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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #160 on: October 04, 2013, 07:27:47 PM »
  This worm is gonna turn on that bunch of criminals sooner rather than later.
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #161 on: October 04, 2013, 10:39:50 PM »
Not in time, I fear.
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #162 on: October 05, 2013, 09:49:35 AM »
Just before the weekend, the National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida that the Florida Bay was "closed" due to the shutdown.

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Until government funding is restored, the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of open ocean. Fishing is also prohibited at Biscayne National Park during the shutdown.

The Park Service will also have rangers on duty to police the ban. Of access to an ocean. The government will probably use more personnel and spend more resources to attempt to close the ocean, than it would in its normal course of business.


How much more proof do people need that the Feds have been allowed to insert themselves into every damn thing and that this must stop?
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #163 on: October 05, 2013, 10:19:46 AM »
The government is openly turning against the people. It could not be more clear. They're giving us the middle finger and daring us to do anything about it.
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #164 on: October 05, 2013, 10:20:16 AM »
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/04/priests-threatened-with-arrest-if-they-minister-to-military-during-shutdown/#ixzz2grCxB8If

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“With the government shutdown, many [government service] and contract priests who minister to Catholics on military bases worldwide are not permitted to work – not even to volunteer,” wrote John Schlageter, the general counsel for the Archdiocese for the Military Services USA, in an op-ed this week. “During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they risk being arrested if they attempt to do so.”

Because of the lack of active-duty Catholic chaplains, the military relies on hiring civilian priests to serve as government service and contract ministers. Those civilian priests are not allowed on the bases during a shutdown, Schlageter wrote.

One Republican lawmaker on the House Intelligence Committee told The Daily Caller on Friday that this “crosses a constitutional line.”

“The constitutional rights of those who put their lives on the line for this nation do not end with a government slowdown,” Kansas Rep. Mike Pompeo, a graduate of West Point and an Army veteran, said in a Friday statement. ”It is completely irresponsible for the president to turn his back on every American’s First Amendment rights by furloughing military contract clergy.”

Added Pompeo: “The President’s strategy during the slowdown, just as during the sequestration, is to create as much pain as possible. However, this action crosses a constitutional line of obstructing every U.S. service member’s ability to practice his or her religion.”

Well, what are y'all going to do about it?

I see the Park Police acting like Brownshirts and this does not bode well.

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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #165 on: October 05, 2013, 10:27:14 AM »
Those clergy or their members need to be making an emergency petition to the Supreme Court.
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #166 on: October 05, 2013, 01:43:09 PM »
just saw this on twitter:
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BREAKING: House approves resolution to allow chaplains to minister during shut down



N.B.: This post has been updated since the initial posting.

 The United States House of Representatives voted today to allow military chaplains to minister to the members of the armed forces on military during the government "shut down."

 Representative Doug Collins (R-George) introduced the resolution which was approved by a vote of 400-1, with 30 no votes; Representative Bill Enyart (D-Illinois) - a retired General - was the only member to vote against the resolution.  Of those not voting, 16 are Republicans and 14 are Democrats.

 If your Representative voted in favor of the resolution, please be certain to thank him or her and be sure to encourage your Senators to also vote in favor of it!

 Now we will see what the United States Senate will do with the legislation.

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looking for an update

no major media reporting this yet
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #167 on: October 05, 2013, 01:46:26 PM »
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A priest at the Naval Amphibious Base in Little Creek, Va., was told he could not celebrate Mass on base because of the government shutdown. So he discovered a way to circumvent the ban.

“He’s having Mass in a local park off base,” the archbishop said.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/04/catholic-priests-in-military-face-arrest-for-celebrating-mass/?intcmp=latestnews
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #168 on: October 05, 2013, 01:58:33 PM »
Now they're preventing Vietnam Vets from visiting the Vietnam Memorial Wall.

These sons of bitches should be dragged from their hallowed halls and dealt with commensurate with their offense. This is intolerable.
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #169 on: October 05, 2013, 02:07:45 PM »
Quote from: IronDioPriest on October 05, 2013, 01:58:33 PM
Now they're preventing Vietnam Vets from visiting the Vietnam Memorial Wall.

These sons of bitches should be dragged from their hallowed halls and dealt with commensurate with their offense. This is intolerable.

This has to stop!!!

this is from a few weeks ago when shutting down something was not permitted:
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A rejection letter written by a National Park Service official to one of the event [9/11 biker rally] organizers said that many area roads would have had to be closed in order to grant a no-stop permit, resulting “in severe disruption of traffic.”
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #170 on: October 05, 2013, 06:24:51 PM »
Unbelievable!

Barack Obama brought out the German Sheperds today to threaten US veterans at the Vietnam Memorial.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/outrage-obama-brings-out-german-shepherds-to-threaten-us-veterans/ack Obama brought out the German Sheperds today to threaten US veterans at the Vietnam Memorial.
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #171 on: October 05, 2013, 06:38:28 PM »
Hmm...the phrase "Effing piece of Ghetto Trash" comes to mind. Petulant, vindictive little bitch (and Michelle ain't no picnic neither!).
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #172 on: October 05, 2013, 07:21:21 PM »
Gee Pablo, why don't you break down and tell us how you really feel eh?   ::rolllaughing::
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #173 on: October 05, 2013, 08:24:43 PM »
  My son in laws brother is a park cop and he and most of them are pissed off having to do this since the only people not working are office people no cop is off during this mess.But the higher ups are closer to the political end of this and orders flow down hill.
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #174 on: October 05, 2013, 09:26:25 PM »
I think it would be very fitting and a perfect photo op if someone hung a wrought iron "ARBEIT MACHT FREI" on the barricades around the WWII memorial.
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #175 on: October 05, 2013, 09:28:46 PM »
I really wish that y'all would provide translations.
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #176 on: October 05, 2013, 09:32:19 PM »
It's the German statement that was on the iron gates of the concentration camps. "Work Makes (you) Free". They seem to have a blindspot on the optics of this.  Putting barriers and wire around the memorial dedicated to the men who fought in the war that liberated people who had been forced behind barriers and wire.
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #177 on: October 05, 2013, 09:34:11 PM »
Quote from: IronDioPriest on October 05, 2013, 01:58:33 PM
Now they're preventing Vietnam Vets from visiting the Vietnam Memorial Wall.

These sons of bitches should be dragged from their hallowed halls and dealt with commensurate with their offense. This is intolerable.

Gee whiz. Careful, friend...you'll, uhm...rattle my delicate sensibilities & shake my firm belief in love for my fellow man... ;D

(or is it simply a case of personal deja vu???)
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #178 on: October 05, 2013, 10:05:43 PM »
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Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
« Reply #179 on: October 05, 2013, 10:26:14 PM »
Sorry Sailor, I'm gonna merge this with the other thread we've got going re; "Shutdown Theater".
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