Topic: The "if Obama wins" thread

[trapeze]

I suppose our first clue was in 1996 when we re-elected a known and proven liar. A known and proven sex offender and serial adulterer. When our senate refused to convict him for a very obvious crime, perjury.

That was the first clue that our nation was sick. But we ignored it. We pretended that it didn't matter, that it was an aberration, an anomaly.

I am sure that many years from now it will all be crystal clear as to our downfall, how it happened, when and where.

*sigh*

I am going to hit the sack. This is one of the more depressing days of my life. Everything that I have insisted on believing about my country has been undeniably proven wrong. I can't ignore it anymore.

I guess it had to end sometime.

[Glock32]

I agree trap.  In the days before the election I prayed to God to deliver us from wickedness and licentiousness, acknowledging that we have all (to some extent) been guilty of tolerating it, and even as I made the request I knew we deserved nothing but His judgment.

We profane His name by daring to include it in our nation's symbols, even as we officially countenance the murder of innocents by their millions every single year. This nation deserves a reckoning of Biblical proportions.

[AlanS]

WTF? I got to bed and wake up to this nightmare?

[Pandora]

Sorry, Alan.  We tried.

[LadyVirginia]

I agree trap.  In the days before the election I prayed to God to deliver us from wickedness and licentiousness, acknowledging that we have all (to some extent) been guilty of tolerating it, and even as I made the request I knew we deserved nothing but His judgment.

We profane His name by daring to include it in our nation's symbols, even as we officially countenance the murder of innocents by their millions every single year. This nation deserves a reckoning of Biblical proportions.

God has mercy and millions were praying.  People were praying and saying they were like I've never heard before.

And God heard us.  But his answer wasn't what we wanted.

I've been fearful for years of what we as a nation will get for killing millions of unborn babies.  And now we have same sex couples.   


We watched on tv as Terry Shiavo died.  We watch shows and movies that showcase disgusting behavior.  Our public schools are test tubes of filth.  We've accepted it all because no one wants their morals questioned. 

I believe those Biblical proportions are coming. 

[Glock32]

It's late but I can't go to sleep.  I am somehow afraid of sleep, because it's as if going to sleep and waking up in the morning cements what has just happened tonight, makes it real.

It is such a strange, alienating feeling to be fairly young (30s) in my supposedly prime years and to be hit with the realization that I have no future in this country. Not only will ambition and hard work be penalized and villainized, I don't want to make any contributions even if I can.

I saw a comment over at Ace of Spades that captures how I think we are all feeling right now -- "I now know exactly how Charleton Heston felt at the end of Planet of the Apes."

[LadyVirginia]

It's late but I can't go to sleep.  I am somehow afraid of sleep, because it's as if going to sleep and waking up in the morning cements what has just happened tonight, makes it real.

It is such a strange, alienating feeling to be fairly young (30s) in my supposedly prime years and to be hit with the realization that I have no future in this country. Not only will ambition and hard work be penalized and villainized, I don't want to make any contributions even if I can.

I saw a comment over at Ace of Spades that captures how I think we are all feeling right now -- "I now know exactly how Charleton Heston felt at the end of Planet of the Apes."

I know exactly what you mean.  I can't sleep either and I will be totally useless tomorrow today.  But I cleared my calendar for tomorrow today--I was either going to be celebrating the whole day or consoling myself.  It's weird--I had moments where I thought we just might get a chance to right things BUT I also had this foreboding I tried to ignore.  I heard a Romney commercial the other day and at the end when he said I'm Mitt Romney and I'm running for president I was overcome by the sense of something never meant to be.

I just think that we've had one thing after another and it keeps building. I really think we will see out in the open suffering in the years to come.  If what happened in Benghazi and 23 million out of work, etc isn't enough to shake people then what is there?  The answer scares me.

[Glock32]

I think that has been part of the problem, lack of real suffering. There has been a disconnect between cause and effect.  In previous generations, long term high unemployment would have been resulting in people losing everything they had, standing in soup lines, real 1930s type stuff. This time around, they've had 2 years of unemployment checks conveniently deposited directly into their bank account. The amount of money in many cases was enough to deter the recipient from taking anything other than an ideal job.  Rush has alluded to it several times by saying "people aren't working but they're not starving".

The merits of this arrangement can be debated, but the overall point is people are allowed to continue making bad policy decisions because they aren't feeling the consequences of failure. More of the infantilization of the populace. But, and it's a critical but, it's just another unsustainable band aid. Just like $16T in debt won't always be serviced at 0% interest rates, they can't keep insulating people with never ending unemployment checks and food stamps.

Ugh. I think I am taking a sick day. Why bother going to work at all anymore.

[LadyVirginia]

I think that has been part of the problem, lack of real suffering. There has been a disconnect between cause and effect.  In previous generations, long term high unemployment would have been resulting in people losing everything they had, standing in soup lines, real 1930s type stuff. This time around, they've had 2 years of unemployment checks conveniently deposited directly into their bank account. The amount of money in many cases was enough to deter the recipient from taking anything other than an ideal job.  Rush has alluded to it several times by saying "people aren't working but they're not starving".

The merits of this arrangement can be debated, but the overall point is people are allowed to continue making bad policy decisions because they aren't feeling the consequences of failure. More of the infantilization of the populace. But, and it's a critical but, it's just another unsustainable band aid. Just like $16T in debt won't always be serviced at 0% interest rates, they can't keep insulating people with never ending unemployment checks and food stamps.

Ugh. I think I am taking a sick day. Why bother going to work at all anymore.

to gather what you can until the time when what you make no longer outweighs the burden of working

[AlanS]

Sorry, Alan.  We tried.

We all did. Evidently the 51% majority are now the parasites.

[Sectionhand]

Sorry, Alan.  We tried.

We all did. Evidently the 51% majority are now the parasites.

As much as I detest Bill O'Reilly , that was his assessment last night and I have to agree with him .

[ToddF]

I suppose our first clue was in 1996 when we re-elected a known and proven liar. A known and proven sex offender and serial adulterer.

I was thinking exactly that.  Add to it, the elevation to rape, and how he's still celebrated by Democrat women.  That was when the countdown started.  It was only a matter of time.  Bush's performance accelerated that clock.

[ToddF]

This is one of the more depressing days of my life.

Days?  Last Tuesday I put my cat of 12 years to sleep, after a brief illness.  This Tuesday...?  Nice way to sandwich a week.

[Glock32]

I suppose our first clue was in 1996 when we re-elected a known and proven liar. A known and proven sex offender and serial adulterer.

I was thinking exactly that.  Add to it, the elevation to rape, and how he's still celebrated by Democrat women.  That was when the countdown started.  It was only a matter of time.  Bush's performance accelerated that clock.

I can't help but consider a lot of this to be the true George W. Bush legacy.  I could see how 2008 was going to end up, starting around 2005-06 when the narrative really became firmly established about him. I knew the winning candidate in 2008 would almost certainly be whoever was not the Republican, that being their only required qualification, and that the Democrats had a golden opportunity to nominate the most liberal leftist. They did and that's what we got.

This is one of the more depressing days of my life.

Days?  Last Tuesday I put my cat of 12 years to sleep, after a brief illness.  This Tuesday...?  Nice way to sandwich a week.

Very sorry to hear that. Pets are family members and one of life's biggest injustices is that they don't live as long as we do. May your pet rest peacefully.

[ToddF]

Thanks.  Saturday I noticed she wasn't as active, Sunday she was in the "meat loaf" position most of the day.  Monday I got the bad news from the vet.  Tuesday they called with a blood test with the worst kidney readings they've ever seen in a cat that was still alive, and that was that.  One week later America died.

[Libertas]

This sucks.  I didn't sleep well, not even the bourbon helped, I tossed and turned all damn night...wondering wtf is wrong with people, wondering how fast I can sell all my crap and not work, just hasten to collapse of this terminally diseased nation...

The "Free Shyt!" party is triumphant, we can expect full implementation of ObamaCare, higher taxes are a certainty, as are increased regulation in to every aspect of our personal and economic life, the debt will soar...that crying pussy Boehner might as well introduce legislation to raise the fricken debt ceiling to $100T and just let everybody spend like drunken maniacs and kill this sorry ass state.

Only fire can purify this contagion, and fire is coming, bank on it.

[Glock32]

Right now Glenn Beck is trying to do some grandiose comparison to Washington and his troops encountering hardship, and I can't even listen to it. This is not some hardship, no the people of this country have freely chosen this path.

I don't even see the point of Rush and others continuing their shows. If I were Rush I would take my substantial wealth and GTFO while I can.

There's no coming back from this one.

[Libertas]

Beck and his pacifism piss me off.  Take up arms, help lead Texas and other states to withdraw from the union or STFU!

If I were Rush I would come on the air and encourage seccession, but he's too optimistic to go that route, he'll muddle along.

I'd like to hear what Mark Levin & Jason Lewis have to say.

I want rebellion, but I expect nothing but cowardice, latter day American's have pissed away their heritage and principles...I'm starting to detatch myself from giving a damn what happens next...

[Pandora]

I just walked outside to pay the lawn-guy - he's blowing the leaves now instead of mowing -- and he unloaded; "I'm so upset.  I'm usually a soft-spoken Southern man, but I, I just don't understand people.  Four more years of this; FOUR MORE YEARS.  I just don't understand people.  Fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice ....  I'm upset, my wife's upset, my two sons are upset, he's upset (gesturing at the young man working with him) and he's biracial!  He's more conservative than I am and he's always arguing with his family .... they're all liberals, y'know ....... I'm sorry, I'm sorry for unloading on y'all".

Gunsmith had come outside at some point, so he was standing there nodding.  I took the man's hand, and I couldn't help it, I just started to cry.

So sorry about your puss, 'Hawk.

[Weisshaupt]

This sucks.  I didn't sleep well, not even the bourbon helped, I tossed and turned all damn night...wondering wtf is wrong with people, wondering how fast I can sell all my crap and not work, just hasten to collapse of this terminally diseased nation...

The "Free Shyt!" party is triumphant, we can expect full implementation of ObamaCare, higher taxes are a certainty, as are increased regulation in to every aspect of our personal and economic life, the debt will soar...that crying pussy Boehner might as well introduce legislation to raise the fricken debt ceiling to $100T and just let everybody spend like drunken maniacs and kill this sorry ass state.

Only fire can purify this contagion, and fire is coming, bank on it.

I had to buy small bottles of Jameson last night.  Liquor store was out of the bigger bottles.
I watched Blues Brothers with the kids- and sadly I am not as upset now as I was the day they upheld Obamacare. 
I guess I have gone trhough my stages of grief over the past few years and I have accepted it. Maybe its just that there is no more worry.  We now know.  Its scorthed earth socialism  from here on in, and History WILL play out as it has in the past.   Because of that we know what is coming. We know what we must do.  There is no more Hedging the bets, wondering if we were wrong, or  depending on false hopes.  However, do not think that  the country really went against us. The Democrats cheated. They always cheat.  In some places the cheating was blatant.  IN some places fewer Republicans voted than they did in the 2010 or 2008 elections.  Does anyone think that is possible.  They lie. They Cheat. They Steal. and they think they are clever because they do so. After all, its only wrong if there is a consequence, and there won't be with Holder Justice.

The only rational course is to Go Galt,  and the go on the Dole (if you can stomach it)  Why work when you can hike, fish, hunt, and spend time with your family and live nearly as well as you do now? Can't save for retirement?  You can't if you are working ether.   Can't take that trip to Europe? Did you really still want to go? The reason you rarely see mega-rich conservatives is because MOST of us decide  that we don't NEED that much.  We don't enjoy or want  the power. And while everyone point is different, after one has that first million or two in the bank, I think most decide that they  are comfortable enough and devote their attention to other things.

The only question is how many have reached that point where they understand further advancement is not possible, and how many others  Beck, Limbaugh, etc will encourage to muster on (because if we loose interest in the politics, they loose their jobs)  The movement might be massive.. lots of people moving IRAs, and taking cash out could even cause a  bank run..  I very well might take 10K out in cash today just because. . How many will close businesses, cut back on hours, or just stop working hard?  How many will pick up and move to NZ and other places? Capital flight is real, and there are no points of light to cling to now. There is no stopping them. They will try and stop the engine of the world and return us to poverty.