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charlesoakwood

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Re: Debate tonight 1-16-12
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2012, 11:34:32 PM »
Then Hannity interviews Dick Morris. Which begs the question: Where is Perry and Paul? Are they too busy to be bothered with Hannity?

I don't like Dick Morris but I prefer his analysis to that of Luntz. That's not saying much, though. Morris has a habit of making wild, stupid ass predictions (remember his Condi versus Hillary book?) and he is now saying that Gingrich might win SC. That's a bit of a stretch.

And that (unbelievably) rounded out Sean's pathetic post debate interviews.

Well, at least it wasn't O'Reilly. Ted Baxter would have been telling the candidates what they needed to think and say.

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Re: Debate tonight 1-16-12
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2012, 12:28:33 AM »
I still don't know what to think.  All five articulate a conservative philosophy, but I want one who sounds like he means it and looks like a leader.  Someone who could actually git 'er done.  Gingrich.  Gingrich and Perry are persuasive on that score.  I suppose Santorum is sincere, but I'm afraid he'd bust a blood vessel in his head before he got very far in office.  I admire Ron Paul.  He has a tendency to babble when hit with a tough question, but he's a hero.  He's completely fearless, awesomely consistent, and is willing to persevere to the edge of doom in telling the country it's gone off the Constitutional tracks.  I think he means to educate, and to shift the public debate rather than go all out for the presidency.  As he said, actually being president is "a risk I run."  And I think he's shifted the country's head a degree or two on the matter of government overreach.  Still, I want somebody else to actually rein in the runaway horse - Gingrich.  Or Perry.

So here we are - can't coalesce around an ABR candidate because of the embarrassment of riches.  What irony.

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Re: Debate tonight 1-16-12
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2012, 01:32:52 AM »
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Santorum is sincere, but I'm afraid he'd bust a blood vessel in his head before he got very far in office.

Yeah, he's got high anxiety.

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I admire Ron Paul. ... I think he means to educate, and to shift the public debate rather than go all out for the presidency.

Heard that interview and he was quite candid.  He has brought an accurate perspective and understanding of our money and debt to more people than ever before.  It'd be good of our
new president to put him in charge of deconstructing the Fed.

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Re: Debate tonight 1-16-12
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2012, 06:58:39 AM »
I don't understand why the poll numbers for Perry won't move. He seemed pretty good to me last night. Other candidates seem to get a bounce from a good showing in the debate, but not Perry.
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Re: Debate tonight 1-16-12
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2012, 07:21:06 AM »
It's almost as if the fix is in, eh?!

Either I am spot on with Machiavellian types pulling strings...like The Butthead...

Or...

Where's my hat?

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We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Debate tonight 1-16-12
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2012, 11:46:05 AM »
I don't understand why the poll numbers for Perry won't move. He seemed pretty good to me last night. Other candidates seem to get a bounce from a good showing in the debate, but not Perry.

GOP and MSM are loath for him to be candidate.  Past two weeks media coverage
gives him none to little air time.  The previous debate he said he would sent troops
back to Iraq and the response was dead air.  That's the pudding.

On the other hand:

Who won the debate?

Newt Gingrich        62.52%  (1,056 votes) 
Rick Perry                9.47%  (160 votes) 
Rick Santorum        10.01%  (169 votes) 
Mitt Romney           12.14%  (205 votes) 
Ron Paul                  5.86%  (99 votes) 
 
Total Votes: 1,689

Just heard Republican audience hits new low by cheering child labor.  Cheers!


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Re: Debate tonight 1-16-12
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2012, 02:00:17 PM »
Willard leading with 35%...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/south_carolina/election_2012_south_carolina_republican_primary

Either this poll is full of crap, or people in SC have lost their minds and are blindly following Nikki's endorsement without researching and using their common sense!

 ::bashing::

And...

It looks to me as though Perry hit a nerve.  

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_TURKEY_RICK_PERRY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-01-17-12-21-28

There is no doubt Ankara has been drifting towards Jihad and their rhetoric against Israel is right out of the Iranian, Nazi & PaulBot playbook!  And our erstwhile NATO ally did NOT allow us to roll land units across their territory when we went after Iraq, if you recall we had to load up and go through The Ditch and forego a second front from the north because of those diaper-stains!

I say kick their butts out of NATO and salute them properly!

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PS-Mooning applies to idiot AP tools too!
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Debate tonight 1-16-12
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2012, 02:23:04 PM »
Well, SC does keep sending Grahamnesty back to the Senate, so go figure.  I consider all of this crap nothing more than spectator entertainment. The fix is in, and even if it weren't it's far too late to "save" anything.
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Re: Debate tonight 1-16-12
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2012, 09:25:31 PM »

Imagining Lindsey Graham stumping back home ... he sings Swanee River to them and they swoon.

How else could he get re-elected?
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