I think that a lot of liberals actually believe that they are making America a better place, not the ones with power, but the ones that vote those other bastards in. Talk to the average liberal on the street and they truly believe that we (America and by extension the government) need to take care of the destitute, regardless of how they got that way. These liberals think they are good people caring for those that can't (don't or won't) take care of themselves. They just don't or can't perceive of the inevitable outcome. Either they assume that there is an infinite amount of money (other peoples money) or just don't think that far ahead. They are blind to the fact that they are being used, and sleep well at night believing they are good people wanting to help the downtrodden. They are incapable of thinking through the problem and believe that everyone is good and would not ask for a hand out if they could fend for themselves. These are the elderly that get scammed, the young that think life should be fair the middle aged that feel sorry for those less fortunate. For the most part they do volunteer and donate their hard earned dollars, but the only people they have issues with are conservatives. They feel the conservatives don't care about the same things that they do, but they are wrong for the most part. Conservatives do care but we take a logical look at the situation. We will not throw good money after bad, we have seen the inner city single mom that has 5 kids (most from different baby daddy's) and is pregnant because that means another $500 per month form uncle sucker. We have seen our hard earned cash wasted by the government on the mating habits of the South African Te-Tse fly. We are skeptical of "Global Warming" and don't think that "going green" is anything more than another scam perpetrated on the less inquisitive just to scam even more money from hard working Americans. As some of these, as we call them, bleeding heart liberals get taken and scammed they wise up and stop giving their time and money, but they still expect America to do the right thing, after all the government has more money then they do and more people working for them that can do the volunteer work. But they don't realize that that is just a bigger drain on the economy. I really feel that these liberals don't have the capacity to see boogie man in the closet and assume that everything is going to be OK. They don't see the train coming off the tracks, or just don't want to believe what we conservatives are telling them. They don't believe it because their leaders have convinced them that the conservatives are evil and anything we say is a lie. They are not willing or capable of looking for the truth. It is kind of like my marriage. A few months ago I suggested to my wife that since interest rates are low (lower than our current mortgage) we should look into refinancing. But because she has anger towards me (for whatever reason, I don't know, well maybe I know a some) she wont listen to me. But the day her father suggested we should look into refinancing she called our loan broker and started the paperwork. Same suggestion, different messenger, got a result. She trusted her dad implicitly and his suggestion made sense to her, while mine was not even worthy of listening to. If there were just one of the liberal leaders that was willing to tell the truth, forgo his political or monetary gain and start speaking the truth the country just might have a fighting chance. The only hope we have is that there are more conservatives that want to get America back on track and we will have to force it down their throats, much like the current administration is trying to force his agenda down ours. We need to find a way to show everyone that obama is dividing us in order to conquer us. They will say that he is already our president, he doesn't need to conquer us. But they don't see his end game, the total destruction of the greatest nation ever to exist on this lowly rock hurtling its way through space. They could if they would just think for themselves.