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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2011, 11:48:19 AM »
And now your daily dose of liberal "reality"




Anybody think the artist has spent even one minute in that sh*thole?
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2011, 11:53:15 AM »
Anybody think the artist has spent even one minute in that sh*thole?

Um, have you?
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2011, 12:23:59 PM »
Anybody think the artist has spent even one minute in that sh*thole?

Um, have you?



Sorry, no, I came factory equipped with a brain.

Which means that among many other useful tasks I can draw a conclusion based on observation, known history and logic.

Others, apparently, are sadly lacking in this basic facility. (The artist may well have been to this pus pocket and is simply lying (libs do that) about it.)

So, no, I need not personally experience filth and squalor in the name of socialist propaganda in order to realize the utter ridiculousness of that particular situation. I remember the sixties quite well.

Here is someone who may or may not come to the same conclusion the hard way:


She abandoned her husband and children for this people's paradise. The word is that she is shacking up with total strangers so perhaps she will get to experience STD's up close and personal, too.

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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2011, 12:31:05 PM »
OK, trapeze, you're admitting that you're getting your information second- or third-hand, same as me.

Opinions are like assholes.  Everybody has one. 

Carry on.
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2011, 12:31:28 PM »
This, too, from GatewayPundit sums up the OWS colostomy-bag-in-a-park quite nicely:

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Liberal thought leader Matthew Yglesias writes today, “The Occupy Wall Street is a rational response to a system that’s failed.”

Well, except for the racism, attacking police, and the rapes, the trash, the clueless morons, the sex & drugs, the pervs exposing themselves to children, desecrating the flag & war memorials, embracing communism, getting Nazi endorsements, the anti-Semitism, the spitting on people, the mindless chanting, promoting sexual perversions, faking injuries, abusing local business owners, demanding free stuff, the feet sniffers and drinking urine,… It’s completely rational.

Oh, yeah...give me some of that. Or go live in the chimpanzee exhibit at the zoo for a few days. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2011, 12:35:24 PM »
Gateway Pundit?  Please.  That's like the Weekly World News of conservative blogs.
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2011, 12:49:26 PM »
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Well, except for the racism, attacking police, and the rapes, the trash, the clueless morons, the sex & drugs, the pervs exposing themselves to children, desecrating the flag & war memorials, embracing communism, getting Nazi endorsements, the anti-Semitism, the spitting on people, the mindless chanting, promoting sexual perversions, faking injuries, abusing local business owners, demanding free stuff, the feet sniffers and drinking urine,… It’s completely rational.

Checking at the "Weekly World News of conservative blogs", I see that almost every word in that paragraph is a link to other sources, and Yglesias is linked from The New Republic, in other words, an aggregation.

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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2011, 12:55:27 PM »
OK, trapeze, you're admitting that you're getting your information second- or third-hand, same as me.

Opinions are like assholes.  Everybody has one.  

Carry on.

Admitting? You say that like it's a bad thing.

No, I'm quite proud of having the intellectual wherewithal to not go anywhere near the place.  

Come to think of it, I've never walked through any of our nation's burned out urban crime zones with a sign on my back that says, "I'm unarmed and carrying a big bag of money! What are you going to do about it?" But using your line of thinking I would have to do so in order to offer a qualified  opinion on crime.

To say that one's opinion on OWS is somehow lacking because they haven't gotten down in the muck and experienced it up close and personal is shallow. Liberals use that technique all the time. They will say that your opinion on the war is invalid unless you have been in the military and served in combat in the infantry. They will say that your opinion on anything affecting, say, women is invalid unless you are a woman and a liberal woman at that. They have said that Herman Cain isn't a bonafide black man (whatever that is) because he did not personally participate in any of the civil rights demonstrations during the sixties. It goes on and on and on.

Why adopt such an absurd argument in regard to OWS?

We have eyes. We have ears. And those of us old enough to remember the sixties have memories.

There is nothing new under the sun. A rose by a different name will smell as sweet. Same sh*t, different day. A liberal is a liberal. A socialist is a socialist. A squalid hippy farm is a squalid hippy farm.

You go there. Knock yourself out. Rub elbows with the Marxists, Nazis, anti-semites, SEIU thugs, anarchists, criminals and the mentally ill. Let me know how it was. Then your opinion will truly be valid or something.



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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2011, 12:59:48 PM »
In response to this current line of discussion (ie, people can't get a feel for the depravity going on within the sphere of the OWS group), I have bookmarks to very similar stories/video from NBC, ABC, Washington Post, New York Times, Boston Herald, American Thinker, Pajamas Media, You Tube, Time and Hot Air - and that isn't even all of the various media outlets I have drawn information from concerning this spectacle (those I've listed amount to about 2/3 of the bookmarked sources I have here). Am I to conclude that unless I physically go to New York and see this depravity first hand rather than watching a video of some guy crapping on a cop car or reading the accounts of residents of the area complaining to their local politicians about protestors taking dumps on their front steps, that I can not have an accurate view of what's going on?

Because all these bookmarks I have here are pretty specific about this garbage and many of them have corresponding video, etc. It seems pretty truthful and damning to me.

Am I wrong in this?
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2011, 01:05:15 PM »
Gateway Pundit?  Please.  That's like the Weekly World News of conservative blogs.

Oh, wait...are you offering an opinion on GatewayPundit? Do you know Jim Hoft? Have you met him? Have you ever operated a conservative blog site of the size and reach of Hoft's? Do you have objective experience ranking and rating conservative blogs?

Using your line of reasoning you must either take Hoft's posts at face value or run out there and personally validate or invalidate everything posted there in order to have a valid opinion about them. Merely reading them, checking the links, using your own personal experience as a comparative yard stick, etc. is worthless.

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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2011, 01:18:56 PM »
Am I to conclude that unless I physically go to New York and see this depravity first hand rather than watching a video of some guy crapping on a cop car or reading the accounts of residents of the area complaining to their local politicians about protestors taking dumps on their front steps, that I can not have an accurate view of what's going on?

Because all these bookmarks I have here are pretty specific about this garbage and many of them have corresponding video, etc. It seems pretty truthful and damning to me.

Am I wrong in this?

No, according to rickl your opinion on this (and everything else you haven't personally experienced) isn't valid. It isn't authentic or something.

Logic and reason are not on equal footing with personal experience.

"Suspension of disbelief" is what allows people to watch a magic performance and enjoy it. "True suspension of disbelief" is what rickl is asking me to go along with in regard to the OWS freak show. Disregard what you are seeing, forget about everything that you saw in the sixties, ignore what you know about Marxists, socialists and community organizers because all of that is meaningless unless you are actually there and personally smelling the stench of the hippies.

Sorry, but "check your brain at the door" is not a lifestyle choice that I find appealing.
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2011, 01:38:48 PM »
I'm just wondering because I thought that I'd been being pretty open-minded about all this. I usually try not to form a solid opinion one way or another concerning something that I haven't personally witnessed until I can verify it from a couple different sources (and preferably ones that are reputable). But if I've been going about this all wrong I guess it'd be good to be set straight now so I can stop pouring over the news from various media outlets each day...would sure save me a bunch of time and effort!
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2011, 02:26:39 PM »
Hippie wisdom: Casting turds before morons...

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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2011, 02:53:02 PM »
Prescient. All that's missing from this scene is the drumming and chanting...


They do have the dogma and the wallowing in filth part down, though. Foot sniffing, thievery and rape to follow.
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2011, 04:08:37 PM »
If I understand these idiots (arguably an exercise in futility), they want to do nothing and have other people supply all of their needs.

I would be perfectly okay with herding them all into one of the wilderness areas, putting a very big wall around it and then shipping in food and water. Let them have their utopia. But then don't let them out. Put it on pay-per-view. It would be illustrative.

Or stick a couple of dozen of them into that bio-dome place in Arizona. Again, provide them with all of the food and water they need and watch what happens in their perfect workless society.

Or put them on an island. I wish Australia wasn't already taken. Madagascar would work.
They already occupy NY and look at it, small minority works, the rest live off the wealth because they deem entitled to. Can't live with each other, they commit all kinds of hiddeous crimes including rape and murder towards on another.
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2011, 04:40:08 PM »
If I understand these idiots (arguably an exercise in futility), they want to do nothing and have other people supply all of their needs.

I would be perfectly okay with herding them all into one of the wilderness areas, putting a very big wall around it and then shipping in food and water. Let them have their utopia. But then don't let them out. Put it on pay-per-view. It would be illustrative.

Or stick a couple of dozen of them into that bio-dome place in Arizona. Again, provide them with all of the food and water they need and watch what happens in their perfect workless society.

Or put them on an island. I wish Australia wasn't already taken. Madagascar would work.
They already occupy NY and look at it, small minority works, the rest live off the wealth because they deem entitled to. Can't live with each other, they commit all kinds of hiddeous crimes including rape and murder towards on another.

That's why I'm advocating containment. It deals with the problem without that whole messy ethnic cleansing thing that the left would use on the right if given half a chance. Hey, if these creeps were in the majority I would take exile in a heartbeat. We would build a capitalist free market system and kick their ass in a generation. Problem is that they know it and they would just kill us instead. Communist societies have demonstrated a very dim view of dissent throughout history.
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2011, 12:15:24 AM »
Just for fun, here's one more from the Weekly World News of conservative blogs:

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Health Expert: #OWS Dump Is Breeding Ground For Rats

A New York City health expert says besides the smell of urine and the defecating on porches, the Occupy Wall Street dump is a breeding ground for rats.

The New York Post reported:

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Close this pigpen!

Filth-ridden Zuccotti Park is a breeding ground for bacterial infection loaded with potential health-code violations that pose a major risk to the public, an expert who inspected the area warned.

It’s like Walmart for rats,’’ Wayne Yon, an expert on city health regulations, said yesterday.

“There’s a lack of sanitation, a lack of controls for hot and cold water,” Yon said. He saw at least 15 violations of the city’s health code — the type that would easily shut down a food establishment.

He noted the lack of lavatory facilities, as neighbors repeatedly complain about protesters defecating in the area and the stench of urine.
Yon also pointed to unsanitary conditions in wash bins for cleaning food utensils.

“It looks extraordinarily dirty, and [the bin] should be changed once it starts to get dirty,” said Yon, who works for EHA Consulting Group Inc. Then he pointed to a pigeon in a tree right above where the protesters were washing dishes.

“There’s no overhead coverings. Pigeons are basically vermin,” Yon said.

Yup. They’re just like the tea party.

Hippies. Can't live with 'em. Can't shoot 'em.

(But I understand that water cannons are okay.)

*the GatewayPundit comments:

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#1    October 22, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Mark1957 commented:

” Pigeons are basically Vermin.”

So are hippies.

What can I say? A man after my own heart.

And then there's this one:

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#25    October 22, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Hacker 69 commented:

Box to sleep in 50¢, deficating on public property $0.00, clothes stolen from goodwill box $0.00, piecrings and tats, $200.00, cheap marajuana cigarette $1.00. Having human debris take down the whole democrat party in one fell swoop….

Priceless

Or this:

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Good. Let them wallow in their own filth. Self serving accommodations.

“Hippies. All they do is smoke pot and smell bad”.

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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2011, 01:04:48 AM »
This is sort of like eating Lays potato chips, it's hard to stop with just one. I found this quote and it is indeed profound:

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The Occupy movement — with its spiritual roots in the thumb-sucking support group industry –  has taken that a step further to try to be truly leaderless. But it’s a cargo cult of leaderlessness, as if competing with the tea parties to be the most tea partiesque.

With a focus on consensus, one group even ostracized their organizer for attempting to lead them. But that may be simply a symptom of impending doom, like advertising for homeless to join and then discovering that some homeless people are that way because no one else wants them around, either.

That's pretty damned profound...comparing the OWS hippies to South Sea savages' cargo cults. Makes absolute total sense.
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2011, 02:09:58 AM »
Yippee ki yay! Muslims get in on the action as CAIR joins the OWS SmellFest:



And in other "morons at Zucotti Park" news, smelly hippies meet clueless idiot:



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McCain, who writes for the Daily Beast, tweeted a photo of herself from the scene and said she “had some interesting conversations, heard some really sad stories. Column soon to follow...”

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I went down to #OccupyWallstreet to hear their side of the story and get research for my column. Don't understand what the big deal is.

Totally.
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Re: Occupy Animal Farm: Some occupiers are more equal than others
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2011, 02:36:57 AM »
Yes, these certainly are reasonable and intelligent people...the kind you would want hanging out around your house, eyeing your kids, urinating on your lawn at 3:14 a.m. you know, regular ordinary peeps...

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[Dylan] Spoelstra, who had been ticketed by the NYPD for public urination at 3:14 a.m., told his protestor pals that he was going to climb the bright red artwork known as “Joie de Vivre” on Broadway on the west side of Zuccotti Park. Shortly before 6 a.m., after eyeing the ring of cops standing nearby for several minutes, he dashed across the street and clambered up one of the large vertical beams, prompting an officer to call for back up.

The 24-year-old tried to reach the top of the structure but ran out of steam at about 30 feet, witnesses said. He perched on a beam and shouted out a list of his demands, until the NYPD hostage unit was brought in to deal with him.

Spoelstra initially demanded that 15 percent of staffers on the FDNY and NYPD be bisexual, witnesses said, but then changed his mind and said he wanted 15 of the police officers on scene to leave.

He also told cops he wouldn’t come down until Mayor Bloomberg resigned -- and asked for a cigarette and a jacket to get warm.

Whatever happened to demanding whirled peas? At least they got him down before he had to urinate again.

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