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Light Bulb Ban...It's Here (Thanks, Idiot Republicans)
« on: December 16, 2011, 07:49:31 AM »
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The shutdown-averting budget bill will block federal light bulb efficiency standards, giving a win to House Republicans fighting the so-called ban on incandescent light bulbs.

GOP and Democratic sources tell POLITICO the final omnibus bill includes a rider defunding the Energy Department's standards for traditional incandescent light bulbs to be 30 percent more energy efficient.


I'll still never have to buy another bulb.
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2011, 07:58:57 AM »
Yup, I'm pretty set too. I might run out in 20 years or so. Probably need to stock up on just a couple more cases.

ETA: If you've considered purchasing bulk bulbs from Amazon because of the links at AoSHQ or Instapundit, purchase them knowing this: The reviews from people claiming that the bulbs do not seem to have been quality control checked are TRUE. I purchased several cases of 24 Sylvania bulbs - 100, 60, & 40 watt. Sylvania is normally a reliable brand. I don't know if it's the way Amazon packages them for shipment (seems a bit unprotected to me), or if these are factory seconds, or if they are generic bulbs with the Sylvania name on them, or what. But I went through each case and inspected each bulb because of the reviews I read, and in each case of 24, there were one or two bulbs that had the filament disconnected from one of the pole wires. No fix for that, they're junk. So a case of 24 bulbs was really a case of 22 or 23.

As a consumer, I was left with the choice of going through the hassle and time of returning several cases of bulbs and making sure I got credit, or eating the loss, so I ate the loss. The end result is that my value per bulb probably ended up not being a net gain over just going to the store and buying them there.
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2011, 08:05:46 AM »
Wow, y'all bought more than me!  I can last only 6-7 years!  ;D

But...not that these asshats couldn't sneak the ban into another bill sometime in the dark of night...we know how these vile creatures operate...they are two-legged cockroaches...hard to kill and they sneak around everywhere!!!
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2011, 08:08:12 AM »
Wait a minute!  Another horrific thought entered my head...what did the Repub's have to give up in order to have this?
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2011, 10:03:06 AM »
Wait a minute!  Another horrific thought entered my head...what did the Repub's have to give up in order to have this?

Endless $1.6 trillion deficits.   Now go back to staring at the shiny (incandescent!) lights.

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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2011, 11:24:34 AM »
Wait a minute!  Another horrific thought entered my head...what did the Repub's have to give up in order to have this?

Endless $1.6 trillion deficits.   Now go back to staring at the shiny (incandescent!) lights.

 ::gaah::

 ::cussing::
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2011, 12:36:34 PM »
It aint signed yet!
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2011, 12:56:32 PM »
Grateful for small mercies.

How about an outright repeal, now, creating the opportunity for a new company to take up the manufacture without fear of losing its shirt in case the "standards" are reinstated.  Or is that asking too much?
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2011, 01:05:51 PM »
Wait a minute!  Another horrific thought entered my head...what did the Repub's have to give up in order to have this?

Endless $1.6 trillion deficits.   Now go back to staring at the shiny (incandescent!) lights.

And you weren't kidding either; I just heard on the "news" that Congress is working on a ONE TRILLION DOLLAR SPENDING BILL.

Un @#$ believable.
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2011, 01:39:18 PM »
Yes, no shutdown, the RINO's always wet themselves at the very thought of a shutdown...they'll throw their own mother under the bus and let 'em throw it reverse to hit her again before they let a shutdown happen...
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2011, 01:41:07 PM »

Grateful for small mercies.

How about an outright repeal, now, creating the opportunity for a new company to take up the manufacture without fear of losing its shirt in case the "standards" are reinstated.  Or is that asking too much?

Remember the video about the last plant (GE)in US closing and the
last employees given the opportunity to go to the new out of country
GE plant? ETA: to train the new workforce


Yeah, we need a start up lightbulb company and they know where to
find a ready-to-go crew to man it.

 

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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2011, 01:48:51 PM »

Grateful for small mercies.

How about an outright repeal, now, creating the opportunity for a new company to take up the manufacture without fear of losing its shirt in case the "standards" are reinstated.  Or is that asking too much?

Remember the video about the last plant (GE)in US closing and the
last employees given the opportunity to go to the new out of country
GE plant? ETA: to train the new workforce


Yeah, we need a start up lightbulb company and they know where to
find a ready-to-go crew to man it.

 

Yep, I remember hearing it reported that the last plant closed, which is what prompted my post.

How mind-boggling is it that we don't even make light bulbs any longer.
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2011, 02:41:48 PM »
Boyoboy, Politico author Samuelsohn not tooooo biased, is he?  Too bad he left out some basic facts because he was busily quoting those who are bemoaning our lack of commitment to energy conservation and environmentalism.

Some of those facts ...

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Tucked into the giant 1,200-page omnibus spending bill passed by Congress Thursday night is a provision that prevents the government from spending any money to enforce the light bulb ban. This is effectively a reprieve for the 100 watt, but only temporarily, for the next fiscal year.

The bill does not overturn the light bulb ban, so it will still be law, and it’s likely that some more politically correct retailers will not stock them. And don’t expect any new incandescent light bulb factories to open; America’s last one closed a year ago. Unless congress blocks enforcement funding again a year from now, just try finding them in 2013.

So the battle to save the 100 watt bulb is not over.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2011/12/16/congress-kills-light-bulb-ban-sort-of/

So, like I wrote, nothing is dead, just delayed until .....
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2011, 02:52:15 PM »

Oh faint of heart could it be we need a Grinch?
That we need a Grinch who can throw a wrench.
Throw a wrench into all these gears and jamb
them to a stop.

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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2011, 04:43:21 PM »
It aint signed yet!

and it only pushed it off to next year if what I am reading at GWPundit is right........

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/12/congress-reverses-light-bulb-ban-not/


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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2011, 08:10:14 AM »
Yes, there is no way any company will bring manufacturing online just on the basis of temporarily denied funding for the ban's enforcement. Full repeal is the only thing that will reverse this particular idiocy.

An iconic American invention, so deeply associated with technological progress that it has become a shorthand symbol for the very concept of bright new ideas, banned with the stroke of a pen.
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2011, 10:59:24 AM »
An iconic American invention, so deeply associated with technological progress that it has become a shorthand symbol for the very concept of bright new ideas, banned with the stroke of a pen.

George W. Bush's pen, no less.
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2011, 12:37:26 PM »
An iconic American invention, so deeply associated with technological progress that it has become a shorthand symbol for the very concept of bright new ideas, banned with the stroke of a pen.

George W. Bush's pen, no less.

Exactly.  Schmuck.  "Compassionate conservative" my ass.  Same goes for Upton, the E-GOP who helped push it through.
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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2011, 12:49:10 PM »
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The shutdown-averting budget bill will block federal light bulb efficiency standards, giving a win to House Republicans fighting the so-called ban on incandescent light bulbs.

GOP and Democratic sources tell POLITICO the final omnibus bill includes a rider defunding the Energy Department's standards for traditional incandescent light bulbs to be 30 percent more energy efficient.


I'll still never have to buy another bulb.

If they can defund DOE's standards for traditional incandescent light bulbs
why can't they defund the EPA's standards for permitting, or drilling, or coal
mining?  Is it because too many voters are busy watching Dancing With the Stars
to GAS, but that 100 watt bulb is necessary to read the sports page or light
up the kitchen?

What kind of 2x4 is needed to get these people's attention?


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Re: Light Bulb Ban Yanked
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2011, 05:00:43 PM »
What kind of 2x4 is needed to get these people's attention?

I'm thinking more along the lines of something in a tubular shape and made of metal...
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