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Ubiquitous camera phones ...
« on: October 01, 2013, 12:46:27 PM »
... have disrupted peoples' sense of propriety.

We had the fireplace insert cleaned today.  I caught the young man photographing it and asked him what he thought he was doing.  "For the files", he said (they did the original install).

I found myself explaining the concept of private property requiring permission to be photographed.  Apparently, few others think anything of it.

Last year, when the freezer repairman came, he whipped out his phone and started taking pictures of the '55 (the freezer and the car are in the garage).  Never asked permission and I admonished him as well, but he was old enough to damn well know better.
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Re: Ubiquitous camera phones ...
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2013, 01:10:21 PM »
I was speaking here just a few days ago about the unforeseen sociological implications of personal technology.

Just a few short years ago, if you wanted to take a picture, you had to buy a camera, purposefully bring it with you, and then go to get the negatives developed. If you wanted to make a phone call, you had to wait until you were at home, or use a pay phone. If you wanted to take a video, well, you get the picture.

Along with everyone suddenly having the ability to talk on the phone, take photos, or video at any and all times, comes the reality that virtually NO ONE has explored the implications of it.

Thus, it doesn't surprise me that some dolt would consider it no biggie to take a piture of your property in your home or garage. He's only been carrying the ability to do it for a few short years at the most, and before that, it wasn't an issue because it wasn't a possibility. He never needed to learn how to behave with a 24/7/365 camera.

Now you've schooled him. I hope he takes it to heart.
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Re: Ubiquitous camera phones ...
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2013, 01:18:02 PM »
I hope he takes it to heart as well.  I am, however, going to reinforce the lesson with a chat with his boss.

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Re: Ubiquitous camera phones ...
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2013, 01:38:46 PM »
I haven't had that happen yet but thanks for the warning. I'll make sure to watch for that in the future.

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Re: Ubiquitous camera phones ...
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2013, 01:49:48 PM »
When people put the inane minutiae of their lives on social networks for all the world to read, no wonder people have no concept of privacy rights -- they've voluntarily given theirs up.

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Re: Ubiquitous camera phones ...
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2013, 02:23:53 PM »
"You wanna keep that phone, pal?"

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Re: Ubiquitous camera phones ...
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2013, 02:43:12 PM »
I just talked to the boss.  He admitted he's 55 and tends to do the same sort of thing -- have cameraphone/will photograph -- then asked me to explain "my concerns".  I asked him if he really needed an explanation of the concept of private property and privacy and the violation of both sans permission to make a photographic record of my stuff in my house.  He kept referring to that as "collecting data".

I figure he'll not be sharing that stuff as it's proprietary, so that's not my objection.

He wasn't obnoxious and not dismissive, just ...... clueless isn't even the word I'm looking for ....

If he had good home raising, modern technology has caused some slippage.
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Re: Ubiquitous camera phones ...
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2013, 02:47:00 PM »
He is baffled as to why someone would object to such a common device...it'd be like a person looking funny at someone back in the 70's taking out a little notebook and scribbling notes while you talk...no big deal, right?  Everybody does it...

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