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The truth about Wolf ammo
« on: December 12, 2012, 09:10:26 AM »
The Truth About Wolf Ammo

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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2012, 09:24:54 AM »
One of the ranges I go to won't even let you shoot Wolf. They don't advertise why, but I've always assumed it was just because they collect left-behind brass, and don't want to have to sort out the steel casings.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2012, 11:15:11 AM »
Agreed, I too think it is the non-brass casings.  They don't like Blazer rounds either.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2012, 11:18:55 AM »
It's usually that or their belief in 3rd-hand information about it destroying range backstops (it won't). Some outdoor ranges in dry areas may have a good reason to prohibit ammo with steel in the jacket, since it can spark when it hits rocks and such. Even that is probably exaggerated. I recall the anti-gun forces tried to blame some forest fires this summer on recreational shooters.

I shoot Wolf in Eastern Bloc firearms, and it works fine. Generally among the cheap Russian fodder, I think Barnaul (the various Bear brands) and Vympel (Golden Tiger) are better. I don't shoot it in any Western firearms. I don't think it would be a problem, it just feels too much like putting 87 octane price club gas in a Ferrari.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2012, 11:41:55 AM »
My Kimber will shoot anything just fine.  Some of the other 1911s -- Springfield -- don't like the steel casings.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2012, 12:09:11 PM »
What happens with the Springfield? Extraction problems?
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2012, 12:16:46 PM »
Quote from: Glock32 on December 12, 2012, 12:09:11 PM
What happens with the Springfield? Extraction problems?

Jams.  Won't fire.  I hate jams ... clearing them makes me anxious.

Otherwise, the Springfield is just fine with brass.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2012, 12:25:26 PM »
Yeah, I just stick with brass in the more refined Western guns. One of the main issues with steel cases is that they lack the elastic properties of brass, so after firing they don't spring back to size like brass. That can cause extraction issues in some guns, where the steel case is still tight against the chamber wall.

As for the AKs, they've never eaten anything but steel case stuff. I also like the lacquered primers and case mouths for long term storage.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2012, 12:40:09 PM »
Quote from: Glock32 on December 12, 2012, 12:25:26 PM
Yeah, I just stick with brass in the more refined Western guns. One of the main issues with steel cases is that they lack the elastic properties of brass, so after firing they don't spring back to size like brass. That can cause extraction issues in some guns, where the steel case is still tight against the chamber wall.

As for the AKs, they've never eaten anything but steel case stuff. I also like the lacquered primers and case mouths for long term storage.

I'm not clear on what you mean by "more refined Western guns".
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2012, 12:59:30 PM »
i.e. without the sloppy tolerances and machining often seen on the Eastern bloc guns.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2012, 07:30:59 PM »
  I read an article where my PX4 storm didn't like it so I never bought it.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2012, 11:33:56 AM »
If I have an opportunity this weekend, I will chronograph Wolf vs. Brown Bear vs. Golden Tiger.  I have heard that Wolf consistently comes in underpowered and less consistent.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2012, 08:41:02 PM »
I just bought a Ruger Mini-14 and the salesman said that it would eat any ammo with out a hiccup.  I asked specifically about Wolf ammo and he said his mini-14 has devoured more than 2000 rounds without as much as a burp.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2012, 08:56:14 PM »
It sounds like several of you have had an early Christmas. Congrats to all on your acquisitions!
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2012, 09:36:52 PM »
Waa.  I'm jealous.

Not really.  I have all I can use, need or want.

I had a friend lecture me on Saturday evening about my lack of desire for a more powerful rifle than my beloved M1 Carbine.

Fellas, I can't MANAGE a bigger rifle without a gun rest (okay, yeah; my biceps could use some work), so, by necessity, utility and accuracy, it's my go-to gun.  And because we (me and my M1) love each other, I'm betting I can do more damage with it than dealing with the prerequisite conditions for handling a bigger, more powerful rifle.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2012, 10:38:40 PM »
Plenty of Nazis and Imperial Japs became worm food courtesy of the humble M1 Carbine. Plus it has unique ties to North Carolina. They are interesting rifles. I've never fired one, but ballistically it's similar to a .357 Magnum.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2012, 10:46:13 PM »
Quote from: Glock32 on December 17, 2012, 10:38:40 PM
Plenty of Nazis and Imperial Japs became worm food courtesy of the humble M1 Carbine. Plus it has unique ties to North Carolina. They are interesting rifles. I've never fired one, but ballistically it's similar to a .357 Magnum.

Gunsmith and I have one each.  (I had mine first, nyah, nyah).  Get yer ass out here someday soon and we'll fix that "never fired one" and you'll see.  Sweeeeet.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2012, 11:09:21 PM »
Aren't we all supposed to move to eastern Tennessee?  Still gets my vote!  Out of curiosity, which factory made your M1s?  They were made by the most unlikely factories.  It's all very interesting stuff.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2012, 11:55:46 PM »
Quote from: Glock32 on December 17, 2012, 11:09:21 PM
Aren't we all supposed to move to eastern Tennessee?  Still gets my vote!  Out of curiosity, which factory made your M1s?  They were made by the most unlikely factories.  It's all very interesting stuff.

All?  Did I miss you casting your vote?

I dunno where we're going.  We're looking at TN and at OK.  Whereverthehell we end up, you're welcome.

I don't know which factory, Glock.  I can look at it and see.
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Re: The truth about Wolf ammo
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2012, 02:19:34 AM »
I tried that stuff with my AR and had extraction problems every time. After three or four rounds I gave up. I haven't tried it in my mini-14 yet but I'm guessing that it will handle them better.

And, no, I didn't buy the stuff. I inherited about a 1000 rounds from my brother-in-law when he passed away a couple of years back.
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