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Australia Doing a 150
« on: September 07, 2013, 10:50:59 AM »
Good luck Mr.Abbott, if this sticks perhaps Down Under will become the last bastion of mostly free people.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/conservative-leader-abbott-expected-win-australian-election-polls-022037221.html
« Last Edit: September 08, 2013, 09:39:57 AM by Libertas »
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Australia Doing a 150
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2013, 04:52:22 PM »
I'll believe it when they get their guns back.
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Re: Australia Doing a 150
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2013, 06:44:19 PM »
I'll believe it when they get their guns back.

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Re: Australia Doing a 150
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2013, 06:53:11 PM »
Yeah, foreign "conservatives" aren't like conservatives as we know them.
Or rather, as we thought we knew them!
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Re: Australia Doing a 150
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2013, 10:45:58 PM »
As Mark Steyn puts it, the "conservative" parties in Europe and elsewhere have largely been reduced to making the argument that they will make better technical managers of the Left's massive state bureaucracy.

That's why social medicine is such a linchpin for them. It forever moves the political equilibrium to the Left. When is the last time you heard a Republican make the case that not only is Social Security something that cannot be "saved", it is something that was mathematically impossible from the very beginning and should never have even been created. I don't think I ever have. Even the so-called stalwarts of the Right only ever talk about a need to shore up Social Security and Medicare. They've been reduced to arguing that they're better stewards of the Left's creations.

But as for Australia, I don't really know much about their domestic political situation.  I take the same position as Alan on that, let's believe it when Aussies can once again legally exercise their natural rights.
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Re: Australia Doing a 150
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2013, 09:12:21 AM »
I think in Australia it comes down to taking advantage of their bountiful natural resources.  It was the leftist dingbat who thought Australia could basically plug every mine and oil/gas well, and still prosper.

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Re: Australia Doing a 150
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2013, 09:41:13 AM »
Good point, I modified the thread title accordingly.  I actually thought about changing just after posting it but figured I'd come back later anyway, nothing gets past y'all.
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I was down there in the early 80's, port call in Perth, nice...like California down under but without the masses of people and Latinos.  Not much crime, what little there was was sporadic.  Must be the former penal colony hangover or something, but widespread gun rights and ownership seems to have been breed out of the population.
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Re: Australia Doing a 150
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2013, 10:29:13 AM »
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 not only is Social Security something that cannot be "saved", it is something that was mathematically impossible from the very beginning and should never have even been created.

Let's not forget that originally the retirement age was cynically set at life expectancy + 2 years.  Had that relationship been maintained SS would likely have been a milk cow for many more years, not that it would have survived as solvent.
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Re: Australia Doing a 150
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2013, 10:47:20 AM »
...When is the last time you heard a Republican make the case that not only is Social Security something that cannot be "saved", it is something that was mathematically impossible from the very beginning and should never have even been created. I don't think I ever have...

When someone like Ron Paul flirts with such a thing, he is pilloried as a "kook". And even he was forced away from a full-throated call for dismantling, reluctantly ceding that it exists.
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