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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #220 on: May 29, 2014, 01:00:08 PM »
These numbers are always revised a few months later. Unemployment figures, earnings, whatever. Wasn't it originally reported as a dismal +0.15% or something like that?  I knew even that was bogus and that it would later come out that it was in fact negative growth. And the -real- numbers are even worse than the official figures.

As always, the real story is that we have no media. There's no one there to question the official narrative or point out inconsistencies. The media exist only to promote the agenda of the Democrat party, that's it. They breathlessly repeat these figures, then a few months later when they're quietly revised the media will spit out some perfunctory blurb about it like it's not big deal.

They know exactly what they're doing too, and that is why they must pay when things go extracurricular.
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #221 on: May 29, 2014, 02:51:02 PM »
Still more

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Personal income tax receipts in April were below year-ago levels in 27 of 32 states where data were available, Reuters reported. The average decline was 12.4%. Tax planning ahead of the ’13 federal tax hikes, like booking capital gains at the lower ’12 rate, helps explain the drop. Some states expected as much, but others like N.J. are now faced with budget cuts.

Meanwhile business starts are falling, exits increasing ( Brookings)



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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #222 on: May 30, 2014, 06:43:51 AM »
It's the weather...it's Republican's...it's a SNAFU by some minor bureaucrat...it's capitalism...it's NEVER THEM!

They're all gonna pay G, every damn one of them...one way or another...
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #223 on: May 30, 2014, 07:59:07 AM »
 ::saywhat::

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-29/thursday-humor-gdp-grossly-dubious-projections

 ::hysterical::

Everything is awesome!

I mean it would be, if not for weather (humans), Republicans (humans), the Tea Party (humans), capitalists (humans)...
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #224 on: May 30, 2014, 08:09:45 AM »
Oh, and how Britain calculates hooker activity...

60,879 Prostitutes x 25 Clients Per Week x £67.16 Per Visit

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-29/how-britain-calculates-its-hooker-gdp-boost-60879-prostitutes-x-25-clients-week-x-%C2%A36

 ::thinking::

That's a little over $112/client serviced at the current exchange rate.  I have no idea how that compares to average rates for our hookers, perhaps it is a bit cheap, but given the state of dental care there...say our girls are worth $150/client...we have to have a boatload more working girls than they...say 250k...assume the same visit per week number...that's $937.5m/week - $48.75B/year!  That's some boost!

Wait, places like Nevada though where it is legal must already be reported, so the number actually would be less for us...still, hookers, drugs...it's the GDP's future!
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #225 on: June 01, 2014, 09:20:40 PM »
::saywhat::

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-29/thursday-humor-gdp-grossly-dubious-projections

 ::hysterical::

Everything is awesome!

I mean it would be, if not for weather (humans), Republicans (humans), the Tea Party (humans), capitalists (humans)...
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #226 on: June 02, 2014, 10:02:37 AM »
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #227 on: June 05, 2014, 07:26:03 AM »
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-05/-cuts-soar-45-most-layoffs-feb-2013

Layoffs surge...certainly this has to be trumpeted as a complete success by the PTBs!
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #228 on: June 06, 2014, 12:55:42 PM »
92 million not working...

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meyer/372-percentage-not-labor-force-remains-36-year-high

...sustainable?  Sure, what's the worst that could happen?
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #229 on: June 16, 2014, 05:20:33 AM »
Confirmed in FT Story - Central Banks invested (at least ) 29 Trillion in stocks

So there is another Confirmed Conspiracy Theory Fact.
Of course the ZH crowd comments go all Aelx Jones - blaming the cabal of bankers that a re maliciously trying to "own everything"
I doubt the rule of law survives the upheaval  of the currency collapse -- "owning" will only have meaning if you (or your personal private army)  can stand over it with an AR..and armies have to be paid with something..

I think its more likely that the the Banksters and other politicians and cronies  know the end is coming, so they are just being more brazen in their looting - to get as much as they can and help their own before the bottom falls out. If I gave you a credit line with the fed - one you knew would never come due..because the Fed considered you Too Big Too Fail,   what would you be doing with that 0% interest loan?

So you will continue to see company earnings continue to fall, and company stock evaluations continue to rise. Yes the banks will "own everything" including a lot of worthless paper of equity in defunct companies. Its all extend and pretend.

There was a bit of a comment war if shorting the inevitable collapse is wise (yeah a bunch of people are trying to make money this way still)  Its going to go up, till it doesn't, and its a big crap shoot when, but I will "make money" just as money becomes worthless by shorting. Though I guess you could pay off dollar denominated debts with it if you were in the know. ..

Tick Tock.  Tick Tock.

I do wonder how long we have.. saw one comment on a PJ Media article suggesting that collapse won't happen till 2050-2080, because we can sell 200 trillion in US Assets ( Federal Land, Offshore drilling rights )  -  . As Michelle pointed out to me: If a farmer owes you a debt, and he sells his tractor to make a payment, does that give you more or less confidence he can make the next one?  Argentina tried that and they collapsed again a few years later.. and now own none of their natural resources. .. not to say it won't happen here as a kick the can measure.. but again there is that - "who will buy it and how will they assert they own it when rule of law fails?" problem .. I just don't see it buying decades.  If it doesn't completely spook everyone and cause a watershed panic , it would buy time, but it won't address the underlying issues - the debt will get bigger, 250 Trillion in CDS overhang would still be there, GDP will continue to fall, and foreign powers will continue to drop the dollar as a means of international trade.

I am still betting on 2-5 years before another "Lehman" magnitude event - confiscation of 401Ks, Capital controls, introduction of blue dollars/SDRs or whatever.. .  The whole system may not collapse - on paper anyway - till 2050 or even 2080, as after all the whole point is presenting the illusion of a working system..and people are pretty stupid, and may continue to believe  in it that long. But over time more and more people- especially foreigners who have minimal investment in the status quo,   are quietly following Neo  and  leaving the matrix... and at some point the matrix just doesn't matter anymore with so few paying attention. The real point is the  average American will have no savings and be reduced to  living a 3rd world lifestyle within the decade.  So when do we say  the "collapse" happened?  I am still going with 2008  - and its all been smoke and mirrors since then.

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #230 on: June 16, 2014, 07:42:13 AM »
 
I think its more likely that the the Banksters and other politicians and cronies  know the end is coming, so they are just being more brazen in their looting - to get as much as they can and help their own before the bottom falls out.

Yup, they'll manipulate and fleece till they day they die.

So you will continue to see company earnings continue to fall, and company stock evaluations continue to rise. Yes the banks will "own everything" including a lot of worthless paper of equity in defunct companies. Its all extend and pretend.

Yup, Kabuki all the way down.

There was a bit of a comment war if shorting the inevitable collapse is wise (yeah a bunch of people are trying to make money this way still)  Its going to go up, till it doesn't, and its a big crap shoot when, but I will "make money" just as money becomes worthless by shorting. Though I guess you could pay off dollar denominated debts with it if you were in the know. ..

This is called the "Catch a falling turd" strategy.  Those employing it must truly love sh*t!

I am still betting on 2-5 years before another "Lehman" magnitude event - confiscation of 401Ks, Capital controls, introduction of blue dollars/SDRs or whatever.. .  The whole system may not collapse - on paper anyway - till 2050 or even 2080, as after all the whole point is presenting the illusion of a working system..and people are pretty stupid, and may continue to believe  in it that long.

I agree on the timing for the next Lehman event, but I would suggest that clock started in 2012, so ti could come as early as this fall.  Total system collapse not until 2050?  I think that is a boatload of candy-sprinkles...even in a time when people are growing exponentially dumber by the second there is too much linkage and dead-weight to postpone the inevitable...we make it to 2025 intact I will be shocked.

So when do we say  the "collapse" happened?  I am still going with 2008  - and its all been smoke and mirrors since then.

Sure, the elevation of the Manchurian Candidate Barrack Hussein Obama, aka "The Destroyer of America" was the final piece to the nefarious effort to subvert and suborn America on an irreversable course to self-destruction...

I'd say that year was our Rubicon.
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #231 on: June 17, 2014, 07:02:40 AM »
CNBC...NY Slimes...pointy-headed libiot prof's...   ::mooning::

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101764568

...no mention of John Corzine?

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #232 on: June 17, 2014, 11:52:41 AM »
How's that go again...

"Everything is...umm...awesome?!"

Yeah, right...

Getting harder to hide the BS in the goobermint CPI

Housing starts worst since '08 collapse

Hourly wages dip some more

Capital controls for bond market?  Sure, just a corrupt SEC stamp away!

Yeah, awesome...if you're an idiot!

Need more Obamunism!  More Neo-Keynesianism!  More cronyism!  More Kabuki, damnit!

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #234 on: June 20, 2014, 08:17:10 AM »
De-dollarization continues.. with the UK joining the Mix.

Yeah, thats right. The UK.  You know, our closest allies no longer find it compelling to insist on doing trade in dollars.

Tick Tock. Tick Tock.

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #235 on: June 23, 2014, 07:19:57 AM »
A friend in nominal terms, yes, they are further down the progressive and muzzie appeasement rat hole than we, but yeah...when long time allies say "screw your fiat" the handwritting on the wall should be glowing in capital letters...

All that is missing now is repudiating US bonds/bills...then we could see some panic...
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #236 on: June 25, 2014, 07:59:26 AM »
-2.9%

Revised 1st quarter "growth"

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #238 on: June 25, 2014, 08:22:37 AM »
Holy crap!
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #239 on: June 25, 2014, 09:46:59 AM »
As an accountant...I can state that much of what the government does violates several laws that would put mere private individuals behind bars...

Unless of course you are John Corzine and cozy with other low-lifes in high political/bureaucratic places...

And as I alluded to back in the middle of this month ("getting harder to hide this crap!") and Weisshaupt so starkly points out (6 SD miss!)...this one wasn't even close...the wheels could be starting to fly off the cart...and these idiots aren't strong-bodied sprinters who can run and hold that cart up while trying to put the wheels back on...

This could be going tragically hilarious...

ETA - Man, I can't keep being so right, eh?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-25/here-reason-total-collapse-q1-gdp

 ::hysterical::

And...

Goldman sees 1Q as a fluke, which it was intended to be, but Goldman misreads why and doubles down and INCREASES 2Q from an insanely rosey 3.8% to a certain to miss in spectacular fashion 4%!!!

 ::laughonfloor::   ::rolllaughing::   ::hysterical::

Hey pal, how'd those durable goods sans trans do?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-25/durable-goods-orders-tumble-biggest-miss-2014

Whatchya gonna drive those estimates up to for 2Q?!

 ::mooning::



Another ETA -  This is good!

"Yellen's 'Noise'!"  Remember that phrase!!!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-25/janet-yellen-wrong-about-inflation

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