behind. That said, after two years, the remaining four years of caps can be waived.

TOMORROW •    09:00ET - House Democrats will meet in a closed-door caucus meeting where they will hear from White House officials.

McCarthy's plan will be to argue that no other bill can save the federal government as much money as the current package, and that Biden never wanted to negotiate in the first place.

Assuming the legislation makes it to the floor, "it's all about the math," reports Fox News' Chad Pergram, who one GOP source said things are "not that great right now."
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Pergram was told that there are quite a few undecided votes, but that Republicans should be able to score well over a majority of their majority. That said, fewer Republicans 'yes' votes of course means that Democrats will need to make up the difference - which is a big if.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/not-great-right-now-mccarthy-debt-deal-votes-question-desantis-slams-totally-inadequate

McCarthy might force it through with Massie's Rules Committee help and the help of DemoCommies...but it may end his reign as Speaker...

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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2023, 11:20:00 AM »
How can voting totals like these NOT indicate cahoots with Demonscats?



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/debt-deal-inches-towards-senate-mcconnell-prepares-battle-conservative-holdouts

So, only 29 voted against the rule shenanigans...71 against the bill...what did the 42 like about the fricken rule?  And what did the vast majority of Demoscats (77.46%) like so much about the bill?

And Skippy wants a debt commission? 

These are ALL signs of betrayal and collusion!

Any calls to vacate the chair yet?  Hello?

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Can't wait to see the filthy corrupt Senate run their usual UniParty tricks...

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/stockman-slams-speaker-mccarthys-rotten-deal

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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2023, 12:26:34 PM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/im-ready-turf-you-more-steve-bannon-fires/

Good luck with that...will have the corrupt Ronna Romney McDaniel's RNC, the UniParty cabal and the DeepState and their presstitute allies to run interference...
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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2023, 08:17:41 AM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/senate-rubber-stamps-debt-ceiling-band-aid-biden-sign-law-soon-possible

We got nothing out of this...

Correction, we got something - we got screwed!

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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2023, 09:38:29 AM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/senate-rubber-stamps-debt-ceiling-band-aid-biden-sign-law-soon-possible

We got nothing out of this...

Correction, we got something - we got screwed!

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'Zack right.  And with various and sundry "Conservatives" out there telling us otherwise, as though we can't tell a silk purse from a sow's ear.
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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2023, 10:38:12 AM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/senate-rubber-stamps-debt-ceiling-band-aid-biden-sign-law-soon-possible

We got nothing out of this...

Correction, we got something - we got screwed!

 ::cussing::

'Zack right.  And with various and sundry "Conservatives" out there telling us otherwise, as though we can't tell a silk purse from a sow's ear.

Only thing I am somewhat surprised at (and more disappointed and disgusted in) is how increasingly unlikely this is going to end well...
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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2023, 12:11:38 PM »
H/T-WZ
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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2023, 11:54:23 AM »
"I feel blindsided," McCarthy told reporters, apparently oblivious to the fact that breaking the very promises that got him elected Speaker might have consequences.

Yeah?  Suck it up, Buttercup!  More to come!  You stabbed us ALL in the back with your debt ceiling joke the Demoscats are doing victory laps over, you deluded clown!

“I will listen to them. I will respect them all. But at the end of the day, we’ve got to come together as one,” he said.

The mindless bleating of the Pubbie contaminated with terminal Cuckness!  Yap all you want, I call the shots you get in lockstep!  That's his message.

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A Capitol Hill staffer familiar with GOP leadership stated that no coercive tactics originated from McCarthy.

That's what lockstep minions are for.

Anybody ask GOP Whip Tom Emmer?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chaos-mccarthy-throws-tantrum-cancels-votes-rest-week-after-getting-schlonged-freedom

Sh!t happens...and it can flow any direction.
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Re: Full-frontal Kabuki - AKA the so-called "debt ceiling" debate
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2023, 12:29:38 PM »
H/T-CTH
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