Topic: Old & Busted: Hate Speech...The New Hotness: We Hope All Your Kids Die..Horribly

[trapeze]

Two incidents that broke today:

KU Professor ‘Wishes Death on Children of NRA Members’, Calls It ‘God’s Justice’

David Guth, a professor at the University of Kansas’ journalism department, Tweeted out a sick message to the world after Monday’s Navy Yard shooting. He hopes that the children of NRA members are killed by the next crazed mass murderer.  And he calls it “God’s justice” on “misguided miscreants”.  Equally appalling is that the University stands behind its sick professor who wishes death on children.

#NavyYardShooting The blood is on the hands of the #NRA. Next time, let it be YOUR sons and daughters. Shame on you. May God damn you.

— David Guth (@DWGuth) September 16, 2013

KU put him on admin leave (paid vacation until the heat is off) later in the day.

Then there is this:

California Democrat Communications Director Wishes Deadly, Incurable Illness on Amanda Carpenter's Children; State Party Condemns, But Only Because Such Rhetoric "Lets Ted Cruz Off The Hook"

@amandacarpenter May your children all die from debilitating, painful and incurable diseases.

Amanda Carpenter is a staffer for Ted Cruz.

Obviously, this is beyond the pale.

This is what we, as conservatives, are facing. Just in case there is anyone among us who doubts what their intentions are.

Some (on the left) may not think this way just as there are probably some muslims who do not wish fervently for the death of all infidels. But I think that a sizable percentage of the left really do wish us all (and our children) to die horrible deaths. They just wish that we were gone. Horribly. So that they can live peacefully in the sick little utopian world that exists in the fever swamps of their twisted minds.

These two creatures are only the most vocal of the bunch. They dare to say what the larger group thinks and believes.

I don't like to believe this sort of thing about other human beings but history teaches us that this has happened before. The first thing you do is to de-humanize your enemy because if they aren't human then it's okay to destroy them. Then it just comes down to a matter of finding a way to dispose of them in an efficient manner.

It's been said that ovens work rather well for that sort of thing.

[Glock32]

And meanwhile the media continues with the narrative that somehow it's conservatives who are guilty of inflammatory rhetoric, dragging down the discourse, using violent and suggestive language. You know, like Sarah Palin was responsible for Jared Loughner shooting Gabby Giffords because she used bullseye symbols on her PAC ads.

And Nancy Pelosi accusing Tea Party rallies of displaying swastikas and spitting on black Congressmen. That's the really infuriating part of all this. Not that the Left is full of poisonous hate -- we knew that -- but that the media reports things exactly the opposite.

[trapeze]

Well, that's the thing about Twitter...not only can people bypass the media and report things themselves but the left is fully capable of portraying themselves as they really are.

[trapeze]

Oh...and the douche from the Democrat party got sh*t canned.

Not that it matters. They have hundreds...thousands more just like him to take his place. Brownshirts.

[RickZ]

Problem is a common language separated by the gulf of politics.  They condemn us when we call for the death of politicians.  They get righteous when they wish for the death of politicans' kids and are upset when called upon it.  There is also the difference of why we on the right think the totalitarian mandarins in our midst should die, as hatred of tyranny is in our uniquely American blood (or at least used to be).  They don't think of themselves as totalitarians, so they cannot see that difference.

[IronDioPriest]

Logically, it won't be long until everybody is calling for somebody's death.

[ToddF]

That California guy has never liked girls...if ya know what I mean.   

[Weisshaupt]

Problem is a common language separated by the gulf of politics.  They condemn us when we call for the death of politicians.  They get righteous when they wish for the death of politicans' kids and are upset when called upon it.  There is also the difference of why we on the right think the totalitarian mandarins in our midst should die, as hatred of tyranny is in our uniquely American blood (or at least used to be).  They don't think of themselves as totalitarians, so they cannot see that difference.

This isn't a gulf of politics. They are Children and we are adults. They hate us with the passion a 5 year old uses when throwing a temper tantrum  when someone tells them they can't have cake till after dinner.  The Left really doesn't care about anything other than feeling superior to us, and calling for the death of are children makes them feel that way - self righteously better. It doesn't matter at all that the privately owned guns  stopped crime and pain  every day.  In fact it matters more, because the lefty know they would never put themselves in harms way to help another - armed or not. They know that it makes the armed person willing to do so better than them, and they hate that with every fiber of their envious heart. We ARE better than them. We have personal responsibility. We don't constantly NEED help from others. We have the self control required to pursue delayed gratification, keep our genitals in our pants, and not steal when we have the chance. We have character and grace. That is why they hate us fundamentally. That is why they hate our Christian morals- because they set up standards they pathetic wretches couldn't even come close to. That is why they relish it when one of us falls from the path and see it as a victory, rather than a tragedy.  These people are hateful, sick, loathsome, twisted little spoiled brats.   I don't wish  death to their kids. I wish death to them, and hopefully by their own hand. Starvation is one of the most painful ways to die, and I wish that everyone whom they have ever derided and   attacked via their proxies in government, every one who has been stolen from and bullied by these barbarians, denies them aid when they need it, so maybe, just maybe before they go, they learn the value of treating others with respect and the difference between a voluntary action and coercion.

[warpmine]

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I think just how beautiful this country was before the Marxists took it over and it will again after the war for Liberty.

I'm sorry warpmine. My desire is to let people exercise personal responsibility re; lines and boundaries for what is acceptable or unacceptable in an open forum. I ask that of you now.

Blatant and graphic calls for violence harm the forum, and are not allowed. We're already gritty enough to chase away all but the most zealous conservative commenters. At a minimum, we must practice restraint when we speak of events to come.

[trapeze]

I knew that a story like this was going to piss everyone off.

[Libertas]

I predict Pubbies will continue to insist on fighting with both hands tied behind their back and that this crap will get worse.

Let me know what prize I've won...

[AlanS]

I predict Pubbies will continue to insist on fighting with both hands tied behind their back and that this crap will get worse.

Let me know what prize I've won...

An all expenses paid (less medical) vacation to Chicago. How's that sound?

[whimsicalmamapig]

I think it all boils down to this:

there are 2 basic types of humans, aggressive self-determining types and passive self-doubters.

the self-determining types innovate, take opportunities and project civilizations forwards through many means. This can be economically, politically, intellectually or militarily. These are not necessarily benevolent cultures but run the gamut from America to the mongol horde.

the passive types were and are comfortable with cultures that enable equality and sharing, your basic hunter/gatherer small clan which is always the left's representative of the ideal world.  They understand intrinsically that if they were to compete with the self-determining types they would not fare as well and the "wealth" would not be spread evenly.

deep down the leftist, progressive socialists are the pacifists and strive to create the small world of the clan-based hunter/gatherer societies in our much larger cultures and they meet unavoidable failure where ever they try. They understand that the world they need to create to ensure their fair share is a no-go in any group larger than a few hundred at the most.

the self-determining types are representative of the only successful cultures and the left just can't bring themselves to actualize the fact that they are on the perennial losing side of history and the human genome. this is the basis of their abject hatred because in the very qualities that make the right successful, they see their weakness and inherent inability to compete. they use the only tools left to the weak which are deceit and trickery, both ignoble traits to the aggressive self-confident types.

Those who chose utopian egalitarian communal societies just don't have the stones to claim what they need in life and would rather construct artifices that would guarantee their "fair share" without regard of their abilities.

[Weisshaupt]

I think it all boils down to this:

there are 2 basic types of humans, aggressive self-determining types and passive self-doubters.

the self-determining types innovate, take opportunities and project civilizations forwards through many means. This can be economically, politically, intellectually or militarily. These are not necessarily benevolent cultures but run the gamut from America to the mongol horde.

the passive types were and are comfortable with cultures that enable equality and sharing, your basic hunter/gatherer small clan which is always the left's representative of the ideal world.  They understand intrinsically that if they were to compete with the self-determining types they would not fare as well and the "wealth" would not be spread evenly.

deep down the leftist, progressive socialists are the pacifists and strive to create the small world of the clan-based hunter/gatherer societies in our much larger cultures and they meet unavoidable failure where ever they try. They understand that the world they need to create to ensure their fair share is a no-go in any group larger than a few hundred at the most.

the self-determining types are representative of the only successful cultures and the left just can't bring themselves to actualize the fact that they are on the perennial losing side of history and the human genome. this is the basis of their abject hatred because in the very qualities that make the right successful, they see their weakness and inherent inability to compete. they use the only tools left to the weak which are deceit and trickery, both ignoble traits to the aggressive self-confident types.

Those who chose utopian egalitarian communal societies just don't have the stones to claim what they need in life and would rather construct artifices that would guarantee their "fair share" without regard of their abilities.

Yeah. What you said ^^^

[Pandora]

Jesus Christ Almighty already, Weisshaupt! 

What she said? 

The Left are not self-doubters, they're not passive by any means, and they're not fearful.  They believe they are the smartest people in the room and they're determined to prevail and impose their vision of good on us all. 

Good. grief.

[IronDioPriest]

The Left are not self-doubters, they're not passive by any means, and they're not fearful.  They believe they are the smartest people in the room and they're determined to prevail and impose their vision of good on us all. 

Taken individually, I think that Mama's assessment may be an accurate generalization. Leftists derive the attributes you describe only when they have the power of the collective. In numbers and once in power, their collective inner child becomes a bully, then, mass graves.

[Libertas]

I predict Pubbies will continue to insist on fighting with both hands tied behind their back and that this crap will get worse.

Let me know what prize I've won...

An all expenses paid (less medical) vacation to Chicago. How's that sound?

Feels like a foot in the berries for breakfast and a crap sandwich for lunch...don't want to know what fate dinner holds!

[Libertas]

The Left are not self-doubters, they're not passive by any means, and they're not fearful.  They believe they are the smartest people in the room and they're determined to prevail and impose their vision of good on us all. 

Taken individually, I think that Mama's assessment may be an accurate generalization. Leftists derive the attributes you describe only when they have the power of the collective. In numbers and once in power, their collective inner child becomes a bully, then, mass graves.

I think a distinction can be made between the ruling agitators who are at/near the mass grave stage and the rank and file Free Shyt Army can't-see-past-the-end-of-their-nose mostly brain-dead streetwalking emoting libiot in the proto-bully stage.

[warpmine]

The Left are not self-doubters, they're not passive by any means, and they're not fearful.  They believe they are the smartest people in the room and they're determined to prevail and impose their vision of good on us all. 

Taken individually, I think that Mama's assessment may be an accurate generalization. Leftists derive the attributes you describe only when they have the power of the collective. In numbers and once in power, their collective inner child becomes a bully, then, mass graves.

I think a distinction can be made between the ruling agitators who are at/near the mass grave stage and the rank and file Free Shyt Army can't-see-past-the-end-of-their-nose mostly brain-dead streetwalking emoting libiot in the proto-bully stage.

Sure but even that has to be split into two groups: Those that adhere to God's principles and those that actively deny God. A self doubter I am, can you blame me after this sh*t, but I can innovate for my business when called upon. If it weren't for the horrid environment brought upon us b y the government, I may have tried my hand at inventing things to improve my trade. Those that deny God are those most likely to take up the free shyt and gathering of the common core leftist.

I had ideas to improve or extend the range of electric cars however, I'm rather pissed the government's interference in the whole mess to begin with so screw it. Even had ideas for an non internal combustion engine but again, government stifles both ingenuity and creativity. The only thing I can actively concentrate on is finding ways to destroy the enemy of liberty.

[IronDioPriest]

The Left are not self-doubters, they're not passive by any means, and they're not fearful.  They believe they are the smartest people in the room and they're determined to prevail and impose their vision of good on us all. 

Taken individually, I think that Mama's assessment may be an accurate generalization. Leftists derive the attributes you describe only when they have the power of the collective. In numbers and once in power, their collective inner child becomes a bully, then, mass graves.

I think a distinction can be made between the ruling agitators who are at/near the mass grave stage and the rank and file Free Shyt Army can't-see-past-the-end-of-their-nose mostly brain-dead streetwalking emoting libiot in the proto-bully stage.

See, I think that when those ruling agitators gain real power - as they have now - the free-sh*t army is just as dangerous - just as prone to the things Pan warns of. It is the collective Left that poses a threat, in all its facets.