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The Endangered RINO List
« on: March 21, 2011, 04:25:47 PM »
Okay, let's give this a shot and see where it goes. Put your nominees below and be sure to include information (linked) as to why they must be given the boot. Also, list a primary challenger and campaign donation info (linked) if there is one or when one appears on the scene.

1. Steve LaTourette (R-OH) on the list for being an arrogant douche who insults the base. See this discussion.
No known primary challenger at this time but we can't wait to send money their way as soon as they announce.

2. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) on the list for being a consistent vote against just about everything in the Republican platform, let alone anything that even vaguely resembles conservatism.
No known primary challenger at this time.

3. Rep. Mike Kelly (PA3) is nominated by American Patriot for voting with the leadership every single time. This is not the kind of behavior we would like to see in a freshman House Republican. The guy seems to be there to cozy up to leadership and get himself a perpetual seat. Classic RINO behavior. Nice recommend, AmPat.

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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2011, 04:37:37 PM »
This post will be updated with relevant information as it comes out. Here is one that just popped up:

If you are wondering why this list is needed you need look no further than this WSJ article on Republicans pondering tax increases in order to get Democrats to compromise on spending.

To quote Hugh Hewitt: "Do you think we're stupid?"

One of the RINOs in this piece is Tom Coburn (R-OK)

EDIT:

Here is a link to the 2012 Senate election list.
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2011, 04:45:24 PM »
Lamar Alexander, RINO, Tennessee.

He has outlived his usefulness. Too much a part of the power structure. Dinosaur. Lost his way.
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2011, 04:55:43 PM »
Quote from: Predator Don on March 21, 2011, 04:45:24 PM
Lamar Alexander, RINO, Tennessee.

He has outlived his usefulness. Too much a part of the power structure. Dinosaur. Lost his way.

I agree but can you flesh this suggestion out a bit with something specific and current. Is he up for election this go round?

I am thinking about putting some stuff together on John Cornyn, for instance. I know, that's low hanging fruit but it has to be done by someone. I gotta check and see if he is up this time around. Congressmen are always up so they are a bit easier.
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2011, 05:11:02 PM »
I think limiting this to politicians specifically up for reelecton in 12 is smart. Makes the list more actionable and less an overall "gripe against rinos" thread.

I like radiomans idea too. I'd just need guidance on steps forward.

I've thought about starting an original content blog, reassigning the url to nav to the blog, and having the forum linked to the front page, like it was at p-line. But as of now, that's just an inkling, no concrete ideas.
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2011, 05:32:25 PM »
Remember, just because p-line used that design doesn't mean that it was a. Bad design. It was the people running it that caused the problems.

You can do a lot with a home page to attract new people to the forums.



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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2011, 05:42:09 PM »
Quote from: trapeze on March 21, 2011, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: Predator Don on March 21, 2011, 04:45:24 PM
Lamar Alexander, RINO, Tennessee.

He has outlived his usefulness. Too much a part of the power structure. Dinosaur. Lost his way.

I agree but can you flesh this suggestion out a bit with something specific and current. Is he up for election this go round?

I am thinking about putting some stuff together on John Cornyn, for instance. I know, that's low hanging fruit but it has to be done by someone. I gotta check and see if he is up this time around. Congressmen are always up so they are a bit easier.


LAMAR! isn't up for re election until 2014, but I will answer with a little more detail.

1) He supported and voted for the START treaty....The one Russia has rubbed our noses in.
2) He has greenie tendencies. Offered up the Clean Air Planning Act and on several occasions has commented on the ills of global climate change. He was also on the fence regarding cap and trade.

To his credit, he read the Tea leaves and has muted his responses....But make no mistake, LAMAR! could turn on a dime.
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2011, 06:14:18 PM »
I agree with IDP...I think, in order to keep this as relevant as possible, it needs to focus on RINOs who are up for 2012. So we will have to punt on Lamar until the next go round. But, yeah, he's definitely establishment trash.
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2011, 07:18:08 PM »
Lindsey Graham. Aside from being generally annoying, his two major sins are being a vocal proponent of amnesty for illegal aliens, and his rubber stamping of radical left wing Supreme Court appointments based on some nebulous idea that presidents have a "right" to politicize the court.
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2011, 07:26:17 PM »
Also, if I may urge caution, I say we should mind our 'tone' (holy crap! I said it!) so as to come across as somewhat professional, or at least serious. It'll lend itself to looking less like a "gripe" thread or post, like IDP said and will be taken more seriously.
I think it could work and do well. A regular public service and might even put us on the map.

I don't know how to collate the info, maybe in a spread-sheet format, but I don't have much computer experience, so this problem looks like the proverbial nail to me.  
I do think it should include votes on anything substantial, quotes, links and certainly any info re: donations that may be relevant.

As an aside, I can't think of any pre-'10 incumbents who I'd vote for, but I haven't seen the entire freshman class nor heard of any that did a 180 after election.

Should we bother w/ the Presidential race as well? Plenty of RINO's there to be busted. Maybe we can call this project "RINO busters" or "The RINO field guide" or would that look less than serious?
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2011, 07:28:55 PM »
Quote from: Glock32 on March 21, 2011, 07:18:08 PM
Lindsey Graham. Aside from being generally annoying, his two major sins are being a vocal proponent of amnesty for illegal aliens, and his rubber stamping of radical left wing Supreme Court appointments based on some nebulous idea that presidents have a "right" to politicize the court.

Completely agree and this one, like former Republican Arlen Specter, needs no further explanation. However, I don't think he is up until 2014, so for now he is not eligible for the list.

Here are the Republican incumbents who are not (yet) retiring:

Richard Lugar of Indiana
Olympia Snowe of Maine
Scott Brown of Massachusetts
Roger Wicker of Mississippi
Bob Corker of Tennessee
Orrin Hatch of Utah
John Barrasso of Wyoming

Any of these stand out to anyone?
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2011, 07:46:12 PM »
Yeah, Snowe!

And Lugar can be squishy...but we'll see what happens there.

But Snowe...Maine...Maine...   ::facepalm::
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2011, 08:38:53 PM »
Orrin Hatch has been trying really hard to rehabilitate himself in the eyes of Tea Partiers. He's always been of the "compromise is a self-evident virtue" clan, but has always been a pretty conservative guy. I think the Tea Party has awakened something in him, but I want to see more to know whether its a genuine awakening or just pandering.

I'm leaving room in my heart for true awakenings among people who have demonstrated their basic decency and love for America. The overreaching of the Left is bound to move some Republicans to the Right, and I'm open to observing who they are.
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2011, 08:39:17 PM »
Snowe need to be melted.
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2011, 08:39:23 PM »
Yeah, I think that Snowe goes on the list without any discussion needed.

Lugar, probably. Almost certainly. But I will wait for someone to build the case. It shouldn't be too hard.

Hatch has been making conservative noises as election time approaches. I wonder if he thinks we are stupid?

Brown isn't worth the trouble. He will probably be defeated by a Democrat in the general. As would anyone else with an "R" next to their name. This is Massachusetts we're talking about. I suppose it's theoretically possible for a Republican to win but MA is going to have to hit bottom before they will come to grips with reality.

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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2011, 08:45:09 PM »
Quote from: IronDioPriest on March 21, 2011, 08:38:53 PM
Orrin Hatch has been trying really hard to rehabilitate himself in the eyes of Tea Partiers. He's always been of the "compromise is a self-evident virtue" clan, but has always been a pretty conservative guy. I think the Tea Party has awakened something in him, but I want to see more to know whether its a genuine awakening or just pandering.

I'm leaving room in my heart for true awakenings among people who have demonstrated their basic decency and love for America. The overreaching of the Left is bound to move some Republicans to the Right, and I'm open to observing who they are.

 I don't think Utah is buying his nonsense after what they did the the last guy!
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2011, 08:45:58 PM »
These three are retiring.

Jon Kyl of Arizona
John Ensign of Nevada
Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas

We need to watch these primaries closely in order to try and defeat the establishment toads, some of whom will have the full backing of the state parties.

Not that you can't say the exact same thing for the challengers in the seats currently held by Democrats.
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2011, 08:48:03 PM »
Quote from: trapeze on March 21, 2011, 08:45:58 PM
These three are retiring.

Jon Kyl of Arizona
John Ensign of Nevada
Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas

We need to watch these primaries closely in order to try and defeat the establishment toads, some of whom will have the full backing of the state parties.

 We might have to track the local TEA parties for guidance.
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2011, 06:57:05 AM »
Quote from: John Florida on March 21, 2011, 08:48:03 PM
Quote from: trapeze on March 21, 2011, 08:45:58 PM
These three are retiring.

Jon Kyl of Arizona
John Ensign of Nevada
Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas

We need to watch these primaries closely in order to try and defeat the establishment toads, some of whom will have the full backing of the state parties.

 We might have to track the local TEA parties for guidance.

This might be a place to start -

http://teapartypatriots.org/allgroups.aspx

ETA - Links in this one seem a little better filled out -

http://teapartyorg.ning.com/groups?page=1
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Re: The Endangered RINO List
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2011, 10:46:25 AM »
John McCain

As much as I admire his service, he has failed to secure our southern border. In fact, he was an amnesty advocate until public opinion stopped him.

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