Topic: I'm Not Sure How This Ends Well

[trapeze]

So...link from the DrudgeReport yesterday about how the minimum qualifying healthcare plan will cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $20,000. Seems to me that I remember That f**king Guy saying that it would be about a tenth of that but hey, could be my faulty memory.

So now that the official word is out on what someone will have to pay in order to comply with the law, what will now happen?

I don't know about the rest of you but I can't afford to pay for what amounts to be a new car every year in perpetuity.

I mean, I guess I could but I would have to probably forego a luxury or two like say, eating. Or paying the mortgage. You know...silly stuff.

So...

I guess I will be paying the fine.

And since (and please correct me if I am wrong) one of the many blessed virtues of StupidGuyCare is that I cannot be denied medical insurance for pre-existing conditions, I don't think that I will pay the fine and continue to shell out my monthly payment for my non-qualifying health insurance coverage.

Yep, I'm gonna be forced to be a deadbeat. I'm gonna stop paying for healthcare until I need it.

These are basic supply/demand, invisible hand type of economic principles at work here. I am going to be forced to do what is in my own personal best interest from an economic point of view.

I'm being absolutely serious. Why should I be responsible and pay for medical insurance when I am going to be fined anyway? I may as well pocket those premiums, put the money into something else and pay the fine. It costs me less and I can still pony up for insurance at some later date if and when me or one of my family members needs expensive care.

This, sadly, may be playing into Thatf**kingGuy's hands. He may want me to do just this very thing in order to totally crash the system and force the country into single payer.

Then again, maybe a whole lot of people are going to get thoroughly pissed off when they start realizing that "free" healthcare isn't free. Or maybe when they realize that the word "free" doesn't mean what they thought it meant.

"Free" now equals $20,000 bucks.

You keep using that word, "free". I don't think it means what you think it means.

And if a whole lot of people get thoroughly pissed maybe there will be a turnaround. But I doubt it.

[Dan]

Iirc, there isn't evena mechanism to enforce collection of said fine! I'll look that up and post if I find it in my files.
 And yes, it's a feature. Dopes like us "law abiding" citizens will bear the brunt until we or it breaks.

[trapeze]

The IRS is in charge of it. You can take it to the bank that there will be a form that is submitted with your tax return that validates whether or not you are complying and then what your fine will be if you are not.

I'm not going to comply. I can't and I won't. I will pay the fine. It will be the cheaper way to go and I can buy health insurance when I need to. You watch...a lot of people will go this route. I'm certain that this is the desired effect, though. Thatf**kingGuy wants the system to collapse.

Food. Guns. Ammo. Liquor. Toilet Paper.

Good investments in the new normal.

[trapeze]

One problem, though, and it's probably already been discussed...

When the hordes of feral humans come out looking for victims what do you do with the bodies as they begin to pile up?

[Weisshaupt]

Iirc, there isn't evena mechanism to enforce collection of said fine! I'll look that up and post if I find it in my files.
 And yes, it's a feature. Dopes like us "law abiding" citizens will bear the brunt until we or it breaks.

Yeah, so they will make a mechanism up.  No it won't be legal. They will be glad to entertain your case for years and seize your property in the meantime.

[Weisshaupt]

One problem, though, and it's probably already been discussed...

When the hordes of feral humans come out looking for victims what do you do with the bodies as they begin to pile up?

Wood Chipper and a Compost heap?

[Weisshaupt]

I'm not going to comply. I can't and I won't. I will pay the fine. It will be the cheaper way to go and I can buy health insurance when I need to. You watch...a lot of people will go this route. I'm certain that this is the desired effect, though. Thatf**kingGuy wants the system to collapse.

Cloward Piven.  Oh look! See this Private/public enterprise didn't work out. Everyone is buying their insurance from the govt run pools or not buying it at all. Guess we NEED single payer.

That was the plan all along.

[charlesoakwood]

Make a big pyre.

[Glock32]

One problem, though, and it's probably already been discussed...

When the hordes of feral humans come out looking for victims what do you do with the bodies as they begin to pile up?

Fertilizer. It will be the first time they've done anything productive.

[warpmine]

One problem, though, and it's probably already been discussed...

When the hordes of feral humans come out looking for victims what do you do with the bodies as they begin to pile up?

Fertilizer. It will be the first time they've done anything productive.

LOL. Freeze the body first so it makes less of a mess.

[BigAlSouth]

I'll try and find the link. I read a story about some mid-twenties kid who discovered that the healthcare he thought was supposed to be "free" is going to cost him $800 per month, because his employer is scrapping Employer Pay.

This just confirmed my suspicions all along. Those great "low information voters" always assumed that ObamaCare was really "free health care." Boy, were they wrong.

Welcome to Obama America, chumps.

[Alphabet Soup]

One problem, though, and it's probably already been discussed...

When the hordes of feral humans come out looking for victims what do you do with the bodies as they begin to pile up?

I may pose them obscenely in order to provide an object lesson, or I may just stack 'em like cordwood.

[Glock32]

One problem, though, and it's probably already been discussed...

When the hordes of feral humans come out looking for victims what do you do with the bodies as they begin to pile up?

I may pose them obscenely in order to provide an object lesson, or I may just stack 'em like cordwood.

Now that you mention it, Vlad Tepes had some ideas about what to do with them....

[John Florida]

One problem, though, and it's probably already been discussed...

When the hordes of feral humans come out looking for victims what do you do with the bodies as they begin to pile up?

Fertilizer. It will be the first time they've done anything productive.

    Compost?

[warpmine]

One problem, though, and it's probably already been discussed...

When the hordes of feral humans come out looking for victims what do you do with the bodies as they begin to pile up?

I may pose them obscenely in order to provide an object lesson, or I may just stack 'em like cordwood.

Now that you mention it, Vlad Tepes had some ideas about what to do with them....

Chit on a stick?

[AmericanPatriot]

I guess I'll have to do with them what I promised to do to the first boy who came around.

"Shoot the first one and leave him lay.  Word will get around"

[Weisshaupt]

LOL. Freeze the body first so it makes less of a mess.

Gonna need me a bigger freezer.

[trapeze]

As a "by the way" comment...

I was out shopping for various stuff today. I went into a "Big 5" sporting goods store and actually found a box of 380ACP in JHP. Fifty rounds of Remington for $23. It was the only box of 380ACP on the shelf so I snatched it up. They also had several boxes of Remington 40SW in FMJ. They were the "value" boxes of 100 rounds priced at $51 so I grabbed one of them. They had four boxes on the shelf. That was a surprise, too. Actually, my local dealer has lots of 40SW so I'm not terribly concerned about its availability right now.

Then I went to Walmart and they had two boxes of 380ACP in some weird Russian brand that I had never heard of. Steel cased FMJ's but they were super cheapo at $13 for a box of 50. I bought both plus a box of Remington .30-06 180 grain. The clerk actually asked me if I wanted him to check in back for more of the 380 but I declined...figured I had enough of that caliber for the time being. Plus, I have an online order coming from Brownells for another 150 rounds of Remington JHP's so I really do have a few.

The funny thing is that I am able to find just about everything I want in ammo with one exception: 22LR. You can't find any of that stuff anywhere. I have several thousand rounds but I would feel a lot better if I could pick up about five thousand more. My local firearms dealer will set a few boxes aside for me when they get some but they have no idea when that will be.''

Related: Bought a bunch of stuff for my AR this weekend. I haven't customized my AR yet but that's about to change. I bought a quad rail hand guard and another rail that mounts to the carrying handle. I also got a bipod and a multi position fore grip. I added a cool looking bayonet to my Amazon wish list. I'm gonna be shopping for a red dot scope for the top rail and a tac light and laser sight for the side rail next. Can't wait to finish it off and take it to the range. It's gonna look absolutely wicked...the kind of thing that would fry Feinstein's brain.

[Libertas]

Mechanism - They'll try and try until Roberts OK's one.

Feral bodies - I like the Vlad Tepes style of warning other would be trespassers, but far enough away from living, ground water and cultivation spots...the rest get burned to reduce the chances of encountering disease and pestilence.

Barter/survival items - No such thing as too much.

[Libertas]

Speaking of not ending well, y'all see this article?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272166/Big-brother-log-drinking-habits-waist-size.html#axzz2JhXYhdJ3

If you are familiar with "meaningful use" you know what I am referencing.  The Fed's are mandating and incentivizing providers to migrate to electronic medial records, once in place the data stream into the Fed's will flow unimpeded, it will be Logan's Run realized.  So much for HIPPA, so much for privacy or rights of any kind, so much for liberty...the end of America is in sight.

Won't end well at all!