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Sympathetic Politicians Enable Occupy Violence
« on: November 04, 2011, 09:08:49 AM »
Yeah I know - everyone here already understands this and knew it from the very beginning. To date though I've only found a couple media stories about this and figured it needed to be posted for future reference. It's simply appalling to me that politicians show favoritism to an obviously violent group at the expense of the rule of law...and there are so very few stories about it.

 http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/282179/tide-turning-ows-charles-c-w-cooke

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There is increasing concern that the authorities have made a rod for their own backs. “Are we seriously suggesting that if a jihadist or neo-Nazi group moved in, they would have been indulged like this?” asked a community-board member pointedly. “Or the Klan!” interjected another. Meanwhile, the chairman worried about the precedent: “If any other group moves in in the future, would we be able to evict them, given the example we have set?” His ashen expression answered his own question.

At the last meeting, as I reported, “some of the members of Community Board One took turns to make brief speeches. With the exception of one woman, who spoke movingly of the Zuccotti Park area having been ‘under siege’ for ten years, each endorsed the OWS movement.” This time, each took it in turns to express disappointment, concern, and even anger. The rebels have lost their enablers.

I'll go ahead and post the stuff from Oakland's Mayor here to.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/01/open-letter-from-oakland-police-union-why-is-the-mayor-encouraging-city-employees-to-join-the-occupy-movements-strike/
 
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They say they’re “confused” but they aren’t. This couldn’t be simpler: Jean Quan, the Democratic mayor of a Democratic city, was utterly intimidated by the media backlash after cops followed her orders to clear the plaza in front of city hall and ended up clashing with protesters. So now, to make amends, not only has she given them back the space, she’s giving all city employees the day off tomorrow to join the mass strike against “the establishment” — except of course for the designated scapegoat, the police. If, like the union, you’re wondering whether Quan and those employees aren’t also part of “the establishment” and why she thinks handing out extra sick days for dissent is more important than running the city, clearly you’ve forgotten an important lesson. Namely, any liberal can “speak truth to power” by virtue of being a liberal, no matter how fantastically powerful he or she might be. If this idiot is qualified, Jean Quan certainly is too.
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Re: Sympothetic Politicians Enable Occupy Violence
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 09:36:14 AM »
Jean Quan is sympathetic because she is of a mind with them; she was an agitating activist and parlayed that into the Mayor's chair.

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When Jean Quan was an undergraduate, she once sat for 10 hours inside Sproul Hall at the University of California, Berkeley, demanding better treatment for minority students. As a community activist, she helped unionize hospital workers and organized parents in a poor neighborhood of West Oakland.
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At Berkeley, she gained experience working with the Third World Liberation Front, whose efforts on behalf of minority students led to the establishment of the university’s ethnic studies program.

After Berkeley, Ms. Quan moved to Hong Kong, New York and Los Angeles, working in the labor movement. In 1980, she returned to the Bay Area and led a campaign against the Ku Klux Klan after five anti-Klan protesters were killed in Greensboro, N.C.

In the mid-1980s, Ms. Quan, who by then had two children with her husband, Floyd Huen, helped elect several progressive candidates to the Oakland school board. She then ran herself, and later became school board president before being elected to the City Council.

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Since her upset victory last November, which made her the city’s first Asian-American mayor, she has sought to impose a progressive agenda on Oakland, but she has been stymied by polarizing politics, a struggling economy and her city’s 16 percent unemployment rate.

She often clashed with the police, recommending community organizing to offset a police force decimated by budget cuts. On Oct. 11, Chief Anthony Batts abruptly resigned. While he did not blame Ms. Quan directly, he said bureaucracy and micromanaging by city officials had made it impossible for him to do his job.

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Quan was a past chair of StopWaste.org (the Alameda County Waste Management Authority) and the Alameda Recycling Board. She also authored legislation which banned the use of polystyrene containers for take out foods, now widely adopted in other parts of California.[8]

In July 2010, Quan along with fellow City Council member and mayoral candidate Rebecca Kaplan were investigated by Oakland police for their actions during a protest following the manslaughter verdict of former BART Police officer Johannes Mehserle. Police claimed Quan and Kaplan joined a "human chain" which prevented officers from clearing a street, while the two countered they were acting as "peacekeepers".[9] No charges were filed against the Councilwomen. Quan was the victim of a street robbery in September of the same year, in her Fruitvale Avenue neighborhood. Quan attributed the crime to lack of employment opportunities in Oakland.[10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Quan

Everywhere one looks, there are people like her in government, making the friggin mess we are now in.
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Re: Sympothetic Politicians Enable Occupy Violence
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 09:50:17 AM »
Absolutely correct Pan. As nauseating as it is, there is a VERY LARGE element (not that I know or have any expertise on this, but in my opinion I'd say that the percentage of bad apples in our political machine is somewhere around 65% - at EVERY level of politics mind you - right down to the local, city level) within the ranks of our elected officials that sympathize with those that seek to destroy the country. Your example illustrates what happens when one radical attains a seat of power and passes down 'favors' to their fellow radicals. This newest example about the New York State Legislature and Community Board 1 points out what happens when a governing body has been infected - both examples are equally damaging and both examples are sadly, barely even spoken about in our media.

The only other example I can think of is that small mention last week about a Tea Party group thinking about legal action against a governing body in Virginia for charging them fees for permits to assemble while not charging the occupy mobs those same fees.

http://www.wmctv.com/story/15894484/tea-party-says-cities-favor-occupy-protesters

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Re: Sympothetic Politicians Enable Occupy Violence
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2011, 10:28:27 AM »
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She often clashed with the police, recommending community organizing to offset a police force decimated by budget cuts. On Oct. 11, Chief Anthony Batts abruptly resigned. While he did not blame Ms. Quan directly, he said bureaucracy and micromanaging by city officials had made it impossible for him to do his job.

Aah, now it makes sense.

While watching the theater of the absurd in Oakland I was struck by the stark difference in approach to dealing with the scumbags  by the cops. Last summer I watched a textbook police intervention to break up rioting thugs that was impressive in its effectiveness and non-violence. You usually can't round up a thousand anarchists without spilling some blood (not that that's necessarily a bad thing) but they did it.

Now they've been emasculated and neutered. The city is a laughing stalk and is set to be burned to the ground.

The difference is that Chief Anthony Batts is gone and quan remains.

The inmates are running the asylum...

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Re: Sympothetic Politicians Enable Occupy Violence
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2011, 10:58:23 AM »
Absolutely correct Pan. As nauseating as it is, there is a VERY LARGE element (not that I know or have any expertise on this, but in my opinion I'd say that the percentage of bad apples in our political machine is somewhere around 65% - at EVERY level of politics mind you - right down to the local, city level) within the ranks of our elected officials that sympathize with those that seek to destroy the country. Your example illustrates what happens when one radical attains a seat of power and passes down 'favors' to their fellow radicals. This newest example about the New York State Legislature and Community Board 1 points out what happens when a governing body has been infected - both examples are equally damaging and both examples are sadly, barely even spoken about in our media.

The only other example I can think of is that small mention last week about a Tea Party group thinking about legal action against a governing body in Virginia for charging them fees for permits to assemble while not charging the occupy mobs those same fees.

http://www.wmctv.com/story/15894484/tea-party-says-cities-favor-occupy-protesters



I've seen that happen right here in my podunk county.  The Oppressives get themselves elected and next thing you know you've got new boards and panels and commissions, headed by their friends and fellow travelers invited to come partake of fresh fields of opportunity, whose main goal is to support them and to obstruct and RULE OVER everybody else.

It's everywhere; they're an infestation.

I read the PJMedia pieces on who has been hired at just the DOJ -- an collection of the most militant radicals -- and I do wonder who we're going to be able to get with the nads to clean house.
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Re: Sympothetic Politicians Enable Occupy Violence
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2011, 11:04:28 AM »
It's a circular thing - and frankly I think it has it's roots and beginnings in outside forces (outside meaning, foreign, outside the Untied States). The UN's Agenda 21 is coming to mind. So in effect what we have is a covert foreign assault on our sovereignty that has been taking place over the last few generations...a covert war taking place right here on our own soil and NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IT.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 11:05:51 AM »
Beck is.  He covered Agenda 21 pretty well.

Then again, he is a nut .........   ::foilhathelicopter::
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Re: Sympothetic Politicians Enable Occupy Violence
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 11:18:09 AM »
Still, this is something that should be well known by your average American. It should be covered on every 'main stream' news source...and it isn't. I guess that's the point I was trying to make.
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Re: Sympothetic Politicians Enable Occupy Violence
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 11:39:22 AM »
They'll ultimately all be removed, but I doubt it will be as a result of anything conducted at a ballot box...
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2011, 11:40:42 AM »
Still, this is something that should be well known by your average American. It should be covered on every 'main stream' news source...and it isn't. I guess that's the point I was trying to make.

I know, but you did write "NO ONE".  What'd IDP say t'other day?  Nanny-nanny boo-boo! ;D

In any case, the Media Party doesn't want people to know what's afoot with Agenda 21 or we'd not be able to get away from hearing about it.

I'd been trying to bring it to the attention of my local "officials" for some time now and the issue has finally gotten some traction.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2011, 11:48:00 AM »
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I'd been trying to bring it to the attention of my local "officials" for some time now and the issue has finally gotten some traction.

                                                                   ::clapping::

That is something everyone needs to be doing. Since the media won't do it, that leaves us 'little people' to do the dirty work. And yeah, it's something I've been doing where I am too - but all you get is blank stares usually. Still, we're in the midst of a war whether people see it or not.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2011, 11:59:59 AM »
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I'd been trying to bring it to the attention of my local "officials" for some time now and the issue has finally gotten some traction.

                                                                   ::clapping::

That is something everyone needs to be doing. Since the media won't do it, that leaves us 'little people' to do the dirty work. And yeah, it's something I've been doing where I am too - but all you get is blank stares usually. Still, we're in the midst of a war whether people see it or not.


I'd like to take credit -- thanks for the clap -- but it wasn't due to my efforts, really.  Once Beck started talking about it, pieces ran in online publications, and other folks started paying attention, talking and posting on the local forum.

I don't care who gets the credit and I'm just glad people aren't looking at me like I'm some kinda nut anymore.  At one point, I emailed Randall O'Toole (Cato Institute) - the greenies call him "the anti-planner" --  about something related and he cautioned me against even bringing up Agenda 21 as connected to the issue.
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Re: Sympathetic Politicians Enable Occupy Violence
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2011, 12:16:12 PM »
Is there any doubt - ANY DOUBT WHATSOEVER - that the man who occupies the Oval Office would be on the street now with these agitators, trying to foment discord and violence? Any doubt? In the slightest skewing of the path of his life, private citizen Barack would be on the streets of Chicago with a bullhorn, leading the cries to abolish capitalism.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2011, 12:22:41 PM »
...At one point, I emailed Randall O'Toole (Cato Institute) - the greenies call him "the anti-planner" --  about something related and he cautioned me against even bringing up Agenda 21 as connected to the issue.

Did he give a reason for his caution?
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2011, 03:30:13 PM »
...At one point, I emailed Randall O'Toole (Cato Institute) - the greenies call him "the anti-planner" --  about something related and he cautioned me against even bringing up Agenda 21 as connected to the issue.

Did he give a reason for his caution?

Because I'd be looked at as a nut (yah, I knew that already!) and because the issue about which I was concerned at the time (I can't recall) was an ongoing one from the '50's, (before the Oppressives cooked up Agenda 21, although the two dove-tailed).  I got the impression he didn't put much credence in Agenda 21 gaining much traction.  This was a few years ago; I wonder if I'd get the same impression from him today.
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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2011, 04:12:23 PM »

Maybe Agenda 21 sounds con ::foilhathelicopter:: spiratorial whereas
establishing one or two points then tying more together over a period
of time would be more effective in retaining their attention to the point.
Allow them to make the revelation.


Agenda 21 rhymes with Area 51.



  

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Re: Sympathetic Politicians Enable Occupy Violence
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2011, 04:00:43 PM »
Agenda 21 also rhymes with Duh Wun!
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