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The "if Obama wins" thread
« on: November 04, 2012, 12:35:50 AM »
Might as well go ahead and start this one up.  I hope and pray to God that this will prove to be nothing more than a hypothetical discussion.  But seriously, what if he wins -- legit or otherwise?

Just the thought of it, now that the possibility is only 2 days away, fills me with a combination of dread, anger, and pre-mourning. I will honestly feel like I no longer have a country. If it happens, sad to say that it will officially be time to put to bed the ideals of the Founders, because an electorate that could return this man to office is an electorate that is literally incapable of carrying forth those ideals. The fact that this election is even up for contention does not bode well for the future of this country. There shouldn't even be anyone who would publicly admit their intention to vote for Obama.

What are your plans for the future if this happens? I don't think I have ever yet stared down the barrel of such a life altering moment. I really do believe an Obama re-election is the final nail for this country, and the thought of that has caused a great deal of mental and emotional anguish.
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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2012, 01:14:05 AM »
I don't even want to think about it, much less discuss it right now.  Time enough for that later, if .......

I will say this, though:  this may be the last American-style administration we'll be able to muster (should Romney win) unless we get a firm handle on legal immigration and the illegal invasion, and education.
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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2012, 09:05:50 AM »
Think of the mandates of a 2nd Obama administration.

I believe he will lose. But if he wins - whether by a wide margin or slim - he will unquestionably assume a wide and deep mandate to further destroy the country, ensconce his agenda, and consolidate hard-Left power.

I can scarcely bring myself to begin enumerating in my own mind the things he will assume the liberty to do. I fear a Barack Hussein Obama without the constraints of electoral politics. And you know what? We're going to get that Barack Obama whether he is re-elected or not.

If he is not, I fully expect outrage after outrage from 11/6/12 through 1/20/13. Then I fully expect a microphone to be in front of his face daily, as he takes the mantle of King Race-pimp, and the primary go-to guy when the media needs America-bashing or Republican-bashing.

He will be a thorn in the side of this country forever. His election truly was a pivotal moment in American history. Pivotal in an extremely negative and dangerous way. When I think of events that challenged the existence of this nation - like the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, or WWII, and the countless lives lost, I see that America emerged from those existential crises because of the nation's character, which was built upon a set of principles which became ensconced in our constitution.

Thus far, countless lives have not been lost to this existential crises, but it threatens nonetheless. And when I compare, I believe that the crises manifested in the election of Obama threatens the existence of America more. The character of the nation and the constitution that ensconce our supporting ideals teeter on the edge of irrelevance or non-existence. Where a birthing revolution, a civil war, or a world war could not destroy, a nation willing to send Barack Hussein Obama back to the White House may succeed in destroying.

The constitution was never built to sustain a craven electorate and a malevolent president.
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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2012, 09:13:24 AM »
In response to the thread title: we're f**ked.

After McCain snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, I guess I am still somewhat pessimistic.

I just can't shake that feeling of dread I had when Dole lost, Monica Lewinsky's boyfriend was reelected and the leash that was put on Palin.

I will be glad when its all over and pray the "W" is in the Republican column this time.

Icing on the cake would be a nice House gain and a take over of the Senate even by the slimiest of margins.


With f**king idiot (R)'s making rape and abortion comments, it really has made me ask what and the sam freaking hill are they thinking to say it in the first place and then my very next thought is do they really truly believe what they are saying? which is as scary as listening to the likes of Nanzy Reed and Hairy Pelozi.

It is what it is. And will be what it will be.

God help us.

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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 07:14:39 AM »
Mitt whould win big, it shouldn't even be close, but close is what all the asshat pundits and pollsters are saying today...pure Democrat-Media Complex bovine excrement!

Obama can stay in power only two ways - Massive electoral fraud or assuming dictatorial power, he loses in any fair straight up fight.

But, if the impossible and unthinkable were to occur, I'm gone baby!
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2012, 11:33:20 AM »
We might have to see if our new forum friend from Canada has room for a few refugees. :)

I honestly have no idea what to expect over the next few days.  I am also concerned about the Senate.  We are in a position where we have to run the table to have any chance of preventing a long slide into Euro style socialism.

I don't know what I am going to do if the people of this country decide to twist the knife they already plunged into our heart in 2008. It should be clear to everyone that working for a living will be a fool's game.  The order of the day should be to stop being productive, and instead shift gears into consuming what you have to provide as much escapist comfort for yourself as possible. There will be no point in working for delayed gratification or something as nebulous as "the future", because there isn't going to be a future.

Just try to enjoy yourself as much as possible until grassroots activism inevitably turns into brassroots activism.
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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2012, 11:49:40 AM »
Agreed.  I told my liberal friends flat out back in the mid-80's that there is no way I will EVER live in a socialist state, I told them that if that dark day ever happened here in America that I would NOT work anymore, better to crash the system I thought than to let it live one more day longer than it should.  And here I am a quarter century later ready willing and able to execute that promise.

Funny how stuff happens.  I bet those morons thought I was just full of sh*t.  We'll see what they think once it happens.

May the brassroots activism be passionate and widespread.

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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2012, 11:54:16 AM »
Firearms sales through the roof on November 7th. Ditto ammo.

Riots somewhere when he loses, though.
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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2012, 10:54:53 PM »
Okay.  Now's the time for this thread.  And May God have Mercy on us.
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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2012, 11:01:00 PM »
Okay.  Now's the time for this thread.  And May God have Mercy on us.


Yes.

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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2012, 11:05:58 PM »
America

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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2012, 11:21:39 PM »
The big lesson for me tonight was that we now have proof of what we previously only suspected: the takers do in fact outnumber the makers. A majority of the people in this country (I won't call them countrymen or fellow citizens, because they are neither) believe they have the right to hire the government to loot you on their own behalf.

So we know the score, and that's something. Harden your hearts against these others among us. Steel yourselves to be indifferent to their sufferings. You will need it for what is surely to come.

Otherwise, is there anything true tonight that wasn't true yesterday? I mean there is a certain finality to the act, yes, but the coming destruction was already set in motion anyway.
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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2012, 11:24:50 PM »
The big lesson for me tonight was that we now have proof of what we previously only suspected: the takers do in fact outnumber the makers. A majority of the people in this country (I won't call them countrymen or fellow citizens, because they are neither) believe they have the right to hire the government to loot you on their own behalf.

So we know the score, and that's something. Harden your hearts against these others among us. Steel yourselves to be indifferent to their sufferings. You will need it for what is surely to come.

Otherwise, is there anything true tonight that wasn't true yesterday? I mean there is a certain finality to the act, yes, but the coming destruction was already set in motion anyway.


Just our willingness to hope. Other than that, no.
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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 11:26:03 PM »
my youngest is in tears
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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2012, 11:27:46 PM »
my youngest is in tears

Sorry, LV.  At least your youngest realizes there's something worth crying over.  The Left, on the other hand, is cheering.
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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2012, 11:38:37 PM »
my youngest is in tears

Sorry, LV.  At least your youngest realizes there's something worth crying over.  The Left, on the other hand, is cheering.

I was handling it pretty well until she started. 

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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2012, 11:41:30 PM »
Then cry with her, to validate her, and your, righteous feeling of loss.  Then, big girl pants time.  We have work to do.  I don't know what kind of work yet, but we are not without Purpose.  Maybe just to preach for the benefit of the Remnant.
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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2012, 11:54:01 PM »
Then cry with her, to validate her, and your, righteous feeling of loss.  Then, big girl pants time.  We have work to do.  I don't know what kind of work yet, but we are not without Purpose.  Maybe just to preach for the benefit of the Remnant.

Mine (8 and 10)  knew something had changed.  They were worried we would move to NZ. I guess its a possibilty, but I don't see te point. The end is in sight.  Collpase.  Rebuild.  That is what we do.

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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2012, 12:01:56 AM »
Then cry with her, to validate her, and your, righteous feeling of loss.  Then, big girl pants time.  We have work to do.  I don't know what kind of work yet, but we are not without Purpose.  Maybe just to preach for the benefit of the Remnant.

I know you are right.

But I'm sick to my stomach right now.

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Re: The "if Obama wins" thread
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2012, 12:16:38 AM »
Okay.  Now's the time for this thread.  And May God have Mercy on us.

Unfortunately, and I have said this before in one of my darker moments, God is not having mercy on us* and isn't likely to start any time soon. God is, instead, judging our nation and meting out punishment.

We are a nation that has God's name on our currency. We have His Ten Commandments carved into the building that holds our highest court. We use His name in our Pledge of Allegiance. And yet, we mock Him with our actions and with our words. We have been killing the innocent for decades and the death toll is in the millions. We sanction the "marriage" of those who practice what He has declared is an abomination. We have turned our backs on His chosen people.

We are fallen. We are now a post-Judeo/Christian nation. And unless we repent and turn from our wickedness we will continue to be judged and punished. For now He has delivered us into the hands of our destroyer.

*and by "us" I am referring to us as a nation. If you meant us personally as individuals then I wholeheartedly agree...May God have mercy on us because our president will most definitely not. May God also deliver us from evil. Have you ever noticed that popular culture (especially Hollywood) seems to overwhelmingly believe in Satan but imagines God as someone who just isn't really there? That's our nation. We are very good at portraying God as irrelevant while showing Satan as being pretty darned powerful. And here we are.

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