Topic: Why Welfare should come with forced sterilization

[Weisshaupt]

  This woman should have be sterilized after the second child was born while receiving government assistance  and when she dared complained that someone, besides her, was responsible for her kids, she should have been immediately taken from her. We should bring back slavery for any adult who simply doesn't think they bear any responsibility for their own lives, or the lives they bring into the world. 

[Pandora]

While "social services" is "working" to get her and her children "re-united", they're yanking kids away from perfectly good, normal parents because they're "obese".

I don't know where the hell I live anymore.

[IronDioPriest]

Forced sterilization might be just, but it's not achievable without complete totalitarianism. But IF there is going to be welfare, it is completely within the realm of politics to create a policy that says however many children you have when you enter into welfare is your limit, and that any more will render you ineligible.

[LadyVirginia]

While "social services" is "working" to get her and her children "re-united", they're yanking kids away from perfectly good, normal parents because they're "obese".

I don't know where the hell I live anymore.

I think I posted this story before--about the woman who hung her 6 year old after the child had been taken from her on 3 previous occasions.  The "system"  seems to want to "reunite" families who have no business being together.  BUT parents who exercise responsibility and want to educate their children themselves or make their own medical decisions are treated as horrible people and harrassed and threatened with lawsuits and jail.

Forced sterilization might be just, but it's not achievable without complete totalitarianism. But IF there is going to be welfare, it is completely within the realm of politics to create a policy that says however many children you have when you enter into welfare is your limit, and that any more will render you ineligible.

Ah, but the compassionate libs will want free abortions for those women so they can stay in the system and "care" for their families. 


Because poor people can't exercise self-control especially when it comes to sex.
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[Weisshaupt]

Forced sterilization might be just, but it's not achievable without complete totalitarianism. But IF there is going to be welfare, it is completely within the realm of politics to create a policy that says however many children you have when you enter into welfare is your limit, and that any more will render you ineligible.

Nothing totalitarian about it.  You apply for welfare, we schedule the procedure, and you show up at the appointed time.  Free Surgery so you can have all the wanton irresponsible sex you want is just part of the benefit package we provide on welfare.  Oh? You don't want that?  Then don't apply.

UPDATE: and don't think I am just talking about women either. Anyone who needs pubic assistance  has proven themselves unable to care for themselves and therefore  unworthy to procreate. I am not a strong proponent of  social darwinism, but after I see a woman like this, I see nothing else for it. 

[Pandora]

I heard a pretty good plan for the future of welfare (from a source I cannot recall).  As of a date certain, anyone on welfare can just stay on welfare and their children as well, however .....

Once those children reach 18, that's it for them -- FOREVER.  No EBT, housing, heating, or any other benefits, EVER.

This, of course, would have been a good plan for a world in which we no longer live.

[Libertas]

I have a beter plan, END WELFARE!

[LadyVirginia]

I have a beter plan, END WELFARE!

 

[Damn_Lucky]

I have a beter plan, END WELFARE!

 

Y'all got my vote.

[Weisshaupt]

I have a beter plan, END WELFARE!

 

Y'all got my vote.

I  am not sure. If this is a genetic problem that causes people to become hunter gather unreasoning throwback, it might be better to just systematically remove it from the gene pool ...  if you don't you just get marauding tribes ( called liberals) who will eventually out vote us and institute welfare again.

[BigAlSouth]

I don't know where the hell I live anymore.

Ask Gunsmith . . .

[Pandora]

I don't know where the hell I live anymore.

Ask Gunsmith . . .

Who?

[Libertas]

I have a beter plan, END WELFARE!

 

Y'all got my vote.

I  am not sure. If this is a genetic problem that causes people to become hunter gather unreasoning throwback, it might be better to just systematically remove it from the gene pool ...  if you don't you just get marauding tribes ( called liberals) who will eventually out vote us and institute welfare again.

I guess I am not worrying about it...I am learning to think beyond voting (it has, after all, largely failed immensely), therefore I feel more liberated in my opinions to current matters, since I think natural selection will be the order of the day soon, and I think many on the libiot end of the spectrum are about to be made extinct, so you see, the problem will resolve itself pretty soon.

[Libertas]

I don't know where the hell I live anymore.

Ask Gunsmith . . .

Who?

That dude with the long locks that hangs around your house...

[Pandora]

I don't know where the hell I live anymore.

Ask Gunsmith . . .

Who?

That dude with the long locks that hangs around your house...

House?  What house?

Okay; enough.

And he cut his hair long ago, Libertas; regulation man-cut these days.

[Pandora]

I have a beter plan, END WELFARE!

 

Y'all got my vote.

I  am not sure. If this is a genetic problem that causes people to become hunter gather unreasoning throwback, it might be better to just systematically remove it from the gene pool ...  if you don't you just get marauding tribes ( called liberals) who will eventually out vote us and institute welfare again.

I guess I am not worrying about it...I am learning to think beyond voting (it has, after all, largely failed immensely), therefore I feel more liberated in my opinions to current matters, since I think natural selection will be the order of the day soon, and I think many on the libiot end of the spectrum are about to be made extinct, so you see, the problem will resolve itself pretty soon.

This is why I said 'a welfare plan for the world we no longer live in'.  We don't need a plan and we don't need to end anything; it's going to end itself and take the gimme-gartners with it.

As to the idea of a DNA-acquired gimme-gartner syndrome, I dunno.  Nature vs. nurture?

[Libertas]

Yeah, I dunno about that last part either, I'll wait for the movie...

Glad to hear Gunsmith is normal man-pretty now!

 

[MacWell™]

Bob Grant, (of radio fame here in the northeast) has bee sayin this for the last 20 years, "the Bob Grant forced sterilization program" You go on welfare, you can't have anymore kids, it's that simple.

[LadyVirginia]

Bob Grant, (of radio fame here in the northeast) has bee sayin this for the last 20 years, "the Bob Grant forced sterilization program" You go on welfare, you can't have anymore kids, it's that simple.

Having the government involved in that in any way gives me the heebie geebies.

No more welfare!

[Glock32]

This is why I said 'a welfare plan for the world we no longer live in'.  We don't need a plan and we don't need to end anything; it's going to end itself and take the gimme-gartners with it.

As to the idea of a DNA-acquired gimme-gartner syndrome, I dunno.  Nature vs. nurture?

I figure there is something to the genetic argument. My belief is that it is attributable to the massive changes brought about by the industrial revolution. For the first time in its history, mankind was able to regularly produce sustenance in excess of what it needed for mere subsistence. This perennial surplus, combined with other advances such as medicine, was seen as the tool to finally vanquish all the old scourges like famine, plagues, and such. The result over many generations has been that the people who would have been the first to go during nature's various culls were now surviving to produce large families of their own. With the advent of the welfare state in the late 19th century, the process went from being the causal effect of humanity's advancing technology and instead became an overt and directed policy.

Basically the peasants are still peasants, and the Ruling Class decided they would be easier to manage under a welfare state than with the older methods of serfdom and what not. That they were turned into a mass of reliable voters was just icing on the cake.

I have a similar theory about the emasculation of Western Civilization being due to the combined effects of WWI and WWII, where the nations of Western Europe lost in some cases over a third of their 18-40 year old male population.