Topic: Debate Part Uno

[warpmine]

And the no-name nerd in glasses basically just said that "liberals" and "the American people" are two disparate groups of people.
"Liberals" want Obama to go for the jugular, but "The American people" appreciate Obama's likability, therefore he didn't go for it.

They're gonna have to point it out to the clueless twit via diagram. He may be the smartest in the room if a rat isn't in there with him but tonight he looked like the idiot we thought knew he was.

[warpmine]

Body language: BO looking down. Looked like he was being taken to task. Scolded. Upset at being schooled.

They can spin it and they will but the subconscious mind locks in these things and stubbornly refuses to let them go.

Plus four years of fail.

Speaking of schooled, this might be the first time he actually attended schooling and in public view.

[IronDioPriest]

Kos tries (and fails) to put a brave face on the situation.

If debate victories led to electoral victories, we never would've had President George W. Bush. And we would've had a President Hillary Clinton. There was no gaffe that Republicans and the media can point to, no defining "moment" that will recast the race. What happened is that Romney looked livelier and more aggressive while Obama looked listless and disconnected. It certainly created a bad night for our side, but nothing lasting.

Maybe I'm an Eeyore, but I tend to think Kos' analysis is something that shouldn't be discounted. (Can't believe I'm saying that).

Particularly with the reality of the media cheerleaders spinning this away. I just don't know if defeating Obama in a debate (one of three) is going to result in a Romney victory.

One good thing I think is that Obama is now in a box. He has to get "passionate" at the next debate, or risk being hammered again from the Left. For him, passionate is angry, and he does not do angry well.

[warpmine]

"Carville: "Mitt Romney came with a chainsaw."

Obama showed up with note from his dead mother "Please excuse Barry from this horrible debate performance."

Sincerely,

Ann Dunham.

 

Proof of the empty suit. Surprised though, nobody commented on his suit of clothing. Surely with modern day commentators they could have given him kudos for his clothing choice and called it a victory in that sense.

Hopefully, the next debate, Romney will bring out the "There you go again, using twisted made up facts"

[warpmine]

Kos tries (and fails) to put a brave face on the situation.

If debate victories led to electoral victories, we never would've had President George W. Bush. And we would've had a President Hillary Clinton. There was no gaffe that Republicans and the media can point to, no defining "moment" that will recast the race. What happened is that Romney looked livelier and more aggressive while Obama looked listless and disconnected. It certainly created a bad night for our side, but nothing lasting.

Maybe I'm an Eeyore, but I tend to think Kos' analysis is something that shouldn't be discounted. (Can't believe I'm saying that).

Particularly with the reality of the media cheerleaders spinning this away. I just don't know if defeating Obama in a debate (one of three) is going to result in a Romney victory.

One good thing I think is that Obama is now in a box. He has to get "passionate" at the next debate, or risk being hammered again from the Left. For him, passionate is angry, and he does not do angry well.

Most certainly, he does not. I'm surprised they didn't spin it that Lehrer was at fault. This was as close to a Douglass v. Lincoln debate venue as we're going to get. Will they change it back to a Q&A style so Zero can have an edge?

[Libertas]

Heard all the libiot sour grapes and blaming on the way into the office this morning...the Cwissy Maffeews clips are hilarious (at the begininning, then they get downright pathetic), libiots blaming Kerry for being a poor prep choice, libiots wondering what the heck Obama was doing, libiots upset that Lerher let it get out of control, libiots saying Obama got chainsawed, libiots saying no big deal-no major gaffes he can bounce back...blah, blah, blah...the headless chicken sightings are non-stop and it is hilarious.

I think Palin is right...when leftists start getting their asses kicked, they freak out and pull all sorts of nasty things out of their black bag of tricks...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/03/palin_warns_obama_camp_will_not_go_down_without_swinging_will_pull_something.html

Expect more than one October surprise, expect rank push-polling and libiot over-sampling like you've never witnessed before, expect libiot big shots in Hollyweird to go apebuts, look for voter fraud and intimidation the likes of which has never been seen before.

If the Romney camp has any sense at all it will go on full alert from this point forward and adopt a take no prisoners approach to every aspect of the campaign.

The time to cut the head off the snake as arrived, and he better not blow it.

[Predator Don]

I could not watch it either. I was afraid my BP would spike so high I'd have a nose bleed. But I kept getting text messages about Romney schooling the Boy King, so maybe I will watch it now.

Lehrer was the best of those chosen as moderators.  Next time will be tougher.

Yea, I got home in time to catch the last 30 minutes. Told the wife mr Lehrer should be getting a call from the IRS any time now.

[Predator Don]

Think America finally realized the Boy-Emperor has no clothes?

Bottom line: Liberalism is a failed ideology that must be supported by lies and distortions. IT's always just a matter of time before this is realized.

Disclosure: Did not, could not watch debate. But I guaran-damn-tee ya one thing: I'm watching every blessed minute of the Paul Ryan/Uncle SloJoe debate. I'm thinking it will be a two bottle two buck Chuck nite!

I believe a baseball analogy is appropriate: your starter is getting knocked around and a call to the bullpen is placed. "get Biden warm, he is going in".......and the crowd close to the pen begin to moan......not biden, he can't get anyone out.

[Predator Don]

Kos tries (and fails) to put a brave face on the situation.

If debate victories led to electoral victories, we never would've had President George W. Bush. And we would've had a President Hillary Clinton. There was no gaffe that Republicans and the media can point to, no defining "moment" that will recast the race. What happened is that Romney looked livelier and more aggressive while Obama looked listless and disconnected. It certainly created a bad night for our side, but nothing lasting.

Maybe I'm an Eeyore, but I tend to think Kos' analysis is something that shouldn't be discounted. (Can't believe I'm saying that).

Particularly with the reality of the media cheerleaders spinning this away. I just don't know if defeating Obama in a debate (one of three) is going to result in a Romney victory.

One good thing I think is that Obama is now in a box. He has to get "passionate" at the next debate, or risk being hammered again from the Left. For him, passionate is angry, and he does not do angry well.

There is no doubt the media will kick it in high gear and passion for the left is anger. Problem I see with it is we all know the talking points Obama will use next debate, the kill the elderly, poison the land, same  bullspit. I'd be surprised if Romney isn't prepared for it. The liberal play book is old and tired.

Also, if anyone is to blame for his lousy debate performance, a case can be made it is the liberal media elites responsibility. We have a narcissist who in 4 years has faced nothing but admiration and praise. They've put halos on his head, legs tingling, heaping praise on the guy......he's faced no real challenges to his programs, his rhetoric is not questioned, his race baiting is given a pass because he hasn't had to face a media doing thier job. The result? This may have been the first time in 4 years his ideal has been questioned.

Now, I never would have thought romneys moderate stance on a few issues would assist him, but I believe it did. If he is elected, we have some work to do, but today, the entire republican party should thank mitt Romney because he taught a lesson on how to battle the liberals without cow towing down. I hope boehnermand a few others took notes.

[LadyVirginia]

Body language: BO looking down. Looked like he was being taken to task. Scolded. Upset at being schooled.

They can spin it and they will but the subconscious mind locks in these things and stubbornly refuses to let them go.

Plus four years of fail.

Speaking of schooled, this might be the first time he actually attended schooling and in public view.

and he got graded!

[ToddF]

Someone didn't take their happy pills last night. 

 

[LadyVirginia]

Someone didn't take their happy pills last night. 

 

 

[trapeze]

Here's the thing: Yes, the reaction to this performance will be ramp up the passion and yes, that means anger.

If there is one thing that BO has in abundance it is anger. He was very obviously coached to keep his anger in check last night and he did do that. So we can expect lots of passionate anger in the next debate.

Except it's a town hall format. Except foreign policy will not be off of the table.

That is a delicate line to walk and and he isn't up to it.

Here's the other thing: BO is neither smart nor is he a hard worker. Evidence: It's all around us but in particular we can look at BO's preferred activities of golf and basketball. Plus eating out at fast food joints. Plus parties. The guy clearly does not like his actual job. He doesn't bother with intelligence briefings because it's a part of the job that he doesn't like. Trust me on this: There are many, many parts of the job that he does not like and he, being BO, doesn't feel that he has to do them. And there isn't anyone for him to answer to so nothing is ever done about it. He is lazy. And not a genius.

So what does that mean? It means he didn't do much debate prep at all. Because he didn't like it. And because he didn't think he needed to because he thinks that he is smarter than everyone around him.

I don't think he will do much better in any of the remaining debates. There just isn't any reason for him to. He can't run on his record, it sucks. His opponent isn't John McStupid this time. He might study a little bit more for the next debate but it will be akin to putting last week's casserole (the one that got left in the fridge too long) onto a nicer plate. At best.

They will try another debate coach. Because it had to be the debate coach. It couldn't be BO. No way. Personally, I am hoping that Valerie Jarrett is the next coach. She has just as much of an absurdly inflated opinion of her own intelligence as BO does. And she is one angry woman.

He doesn't do anger well. He isn't passionate about anything but his marxist stuff and he can't reveal that in public.

He had his shot. It was last night. He wasted it.

The remaining debates are going to be bad for him. More people will tune in and they will not like what they see in BO.

And does anyone seriously think that Biden can pull it out for the team?

No, of course not. Ryan should decimate him.

[trapeze]

Funny thing to remember in all of this: Romney is the guy they wanted.

And by "they" I mean the admin and the MFM. They marginalized everyone else in the primaries to steer it to this outcome.

[Alphabet Soup]

Kos tries (and fails) to put a brave face on the situation.

If debate victories led to electoral victories, we never would've had President George W. Bush. And we would've had a President Hillary Clinton. There was no gaffe that Republicans and the media can point to, no defining "moment" that will recast the race. What happened is that Romney looked livelier and more aggressive while Obama looked listless and disconnected. It certainly created a bad night for our side, but nothing lasting.

Maybe I'm an Eeyore, but I tend to think Kos' analysis is something that shouldn't be discounted. (Can't believe I'm saying that).

Particularly with the reality of the media cheerleaders spinning this away. I just don't know if defeating Obama in a debate (one of three) is going to result in a Romney victory.

One good thing I think is that Obama is now in a box. He has to get "passionate" at the next debate, or risk being hammered again from the Left. For him, passionate is angry, and he does not do angry well.

You're describing Alphabet's Axiom: "Take your wisdom where you find it" - or alternatively, don't reject wisdom just because it came from an idiot. They're right about the truism, and wrong about the application.

The debates are but an act (or two) of a whole production. I'm not even going to bother to look up the reference to Reagan losing anything to Mondale because, this many years later and this many miles down the road, no one remembers it that way.

I didn't (couldn't) watch last night but I'm sure that there will be video. And I'm certain that I know what I'm going to see - a bully getting his comeuppance. It was one of my very most favorite pastimes when I was in school - confronting the bully and making him eat worms. And I did so with righteousness because I knew in my heart that bullying a bully was exempted behavior. And my classmates knew it too. They knew that I wasn't the bad guy - just someone sick and tired of the antics of a thug and someone trying to make things right.

This is the image I carry and want to convey for the rest of the campaign....

Øbozo - we're sick and tired of your crap and want you gone!

[Alphabet Soup]

God that picture is priceless! Even having the wookie enforcer lumbering there protecting his ass he looks small, effeminate, and thoroughly beaten.

[LadyVirginia]

Obama is lazy.  Period.

He's had one goal in life and that is to craft his messiah personna.  But what worked on the south side of Chicago doesn't work when the shift hits the fan.  What worked in 2008 doesn't work when substance is needed.  He's proven you can't fake substance. He has nothing to draw on.  The hoopla of 2008 isn't enough.  Romney has decades of working as a leader and all that entails. 

Again Obama's goal was to craft this personna.  He had no plan B.  He thought that would be enough to get him through one and then a second term.  He's spent his entire life getting by.  He didn't get into office and try to do something to give this personna some credibility. No, he's too lazy. Plus as a narcissist he's doesn't have to bother.  I've known people who spend their life getting by and they have no clue it's not working!  They can't see it!  Nothing anyone tells Obama will penetrate his brain because he knows, he knows it's not him that failed.

Obama will get tips on cosmetic things like don't look down but as he tries to do that something else will fail him--maybe his anger.  I don't see him being able to pull it off in the next 2 debates.  And what the heck is he going to talk about for foreign policy?

BO performed last night exactly as we here at IAL expected.  We know him as that kind of man.  Now the rest of the country got to see it.

[ToddF]

Anyone putting out odds on whether that middle finger chin scratch will emerge in the next debate or not?

[Alphabet Soup]

Anyone putting out odds on whether that middle finger chin scratch will emerge in the next debate or not?

I was surprised that Valerie hadn't put his hand in a cast to prevent it. (You know it's just a matter of time) 

[Alphabet Soup]

Hey MNHawk - where did you find that "happy pills" pic? Do you mind if I share it around?