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In my email - Pistol Permits Dead
« on: March 29, 2023, 05:46:27 PM »
Historic gun rights victory in Raleigh

Grass Roots North Carolina and gun rights supporters made history today. Senate Bill 41 cleared its final hurdle and will become law after both chambers of the North Carolina General Assembly voted to override Governor Roy Cooper’s veto. SB 41 is the first override of a Cooper veto since 2018 and the first-ever override of a vetoed gun bill in North Carolina.

SB 41 repeals North Carolina’s Jim Crow-era pistol purchase permit law and closes the loophole under which concealed carry has been prohibited in churches which sponsor schools, giving those churches the same protections that most NC churches have enjoyed since 1995.

Yesterday, SB 41 cleared the NC Senate in a party line vote of 30-19, giving Republicans the expected 6/10 supermajority to override Cooper’s veto.

The NC House then fast-tracked the bill, taking it up as its first order of business this morning. Clearly, Speaker Tim Moore was in no mood to permit grandstanding by anti-gun Democrats as Rules Chair Rep. Destin Hall immediately offered a motion to “move the previous question,” a procedural maneuver that closes all debate and forces an immediate vote on the bill. With all House Republicans voting for the bill, SB 41 passed the House by a vote of 71-45, narrowly exceeding the necessary 6/10 supermajority.

It should be noted that Rep. Michael Wray (D- Halifax, Northampton, Warren), who was a co-sponsor of a similar bill and had voted for SB 41 the first time, apparently did not vote. It is not clear whether that was due to a deal with Republicans, or whether he sold out Second Amendment supporters. However, Rep. Shelly Willingham (D-Bertie, Edgecombe, Martin), who voted for SB 41 last time, reneged on his public statement that he would not change his position on the override. By voting “no” on the SB 41 override, he clearly betrayed gun rights supporters. Also unknown as of this writing is whether the other three Democrats who did not vote were present in the chamber.

GRNC president Paul Valone said:

“Second amendment supporters made history today. In passing Senate Bill 41, we achieved the first override of anti-freedom Governor Roy Cooper’s many vetoes since 2018, and the first-ever override for a gun bill in North Carolina. Grass Roots North Carolina promised to deliver defeat to Cooper’s door, and we delivered on that promise.

“Second Amendment advocates owe thanks to Senate President Pro Tem Phil Berger, Speaker Tim Moore, Rules Chair Destin Hall; sponsors Sens. Danny Britt, Warren Daniel, Jim Perry; and all of the Republican legislators who voted for and supported SB 41 and similar bills. I encourage leadership to leverage this success by joining twenty-five other states in passing constitutional carry.

“I also thank the many volunteers and supporters Grass Roots North Carolina who made this victory possible by contacting legislators and walking the halls of the legislature.”

Founded in 1994, Grass Roots North Carolina is an all-volunteer 501(c)(4) organization dedicated to preserving individual liberties guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights with emphasis on the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

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Re: In my email - Pistol Permits Dead
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2023, 06:11:09 AM »
 ::pullhair:: I knew we should have moved there 30 years ago.

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Re: In my email - Pistol Permits Dead
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2023, 08:58:35 AM »
So, NC is now a "shall issue" permit state without restrictions as to where?  Makes sense if they think Constitutional Carry is now possible...it would just remove the permit process.
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Re: In my email - Pistol Permits Dead
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2023, 09:12:17 AM »
So, NC is now a "shall issue" permit state without restrictions as to where?  Makes sense if they think Constitutional Carry is now possible...it would just remove the permit process.

Has naught to do with carrying; we already have Constitutional Carry.  **

What is repealed is the law requiring permits to be bought from one's County Sheriff for the purpose of acquiring a handgun; never required for long guns.  This was handed to the gunshop or FFL and kept on record. 

Now, one just has a NICS check done at the point of purchase.

** ETA:  Need to clarify the Constitutional Carry point.  One can legally carry openly; a CCW is needed to carry concealed.  (Which annoys me to no end, however, I imagine GrassRoots North Carolina will get to that as well.)
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Re: In my email - Pistol Permits Dead
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2023, 10:18:35 AM »
So, NC is now a "shall issue" permit state without restrictions as to where?  Makes sense if they think Constitutional Carry is now possible...it would just remove the permit process.

Has naught to do with carrying; we already have Constitutional Carry.  **

What is repealed is the law requiring permits to be bought from one's County Sheriff for the purpose of acquiring a handgun; never required for long guns.  This was handed to the gunshop or FFL and kept on record. 

Now, one just has a NICS check done at the point of purchase.

** ETA:  Need to clarify the Constitutional Carry point.  One can legally carry openly; a CCW is needed to carry concealed.  (Which annoys me to no end, however, I imagine GrassRoots North Carolina will get to that as well.)

Ahh, OK.  Yeah, the permit thing annoys me too...but the NICS too since we know they are retaining records...

Every state s/b default Constitutional Carry open/concealed anyway as the Founders intended!
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Re: In my email - Pistol Permits Dead
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2023, 10:21:16 AM »
H/T-WRSA@GAB

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Re: In my email - Pistol Permits Dead
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2023, 12:13:50 PM »
When I was attending training at No.Telcom in Raliegh early 90's I went to a gun show @NCST campus. Came back to Embassy Suites with an SKS and Mossberg 410 shortie. I drove the venders crazy with my dumb from NJ questions ::whatgives::

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Re: In my email - Pistol Permits Dead
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2023, 02:36:56 PM »
H/T-WRSA@GAB

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ABSOLUTELY!!

Paul, I had an uncle living in NJ who promised me his handgun when he passed.  Well, he passed a couple-three years ago and his son, my cousin, living in Virginia at the time, went up to settle Uncle's affairs.  He'd been born and raised in NJ and boy! talk about ignorant about anything gun related there.  He eventually managed, with some advice from us, to get the gun here.
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Re: In my email - Pistol Permits Dead
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2023, 04:11:56 PM »
Time was many moons ago I could go to my local Chief, get the pistol permit and go that afternoon and buy it. Always needed a firearms permit tho even for long guns.