Topic: Obama Wins: What To Do Next

[Pandora]

Personally I would rather move somewhere colder. The harsh winter has always been a superb selective force on the development of populations. I see winter as still having the capacity to deter the looter class, particularly when Leviathan's social infrastructure crumbles.

I hope the civil war begins sooner rather than later.  My fear, as also mentioned in Pandora's earlier post, is that if we have too much time go by, the younger generation will literally have known things no other way.

This is why we need to collect history books (real ones, not Howard Zinn versions) and preach -- for the Remnant.

It's astounding to me that people who have only recently read the Constitution are shocked by its contents, as though to say "who could live that way?" because they're already propagandized into believing without government meddling in everything, we'd perish.

[Libertas]

We didn't vote for revenge, but we can exact it on those who did...I like it!

My employer is libiot-run, all for ObamaCare...I should hurl myself down the stairwell and sue 'em silly...

Go for the sexual harassment charge. Less pain. More fun. More personal.

Heh.

[benb61]

It is up to us to instill in our children the values of our founding fathers.  Public schools do not.  I have been having conversations with my 16 year old regarding freedom and God given rights.  I also had a conversation about elections not being popularity contests, I used his prom king and queen as an example of a popularity contest and how people will vote for someone not based on how best that person will govern but on whether they will be able to say later that they "voted for the winner".

[LadyVirginia]

It is up to us to instill in our children the values of our founding fathers.  Public schools do not.  I have been having conversations with my 16 year old regarding freedom and God given rights.  I also had a conversation about elections not being popularity contests, I used his prom king and queen as an example of a popularity contest and how people will vote for someone not based on how best that person will govern but on whether they will be able to say later that they "voted for the winner".

yep, having the same conversations with my kids

And, Pan,  I've been saving printed books and plan to add more.  Not sure where I'm putting them.  But have to be careful because the progressives got started over a century ago and some "old" books are infected

My oldest is planning on writing a book on the history of one of our family lines.  She's writing it from the perspective of how this family as it grew was an example of what happened in America and how their lives were examples of the principles we believe in and how they worked for that family.  She will place the family through time in context of what was happening in the US at the time.

[Pandora]

It is up to us to instill in our children the values of our founding fathers.  Public schools do not.  I have been having conversations with my 16 year old regarding freedom and God given rights.  I also had a conversation about elections not being popularity contests, I used his prom king and queen as an example of a popularity contest and how people will vote for someone not based on how best that person will govern but on whether they will be able to say later that they "voted for the winner".

yep, having the same conversations with my kids

And, Pan,  I've been saving printed books and plan to add more.  Not sure where I'm putting them.  But have to be careful because the progressives got started over a century ago and some "old" books are infected

My oldest is planning on writing a book on the history of one of our family lines.  She's writing it from the perspective of how this family as it grew was an example of what happened in America and how their lives were examples of the principles we believe in and how they worked for that family.  She will place the family through time in context of what was happening in the US at the time.

You have a remarkable daughter, LV, just like her mother.

[Glock32]

Like I said in another post, for me "It's About Liberty" now equates to "It's About Survival". That is all I care to discuss now.  Discussion of politics could not be emptier now.

One thing that concerns me is communication. We are so dependent on networks of electronic communication, and all of those things could be shut off virtually with the push of Leviathan's button. One thing that interests me is using wireless ethernet devices in a peer to peer relay network. You can replace the firmware on some devices to make them more like universal repeaters.

Reminds me of the old days of dial up BBSes.  I used to run one that had a sort of precursor to Internet forums like this, called FidoNet. Basically each BBS was a unique node, and it would periodically dial up another BBS that functioned as the relay for a particular area. In turn it would dial up other relays. Systems all over the world participated in messaging this way. So if someone in Europe replied to a post in a group, it would eventually filter its way into every other participating system for an ultimately synchronized content for everyone who subscribed to that particular group. It wasn't near instant like the Internet, but usually within 24 hours it would complete its global distribution. There's a way to make wireless access points talk to each other this way, without any of them having an uplink to any other networks.

Alternate communication strategies.  Discuss.

[Pandora]

Like I said in another post, for me "It's About Liberty" now equates to "It's About Survival". That is all I care to discuss now.  Discussion of politics could not be emptier now.

One thing that concerns me is communication. We are so dependent on networks of electronic communication, and all of those things could be shut off virtually with the push of Leviathan's button. One thing that interests me is using wireless ethernet devices in a peer to peer relay network. You can replace the firmware on some devices to make them more like universal repeaters.

Reminds me of the old days of dial up BBSes.  I used to run one that had a sort of precursor to Internet forums like this, called FidoNet. Basically each BBS was a unique node, and it would periodically dial up another BBS that functioned as the relay for a particular area. In turn it would dial up other relays. Systems all over the world participated in messaging this way. So if someone in Europe replied to a post in a group, it would eventually filter its way into every other participating system for an ultimately synchronized content for everyone who subscribed to that particular group. It wasn't near instant like the Internet, but usually within 24 hours it would complete its global distribution. There's a way to make wireless access points talk to each other this way, without any of them having an uplink to any other networks.

Alternate communication strategies.  Discuss.

Ham radio, I'd say.  What kind of range does CB have?

[RickZ]

What kind of range does CB have?

It's a low power communication system so the range is quite limited.

[Pandora]

What kind of range does CB have?

It's a low power communication system so the range is quite limited.

No power boosting possible?

[RickZ]

http://www.nat-com.org/cbfaq.htm

--SNIP--

How far can I reach on my CB?

Once again this is a pretty open question. All things being the same you can expect anywhere between 1 and 15 miles between mobile units. There are all sorts of variables, including terrain, how crowded the channel is, or even types and numbers of buildings around the transmitting/receiving units. Base stations can expect about 5 to 10 miles between base and mobile and 10 to 30 miles between base units.

--SNIP--

Am I allowed to use a linear amplilfiere?

Absolutely not. CB radios are only permitted to operate at 5 watts (input) which is about 4 watts out. Using any additional power is illegal and can many times cause interference to your neighbor's electronics appliances including such things as TVs, VCRs, Stereos, and even telephones. It will not make you popular with your neighbors to say the least, and since you are operating illegally, they could file a complaint against your operations.

--SNIP--

I'm sure the power can be boosted. But I would think you'd want better communication capability at over 30 miles, which is not all that far.  CBs may be good for a small network of localized people, but at 30 miles, they'd probably join up for added strength.

[Pandora]

http://www.nat-com.org/cbfaq.htm

--SNIP--

How far can I reach on my CB?

Once again this is a pretty open question. All things being the same you can expect anywhere between 1 and 15 miles between mobile units. There are all sorts of variables, including terrain, how crowded the channel is, or even types and numbers of buildings around the transmitting/receiving units. Base stations can expect about 5 to 10 miles between base and mobile and 10 to 30 miles between base units.

--SNIP--

Am I allowed to use a linear amplilfiere?

Absolutely not. CB radios are only permitted to operate at 5 watts (input) which is about 4 watts out. Using any additional power is illegal and can many times cause interference to your neighbor's electronics appliances including such things as TVs, VCRs, Stereos, and even telephones. It will not make you popular with your neighbors to say the least, and since you are operating illegally, they could file a complaint against your operations.

--SNIP--

I'm sure the power can be boosted. But I would think you'd want better communication capability at over 30 miles, which is not all that far.  CBs may be good for a small network of localized people, but at 30 miles, they'd probably join up for added strength.

What/who would "probably join up for added strength"?

In any case, good; the power can be boosted for closer-in; HAM for longer distances, and I don't give a good goldammy what "they" say about illegal.  TSHTF, my neighbors won't be watching TV or filing any complaints.

[LadyVirginia]

My daughter doesn't function well in extreme heat so she's not interested in Texas for that reason.  She actually functions better in the cold though so that's a plus in terms of survival as mentioned earlier.  I can't tell you how significant it is that my husband would even discuss moving.


Tell me about ham radios.  On occassion I've thought about it but never stop to really look into it.  I'm not electronically savvy but then I'm not stupid either and I can learn.

Thanks for the compliment,Pan. I look at it as proof that what I believe and have taught my children actually works.

[Alphabet Soup]

When I bought my home in '08 I had lots of offers to help move but somehow when the rubber hit the road I found myself alone. So each night after work I would load the van and make another trip. The appliances and sofa were a bear but I got r done.

I can do it again if need be.

PS: I worked for an outfit that sold linear amplifiers for CD radios back in the 80's. We did a big business to Alaska, Idaho, and Montana. There's nothing to hooking one up and you use the CD in the same fashion. Just don't get caught with one.

(not in the age of Øbomination at any rate)

[Pandora]

My daughter doesn't function well in extreme heat so she's not interested in Texas for that reason.  She actually functions better in the cold though so that's a plus in terms of survival as mentioned earlier.  I can't tell you how significant it is that my husband would even discuss moving.


Tell me about ham radios.  On occassion I've thought about it but never stop to really look into it.  I'm not electronically savvy but then I'm not stupid either and I can learn.

Thanks for the compliment,Pan. I look at it as proof that what I believe and have taught my children actually works.

You're welcome, LV.

There's some information about HAM radios in the mess I hastily transferred from the IAF to here, but I will start a new thread on communication in the TEOTWAWKI section and hope Radioman contributes what he knows.

[Pandora]

When I bought my home in '08 I had lots of offers to help move but somehow when the rubber hit the road I found myself alone. So each night after work I would load the van and make another trip. The appliances and sofa were a bear but I got r done.

I can do it again if need be.

PS: I worked for an outfit that sold linear amplifiers for CD radios back in the 80's. We did a big business to Alaska, Idaho, and Montana. There's nothing to hooking one up and you use the CD in the same fashion. Just don't get caught with one.

(not in the age of Øbomination at any rate)

I can't count the numbers of folks we helped to move and I didn't mind at all. (Guess who got the job of directing the loading of the truck?  That's right, me, because we'd moved so many times, I knew how to do it so nothing got broken.)  I'll tell you one thing; most people pack to move like 'my sistah's azz', which in Italian-speak means they don't know how to do it and don't know they don't know.

If you feel inclined, we'd appreciate you dropping what you know about comms into the new thread.

[Alphabet Soup]

We just elected a democratic house and senate to go along with a major loony lefty governor. We are now a deep blue state.  I am screwed!

I live in the heart of St. Paul and we have no, none, zip, zero, nada elected republicans in office in this socialist city and the @#$*% residents of St. Paul just voted on raising taxes again for the St. Paul Schools. My property taxes are absurd even though the housing market is stagnant the powers to be thought I did not pay enough taxes and the #$%^%@*$ hit me hard.

Washington state elected every leftist on the ballot. I haven't had anyone representing me for 20 years. We had an excellent chance of electing the first pubbie governor since about 1984 and the milquetoast blew it. We had virtually everyone in the state party telling him to pull his head out and he just ignore us. Loser POS.

[IronDioPriest]

We just elected a democratic house and senate to go along with a major loony lefty governor. We are now a deep blue state.  I am screwed!

I live in the heart of St. Paul and we have no, none, zip, zero, nada elected republicans in office in this socialist city and the @#$*% residents of St. Paul just voted on raising taxes again for the St. Paul Schools. My property taxes are absurd even though the housing market is stagnant the powers to be thought I did not pay enough taxes and the #$%^%@*$ hit me hard.

Washington state elected every leftist on the ballot. I haven't had anyone representing me for 20 years. We had an excellent chance of electing the first pubbie governor since about 1984 and the milquetoast blew it. We had virtually everyone in the state party telling him to pull his head out and he just ignore us. Loser POS.

Yeah. But then... Dino Rossi won twice, and he still lost.

[RickZ]

Logging out.  So long and see you around.  Take care and good luck.

[AlanS]

Louisiana. Sales tax (varies parish to parish) at my house is 8.75%. Does have a state income tax (currently around 3%). Property tax: The first $75k is non taxable, making it tolerable. If you live south of I-10, though, you're gonna think coon-asses talk funny.

[Sectionhand]

Louisiana. Sales tax (varies parish to parish) at my house is 8.75%. Does have a state income tax (currently around 3%). Property tax: The first $75k is non taxable, making it tolerable. If you live south of I-10, though, you're gonna think coon-asses talk funny.

I lived soth of I-10 ... Between Highland Rd and Perkins to be exact !