Topic: DHS buying more hollow points...

[Libertas]

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-buys-200000-more-rounds-of-ammunition/

It's hard keeping up with the fascists but I am trying!

[Alphabet Soup]

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-buys-200000-more-rounds-of-ammunition/

It's hard keeping up with the fascists but I am trying!

At what point are you finding a price break? ;-)

[Libertas]

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-buys-200000-more-rounds-of-ammunition/

It's hard keeping up with the fascists but I am trying!

At what point are you finding a price break? ;-)

The only break I see is in getting my order in before them...between them and us the mfg's are loving the sellers market.

 

[Pandora]

Went to a recently built Gander Mountain yesterday.  For a box of 50, .357s were going for $55.   

Yeahhhh, uh no, I doan theen' so ......

[robins111]

Went to a recently built Gander Mountain yesterday.  For a box of 50, .357s were going for $55.   

Yeahhhh, uh no, I doan theen' so ......

Box of 357 in Canada, $25.72 for Remington JSP.  Mega box 223, at 250 rnds, $78.00, .45 acp, $24.85... 100 rnd bags of 9mm brass, $23.94, 357 mag brass, $24.85. 45 acp brass, $30.72...   40 cal brass is pretty much a give away as most police use this round.

HG bullets, (just the bullets) 115 gr. FMJ, $23.94 per 100.  38/357 JHP, 158 gr. $19.63.,  .45, 230 gr, JHP notched, $33.72, per 100

[Libertas]

Went to a recently built Gander Mountain yesterday.  For a box of 50, .357s were going for $55.   

Yeahhhh, uh no, I doan theen' so ......

Just for FMJ?   

[Pandora]

Went to a recently built Gander Mountain yesterday.  For a box of 50, .357s were going for $55.   

Yeahhhh, uh no, I doan theen' so ......

Just for FMJ?   

Yep.  Remington.  Nuts.  Gunsmith said, pffft!  forget it!  I'll load some.

[Libertas]

Went to a recently built Gander Mountain yesterday.  For a box of 50, .357s were going for $55.   

Yeahhhh, uh no, I doan theen' so ......

Just for FMJ?   

Yep.  Remington.  Nuts.  Gunsmith said, pffft!  forget it!  I'll load some.

Yeah, that's theft.  Glad I am all stocked up!

[Libertas]

I swear CO had this posted somewhere but I cannot find it.

I am actually a little surprised this isn't getting more scruitiny.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/obama-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks-to-go-with-their-1-6-billion-bullet-stockpile/

Looks like a big red flag to me.

[charlesoakwood]

Weisshaupt linked to it within a statement but it does merit more attention.  
"Street sweepers" with several machine gun ports on each side, nothing to
worry about there.  Hacking a drone may prove easier than demobilizing these things.

[Glock32]

IED fodder.

[Libertas]

Let the bangers take 'em on?

[IronDioPriest]

We're just alarmists because federal government bureaucracies with intangible law enforcement authority arming up with billions of rounds and armored vehicles and shooting blanks from helicopters over major cities is not an indication of any wrong intentions on the part of government.

I'm sick to death of these idiotic deniers.

The Great Ammunition Myth
The government is not planning a violent putdown of civil unrest.

[Pandora]

The government is not planning a violent putdown of civil unrest.

Bullsht.

Mushrooms ......

[Libertas]

Those who look behind the curtain...will be ridiculed, marginalized...and eventually interred in a FEMA camp.

Trust the government that does not trust you?  WTF is that stupid?!?!?!

[Janny]

I swear CO had this posted somewhere but I cannot find it.

I am actually a little surprised this isn't getting more scruitiny.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/obama-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks-to-go-with-their-1-6-billion-bullet-stockpile/

Looks like a big red flag to me.

Update: An earlier version of this post included a figure of over 2,700 vehicles, as cited from the original RT link. This figure likely comes from a press release from Navistar Defense, mentioning delivery of 2,717 to the U.S. Marine Corps. A DHS Spokesman confirmed with Business Insider that they have only 16 nationwide.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/homeland-security-serving-warrants-mrap-2013-3#ixzz2MiA49aru

Gateway Pundit relied on The Modern Survival Blog article from last September, that wrongly ASSUMED that all 2717 were for DHS. They didn't do their homework.

[charlesoakwood]

Good find, Janny.  If gateway continues this habit of alarming headlines and little research it will lose credibility and with that viewers. Hey Jim, wake up!

[Weisshaupt]

Good find, Janny.  If gateway continues this habit of alarming headlines and little research it will lose credibility and with that viewers. Hey Jim, wake up!

Sadly, Jim Hoft has been doing that for years.  He sometimes has stuff first, but I never assume anything I see there to be vetted.

[charlesoakwood]

http://minx.cc/?post=338103
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[blockquote]
At this, I am officially sick of trying to debunk what everyone will believe no matter what you say.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 05, 2013 07:51 PM (bxiXv)[/blockquote]


I feel your pain.I'm a federal agent and firearms instructor. My agents shoot, on average, 250 rounds per quarter. We do not shoot "practice ammo". We have been shooting HP ammo for at least 12 years (since I became an instructor).If you look at the number of agents, officers, and investigators for DHS agencies, the ammo purchase becomes less mysterious.*Some of the agencies that fall under DHS are:

Secret Service (@5000 agents/officers)
HSI (formerly ICE) (@8500 agents/officers)
Customs and Border Protection(@40,000 officers)
Border Patrol (@20,000 agents)

US Coast Guard (@40,000 personnel)
Federal Protective Service (Unknown #)
Federal
Law Enforcement Training Center (3 facilities: Glynco, Ga, Charleston,
SC, and Artesia NM, training 90 law enforcement agencies)Air Marshals are also under DHS. Their numbers and training routines are secret, but I would bet they shoot as often and maintain as high standards as the Secret Service Presidential Detail, which shoots a hell of a lot more that your average federal agent.
*(Those numbers are based on what I could find online.)
As you can see, those agencies expend a lot of ammo in training. If you use my numbers as a guide, Border patrol shoots 20 million rounds a year, or 100 million over the 5 year contract. CBP shoots 40 million a year.
I went through two advanced instructor courses at FLETC last year, and probably shot a combined 5000 rounds between the two courses. Each class had 24 students.
I don't doubt that the 1.6 billion number is some bastardization of the true number, since a "journalist" compiled the data. I also have no doubt that the administration, after seeing the absolute frenzy created by these stories (specifically the original 450 million round order last spring), told Napolitano to double it or triple it to create more consternation.

[Glock32]

I guess then the pertinent question is, if we look at the preceding 10 years would we find it being ordered in similar quantities? I honestly do not know the answer to that, but considering it would have covered the Bush years I'm pretty sure the leftist MFM would have been sh*tting bricks over it at the time. As far as I am concerned, most of the controversy swirling around this stems from it being such a sharp spike (allegedly) in procurement.

"Black helicopters" was also a pejorative until, well, they started showing up in major downtown areas firing blanks from their machine guns. They'll have to excuse me if I'm fresh out of benefit-of-the-doubt when the Feral government is involved.