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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #180 on: June 25, 2012, 11:08:52 AM »
It would push this into next year's SCOTUS session. Again. So on the one hand I can see it being deferred until someone has suffered actual harm but on the other hand I can see the SCOTUS not wanting to go through this mess again...why bother with a dry run this year?

SCOTUS is the most respected branch of government if they kick this down the road to next year much frustration that has been cast to the other two will be intensified and redirected to them. They should know this.


Well, there are 4 1/2 that appear to not care.
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #181 on: June 25, 2012, 11:20:16 AM »
The Constitution obligates the Federal government to guarantee a republican form of government to all the states.  Yet the USSC is cool with the Feds' policy of willfully allowing border states to be inundated with illegal immigrants who burden their criminal, education, and health systems to the breaking point.

I just wish the cultural and social balkanization would hurry up and lead to physical, political balkanization.
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #182 on: June 25, 2012, 11:20:25 AM »
The idiots at MSNBC are spinning the AZ immigration decision as a "possible" win for O'Bongo. The mental gymnastics are painful to watch...painful in that they are decidedly lacking in mental agility and strength.
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #183 on: June 25, 2012, 11:22:38 AM »
Another 5-4 ruling.

Get used to seeing that number.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SUPREME_COURT_CAMPAIGN_FINANCE_MONTANA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-06-25-10-07-37

Citizens United ruling applies to state campaign finance laws also.
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #184 on: June 25, 2012, 11:25:50 AM »
Huffington Post headline:

"AZ Immigration Law Gutted"

Color me "shocked."

And from their comments:

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HP/LOL calls it "gutted".
I call it "Meat, Potatoes and Gravy" made it while the broccoli and greens got cut.

That, of course, would be Red Meat !!!
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #185 on: June 25, 2012, 11:37:00 AM »
Not surprising.

Dear Lord I pray the Supremes are toying with these punks!

It would be sweet if ObamaCare went down in total.  Most likely the Supreme's want to hold it so they can safely get out of town before the big tamale hits the wires.

Instilled with great confidence I am not.

But a pleasant surprise would be nice.
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #186 on: June 25, 2012, 11:41:22 AM »
DailyKos scribblers are predictably apoplectic about the AZ immigration law being upheld on its major point. One of the things not being discussed is that the decision to uphold the police immigration status checks was apparently a unanimous decision. Darned inconvenient facts.
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #187 on: June 25, 2012, 11:48:02 AM »
O'Bongo ran past reporters without answering any questions as he boarded Air Force One today...that's not exactly new behavior for the nation's top narcissist but you can bet that he would have been all over everywhere had the AZ ruling truly gone in his favor.
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #188 on: June 25, 2012, 11:49:43 AM »
DailyKos scribblers are predictably apoplectic about the AZ immigration law being upheld on its major point. One of the things not being discussed is that the decision to uphold the police immigration status checks was apparently a unanimous decision. Darned inconvenient facts.

In a way, it is not too surprising that the one part of the AZ immigration law that SCOTUS approves of unanimously is the part that gives the widest latitude to law enforcement.

Just noticing.
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #189 on: June 25, 2012, 11:50:57 AM »
DailyKos offers this analysis of Romney's post SCOTUS announcement:

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Here's a sentence-by-sentence analysis of his statement:

1. Obama sucks.
2. Obama sucks.
3. Obama sucks.
4. SB1070 was Arizona's duty and responsibility because Obama sucks.
5. Obama sucks.
6. Obama sucks.

They are capable of cogent thought. Who knew?
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #190 on: June 25, 2012, 11:52:55 AM »
As long as they uderstand Obama sucks, I guess that's something.

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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #191 on: June 25, 2012, 12:01:51 PM »
Dingus in Chief's official response to the AZ immigration law decision:

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I am pleased that the Supreme Court has struck down key provisions of Arizona's immigration law. What this decision makes unmistakably clear is that Congress must act on comprehensive immigration reform. A patchwork of state laws is not a solution to our broken immigration system – it’s part of the problem.

At the same time, I remain concerned about the practical impact of the remaining provision of the Arizona law that requires local law enforcement officials to check the immigration status of anyone they even suspect to be here illegally. I agree with the Court that individuals cannot be detained solely to verify their immigration status. No American should ever live under a cloud of suspicion just because of what they look like. Going forward, we must ensure that Arizona law enforcement officials do not enforce this law in a manner that undermines the civil rights of Americans, as the Court’s decision recognizes. Furthermore, we will continue to enforce our immigration laws by focusing on our most important priorities like border security and criminals who endanger our communities, and not, for example, students who earn their education – which is why the Department of Homeland Security announced earlier this month that it will lift the shadow of deportation from young people who were brought to the United States as children through no fault of their own.

I will work with anyone in Congress who’s willing to make progress on comprehensive immigration reform that addresses our economic needs and security needs, and upholds our tradition as a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. And in the meantime, we will continue to use every federal resource to protect the safety and civil rights of all Americans, and treat all our people with dignity and respect. We can solve these challenges not in spite of our most cherished values – but because of them. What makes us American is not a question of what we look like or what our names are. What makes us American is our shared belief in the enduring promise of this country – and our shared responsibility to leave it more generous and more hopeful than we found it.

Translation:

"I am totally screwed and my only hope for re-election is to somehow get everyone's attention focused anywhere but on the economy. So you Republicans please lose your minds for the next few months and let's get going on comprehensive immigration reform. Oh, and I won the immigration debate anyway just in case you were keeping score."
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #192 on: June 25, 2012, 02:18:11 PM »
The Court refused to uphold the requirement of the carrying of one's registration papers?   That's a freakin' Federal rule as well, so WTF?!
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #193 on: June 25, 2012, 02:31:27 PM »
Big Sis doubles Down.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/25/homeland-security-suspends-immigration-agreements-/

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Administration officials, speaking on condition they not be named, told reporters they expect to see an increase in the number of calls they get from Arizona police — but that won’t change President Obama’s decision to limit whom the government actually tries to detain and deport.

“We will not be issuing detainers on individuals unless they clearly meet our defined priorities,” one official said in a telephone briefing.

I think when conservatives are back in charge we should "suspend" any laws dealing with any crime where a registered Democrat is the victim. Theft, rape and murder of Democrats, while still technically illegal, just shouldn't be prosecuted, and the  Federal DOJ and any State DOJs we control should announce that fact. And if any F'ing Democrats complain,  their names and addresses should be posted. After all, the fewer democrats there are, the more the GOP will gain in an election. And obviously the Dems feel that suspending laws for political gain is a fine idea.


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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #194 on: June 25, 2012, 02:44:19 PM »
Big Sis doubles Down.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/25/homeland-security-suspends-immigration-agreements-/

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Administration officials, speaking on condition they not be named, told reporters they expect to see an increase in the number of calls they get from Arizona police — but that won’t change President Obama’s decision to limit whom the government actually tries to detain and deport.

“We will not be issuing detainers on individuals unless they clearly meet our defined priorities,” one official said in a telephone briefing.

I think when conservatives are back in charge we should "suspend" any laws dealing with any crime where a registered Democrat is the victim. Theft, rape and murder of Democrats, while still technically illegal, just shouldn't be prosecuted, and the  Federal DOJ and any State DOJs we control should announce that fact. And if any F'ing Democrats complain,  their names and addresses should be posted. After all, the fewer democrats there are, the more the GOP will gain in an election. And obviously the Dems feel that suspending laws for political gain is a fine idea.



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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #195 on: June 25, 2012, 03:20:18 PM »
Big Sis doubles Down.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/25/homeland-security-suspends-immigration-agreements-/

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Administration officials, speaking on condition they not be named, told reporters they expect to see an increase in the number of calls they get from Arizona police — but that won’t change President Obama’s decision to limit whom the government actually tries to detain and deport.

“We will not be issuing detainers on individuals unless they clearly meet our defined priorities,” one official said in a telephone briefing.

I think when conservatives are back in charge we should "suspend" any laws dealing with any crime where a registered Democrat is the victim. Theft, rape and murder of Democrats, while still technically illegal, just shouldn't be prosecuted, and the  Federal DOJ and any State DOJs we control should announce that fact. And if any F'ing Democrats complain,  their names and addresses should be posted. After all, the fewer democrats there are, the more the GOP will gain in an election. And obviously the Dems feel that suspending laws for political gain is a fine idea.



So the obummer administration has effectively "sanctioned" Arizona. Wow. Lets see.....Iran, Libya, Arizona.....Oh sorry, we really don't sanction the first two.

We'll never treat dems as they have treated us....And i'm not sure we should. I want to. I really do. I'll take solice, one day, I won't have to endure antics by dems.
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #196 on: June 25, 2012, 04:12:39 PM »
I want to treat them worse. Way worse. That is my sinful nature.
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #197 on: June 25, 2012, 06:41:31 PM »
I want to treat them worse. Way worse. That is my sinful nature.

I dispise the way dems use the general religious/ moral nature of conservatives as, literally, a weapon, while living thier lives with little values, morals, ethics or principle.

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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #198 on: June 25, 2012, 07:18:05 PM »
Alinsky 101.
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Re: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« Reply #199 on: June 25, 2012, 07:19:37 PM »
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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