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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2013, 11:55:41 PM »
I was always one to vote even if the choices weren't great just so the Dems around here wouldn't think they had everyone's support.

Now I don't care because both parties are the same.

I don't believe both parties are the same.

The Democrats decide they want something and nothing stands in their way to get it. They lie, they cheat...whatever they need to do to achieve their ends. They never give up and they never give in. Not an inch. The only way they are ever defeated is at the ballot box and even when that happens they don't sit back and get all introspective wondering what's wrong with them and their ideas. Democrats are also extremely responsive to their base. Sure, they despise and hate them but they do listen to them and they do deliver the goods.

The Republicans, when they occasionally decide on a policy objective like, say, a tax cut almost never stand firm and insist on getting what they want. They compromise. The go "bipartisan." Which means that they move closer to the Democrat position. And when Republicans lose they ask themselves endlessly what is wrong with them and their ideas. Republicans could not possibly care less about their base. They use them to get elected and then promptly ignore them as if they never knew them for the next several months or years until it's time to run for office again. You want an example? Here, relive this putrid moment:


This clod played his constituents for fools and he has been doing it for years. Since they never punish him for it he has zero reason to act any differently. Others see him get away with this and they act accordingly.

No, these parties are very different. One is evil, diabolical and unrelenting while the other is stupid and lazy.

I'm just tired of being played. Even if they don't pass amnesty I am gonna have a tough time supporting the Republicans after this. I mean, if someone who you knew and did not particularly care for but tolerated nonetheless, dropped their pants and took a dump on your floor in the middle of your dinner party I'm thinking that they wouldn't get invited back again. That's how I am looking at this amnesty deal. I have been insulted and I have had enough.
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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2013, 08:48:14 AM »
Were all being played by the like of Jonny Mac.They want to vote on an amendment to build the fence when it's been voted on and passed and the funding was passed also and here they are again with the same old tired crap of fencing and border agents lined up shoulder to shoulder all along the southern border to the tune of 20K more agents when the gang of 8 which he is a part of voted down an additional 5K agents.

 
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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2013, 08:57:46 AM »
Were all being played by the like of Jonny Mac.They want to vote on an amendment to build the fence when it's been voted on and passed and the funding was passed also and here they are again with the same old tired crap of fencing and border agents lined up shoulder to shoulder all along the southern border to the tune of 20K more agents when the gang of 8 which he is a part of voted down an additional 5K agents.

 

It doesn't matter if they're lined up shoulder to shoulder (even if one believes they intend to fulfill that "goal"); what matters is what they'll be allowed to DO, or NOT DO, to protect and secure the border.  Fly >> ointment.

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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2013, 10:50:23 AM »
Were all being played by the like of Jonny Mac.They want to vote on an amendment to build the fence when it's been voted on and passed and the funding was passed also and here they are again with the same old tired crap of fencing and border agents lined up shoulder to shoulder all along the southern border to the tune of 20K more agents when the gang of 8 which he is a part of voted down an additional 5K agents.

 

Also, they don't start the hiring for four years and they have ten years or something to reach the 20,000 mark.  I don't know which idiot Senator said this because I was listening and not paying much attention, but he said, "20,000 more border agents, that's 40,000 more boots on the ground!"  I don't know if he was implying we couldn't multiply by two or saying one legged border agents need not apply.

I'm not waiting until this abortion of a bill gets passed, I am switching my party affiliation to Independent.  Then I'll be one of those voters the Republicans seem to really care about.  In PA I think switching means I won't be allowed to vote in primaries, but since it's PA it never matters by the time it gets to us anyway.  There is only the squish left by then, so I won't be missing much.

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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2013, 11:16:19 AM »
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I don't know if he was implying we couldn't multiply by two or saying one legged border agents need not apply.

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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2013, 12:54:57 PM »
I'm with trap on this one.   

Here's a pledge hubby made this morning that rocked my world:

"If the NBA does what Obama wants and starts endorsing Obamacare, I will boycott the NBA forever.  I will destroy all my NBA shirts and caps.  I will never watch another NBA game."

If you knew the hubby, this is a BIG DEAL.
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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2013, 01:25:26 PM »
I'm with trap on this one.   

Here's a pledge hubby made this morning that rocked my world:

"If the NBA does what Obama wants and starts endorsing Obamacare, I will boycott the NBA forever.  I will destroy all my NBA shirts and caps.  I will never watch another NBA game."

If you knew the hubby, this is a BIG DEAL.

Wow. He sounds so serious. What a sacrifice.
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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2013, 01:30:32 PM »
It is a big deal. People are drawing lines; it's a hardening of positions. People are boycotting businesses and entire states over these issues.
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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2013, 03:10:25 PM »
Politics is the pursuit of self-interest. We advocate for and support issues and representatives that we care about. Sometimes that can include voting for someone in order to keep your spouse happy (I never said that political motives are always clear). In one way or another we seek the things we favor and reject the things we despise.

Øbamacare is bad news for almost every one of us. It's just that some of us recognize it more readily than others. As the little lightbulbs start to glow with revelation and understanding (because it negatively impacts them on a personal level) more people will come to embrace this simple truth. I just hope that it isn't too late.

Likewise with "comprehensive immigration reform"  (how is it that congress-critters are so adept at creating euphemism's that represent the exact opposite of their titles?!) some folks will profit from the massive giveaways that will come at a brutal cost to the rest of us. We - and our children - are getting screwed and should be in the streets over this. But too few see the many ways that they are gonna get rolled and are content to sit in front of the boob-toob and zone out. Few even care enough to argue the point with me. Mostly they call me a bigot, racist, homophobe. BFD.

So instead I work to build my insulation against the inevitable and pursue the few remaining pastimes that give me comfort.

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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2013, 05:52:19 PM »
Few even care enough to argue the point with me. Mostly they call me a bigot, racist, homophobe. BFD.


To them that is arguing.  No liberal can argue a point, because they really don't have one. They want to feel a certain way, and no amount of logic, reason or facts is gonna get the their way.  By calling you racist, they got what they wanted - a feeling of moral superiority over you, that will then be used to justify their ill treatment of you.  Its sociopathic and yes, that simple. They really do not care what the truth is, even if it will impact them in the future. They assume the future will be fine, after all everything has been fine in the past.  My liberal mother even told me she "trusts in our system" and it will right itself.  What the system you voted not to follow/ The system you voted to "transform" ? I think she has a clue ow how bad its getting but liberals just tell themselves it will be okay.



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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2013, 06:16:53 AM »
I always chafed at hearing Democrat LI Voters spew the mantra "Republicans are for Big Business!"

Damned if they are right on this immigration fiasco. The Big Business, Big Money is being shoveled to the Republicans who are in favor of cheap wages paid to LI immigrants*. Who are the winners in this? The Democratic Party BIG TIME and the businesses which rely on cheap, cheap physical manual labor.

My prediction if this passes? We become a European-styled socialist state and the workers freely let in by the BIG BUSINESS interests make the companies live to regret their decision when the State begins taking or controlling their businesses.


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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2013, 06:25:14 AM »
Amended:

Oh, BAS, you are so stoopid. How can business be "taken over" by the government here in Amerika?

Well, through regulations, using Big Business as the piggy bank for the State's European Socialist policies. Make business pay for ALL health care. Tax the hell out of them. And, RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE TO A LIVABLE WAGE!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/22/a-15-minimum-wage-is-a-terrible-idea/
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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2013, 03:38:21 PM »
Big Business is the biggest proponent of stifling regulation you will find anywhere. That's what I find laughable about the libs who think they're somehow sticking it to the fat cats by slapping regulations on them. That's very much a case of "oh please do anything, just don't throw us in that briar patch" and they fall for it every time. A hyper regulatory environment is nothing more than huge corporations intertwined with the bureaucracy deciding in unison to lop off the lowest rungs of the ladder. Killing upstart competition in the crib, as it were. To the mutual benefit of corporate oligarchs and entrenched bureaucrats. You know, fascism.
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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2013, 04:37:48 PM »
I'm with trap on this one.   

Here's a pledge hubby made this morning that rocked my world:

"If the NBA does what Obama wants and starts endorsing Obamacare, I will boycott the NBA forever.  I will destroy all my NBA shirts and caps.  I will never watch another NBA game."

If you knew the hubby, this is a BIG DEAL.

 And how do you feel about him not watching sports?? ::hysterical::
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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2013, 09:41:56 PM »
My only problem is there are men and women who died to give me the right to vote. I feel it's my civic duty.

HOWEVER, there hasn't been squat (as far as representation) to vote for the last decade or so.

And welcome back, LV!

I know, Alan, but I wonder what would those members in my family who served want me to do?

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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2015, 09:54:14 AM »
I revisited this because of Libertas' mentioning here:
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=13544.0;topicseen

None of the previous amnesties have garnered that reaction and I'm guessing the American people are so caponized that all we'll do is grumble about it and continue watching America's Got Talent or football.

After all, we have our bread and circuses.

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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2015, 10:56:21 AM »
Well it was a flash to the past re reading this 2013 thread....and I figured my rant will  be as good here as anywhere.

The wife and I went down to Orlando. Went to a resort which had golf, but that is another discussion for another time. When we go to Mexico, we understand we are the foreigners, but honest to God we both felt like we were in another country in Orlando. Not only were ALL the employees in our resort foreign, but we may have been the only white people in the city...or that's how it felt.

I'm all for LEGAL immigration, I do not want to sound racist but it was irritating as hell to be in a city in the United States and feel out of place., feel like the foreigner. Further instilled in me, if libs can get enough fresh new citizens in Florida and Texas, even if the repubs came up with a candidate I would cast my vote, it really won't matter.

It was a revelation for my wife. She's listened to me complain for years but really didn't take it serious, but this trip drove home the point that the immigration situation in this land has destroyed us. She better understands why I say we are in deep chit, why it is in our best interest to bleed our business for all we can and sell the thing within the next two years.
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Re: I Hereby Pledge To...
« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2015, 08:00:39 AM »
Yup.

And Team Obama wants to being in 200,000 more "refugees" (aka "Muslims")...and that's in addition to whatever pours in across an open border and finds refuge in a Sanctuary city/state.

My BIL has similar plans...I think his business will be a hard sell to a Caucasian, I am going to recommend he sell out to a foreigner...when it all goes to crap they can be left holding the bag...
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