Author Topic: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine (Read 92326 times)

patentlymn · « **Reply #1260 on:** February 08, 2023, 03:13:15 PM »

And this year's Pulitzer goes to .....
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now
Seymour Hersh
9 hr ago
The U.S. Navy’s Diving and Salvage Center can be found in a location as obscure as its name—down what was once a country lane in rural Panama City, a now-booming resort city in the southwestern panhandle of Florida, 70 miles south of the Alabama border. The center’s complex is as nondescript as its location—a drab concrete post-World War II structure that has the look of a vocational high school on the west side of Chicago. A coin-operated laundromat and a dance school are across what is now a four-lane road.

The center has been training highly skilled deep-water divers for decades who, once assigned to American military units worldwide, are capable of technical diving to do the good—using C4 explosives to clear harbors and beaches of debris and unexploded ordinance—as well as the bad, like blowing up foreign oil rigs, fouling intake valves for undersea power plants, destroying locks on crucial shipping canals. The Panama City center, which boasts the second largest indoor pool in America, was the perfect place to recruit the best, and most taciturn, graduates of the diving school who successfully did last summer what they had been authorized to do 260 feet under the surface of the Baltic Sea.
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https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

also
https://youtu.be/XSUUjH71vkw
NORD STREAM BOMBSHELL - DETAILED SY HERSH ARTICLE IMPLICATES BIDEN NEOCONS
Garland Nixon

Maybe this belongs under the NATO topic. A country attacked a NATO member by blowing up their pipeline.
Garland Nixon focused on how Germany is a US vassal and their leaders cucks.

Libertas · « **Reply #1261 on:** February 08, 2023, 04:53:38 PM »

So....

Seymour must want to get snuffed by the IC/DoD wing of the DeepState...

You just cannot up and say the dirty little secret everybody knows out loud...the DemoCommies tell us this like all the time...the Cucks don't say jack sh*t except nod and support the latest fund raiser... Seymour simply offered more background on the dirty little well know secret is all...still...

How impolite! How troglodyte! How hypocritical!

Hmm, wait...unless they/them think this will help them get rid of two rotten birds (cough, JoeFraud...cough, Heels-up Harris)...because you damn well know all concerned are all-in on global thermonuclear war over Ukraine!

I mean, why else the clincher at the end - "The only flaw was the decision to do it" - who has such authority in the banana republic of America?

That way...they/them get a new puppet...imbeciles too stupid to realize any puppet will do think 'Murica got "better"...and the rush to war doesn't miss a beat...

Heck, probably some cash on the side for those allies whose pipeline got fragged...and a Peace Prize for the new puppet on the eve of Armageddon!

H/T-GP

H/T-WZ

H/T-GP

H/T-CTH

H/T-WRSA@GAB

Easy enough to insert the new puppet into the above...

Libertas · « **Reply #1262 on:** February 09, 2023, 08:28:02 AM »

The fallout from the Hersh article begins...

JoeFraud's White House still in full denial mode...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nord-stream-sabotage-was-cia-us-navy-covert-op-seymour-hersh-bombshell-prompts-white

Sundance thinks there will be major fallout over this...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/02/08/details-surface-of-biden-administration-deliberately-destroying-nord-stream-pipeline-then-lying-about-it-repeatedly/

...but he is focusing on the cover up...which makes sense it is the way politics thinks and acts in The Swamp...it will have zero impact on the lust for more war the DeepState and its allies have...

In fact, it might be a bit of side circus necessary for the DeepState wings to return to totalitarian business as usual...

And hey, the Un-Holy Macron is still all-in...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/macron-says-russia-cannot-win-against-ukraine-while-hosting-zelensky

And this lying piece of sh*t rat-bastard traitor is still shilling for war...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/alexander-vindman-and-road-world-war-iii

...and he has a willing dance partner in Putin...bad assumptions are not deterring anybody...the sh*t-show and all it entails marches inexorably forward...

Libertas · « **Reply #1263 on:** February 09, 2023, 12:16:32 PM »

At least Monkey is getting some credit where credit is due...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/independent-evidence-video-confirms-key-part-sy-hershs-report-attack-nord-stream-2/

In related news...

The Speaker of the Russian parliament Vyacheslav Volodin branded US President Joe Biden a “terrorist” after a report by veteran US investigative journalist Seymour Hersh blamed Washington for sabotaging the Nord Stream pipelines last year. Russia is calling for a special session of the UN security council, while the German AfD party wants a parliamentary investigation.

Volodin called the purported US Nord Stream sabotage “an act of intimidation of its vassals, who decided to develop their economy in the interests of their own citizens.” He demanded an international investigation to “bring Biden and his accomplices to justice,” and to make sure that the nations affected by this “terrorist attack” are paid compensation.

The AfD (Alternative for Germany) party has called a special session of the German Bundestag (parliament) on the charges for Friday, and is demanding a parliamentary inquiry.
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Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova called on the White House to comment on the report. Russia intends to convene an official UN Security Council Meeting regarding the incident, she said.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/russian-parliament-speaker-nord-stream-attack-joe-biden-terrorist-must-brought-justice/

Frankly, you can have at any of the aforementioned...but it will have zero impact on the lust for more conflict...

Puppet's don't matter, they are obviously easily replaced...

FYI -

https://100percentfedup.com/fema-map-shows-potential-nuclear-targets-in-u-s-as-tensions-with-russia-and-china-increase-video/

patentlymn · « **Reply #1264 on:** February 09, 2023, 04:30:23 PM »

Quote

And this lying piece of sh*t rat-bastard traitor is still shilling for war...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/alexander-vindman-and-road-world-war-iii

I heard Vindman wanted to put NATO troops near the front inside Ukraine to repair equipment.
Now it is hauled back to Poland for repair.

Cringe photo new top gun movie?
https://t.me/iEarlGreyTV/4638

This is anti US propaganda for sure but this is how it ends for Ukraine. The bull is Belarus. I think the Polish eagles are taking away gold. Not sure what that means. The US is using Ukraine and Ukrainians.
https://rumble.com/v27nfoi-ukrainian-piglet-15-piglet-taken-advantage-of-by-us-and-discarded.-english.html

https://youtu.be/rnut-E_eEM0
Col. Macgregor: Ukraine is About to be ANNIHILATED (Exclusive Interview)

AG Garland said he is moving to seize property of Russia and Russians.
On what legal basis, especially for individuals?
In short, this is spooking many around the world who park cash inside the US.
The US is the number one place to park cash for Chinese, Saudis, everyone.
They may move it.
https://youtu.be/vWHmGnHW0V0
2023.02.08 The US Has Legalized Theft
Gonzalo Lira — Again

Libertas · « **Reply #1265 on:** February 10, 2023, 09:33:04 AM »

Annihilation has to be good...it is one of the ways this blows bigger...

I see nothing slowing down anyone's appetite for violence or increasing anyone's interest for peace...

Bigger, uglier and bloodier...

patentlymn · « **Reply #1266 on:** February 10, 2023, 10:47:53 AM »

Here is how I see things about the media and Ukraine.
Kiev is very smart in their media campaign. The almost daily generate 'news' which the western MSM repeats.
1. Ukraine is winning.
2. Russia is losing.
3. Russia just committed another atrocity/war crime.

It does not matter whether it is true as the MSM will repeat it as fact.
This campaign translates into arms and money from the west.
It freaking works.
When they are caught making things up it does not harm their credibility.

The west also goes to great lengths to muzzle and independent reporting. Some of them walk around in Russian/DPR/LPR controlled areas and put a mic in front of people in front of a camera and let them talk.
I probably watched 100 videos back when before I quit. One such reporter Graham Phillips is from UK, speaks Russian. The UK govt put him on a sanctions list (and seized his money and froze his account) along with Putin, Russian banks, etc. There is similar German reporter and the German govt charged her under criminal law and seized her money and froze her bank account. Also her parents' account. No one seems to notice that there is not a single CNN reporter in those areas.

If the sources I follow are correct (and they might not be correct) and the Kiev govt/army collapses I wonder how the MSM and US govt will spin it? Some say that they will simply not talk about it and switch to another topic.

Libertas · « **Reply #1267 on:** February 11, 2023, 10:46:36 AM »

Don't be silly...any collapse will be due to Russian infiltrators and will ensure direct NATO entry.

In other news...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/gaetz-files-ukraine-fatigue-resolution-stop-funding-proxy-war

Ukraine fatigue...

Well, there is a sh*tload of all sorts of fatigue going own these past few years...it seems to be the only booming industry these days...along with corruption, thuggery, theft, censorship, war and general totalitarianism...

patentlymn · « **Reply #1268 on:** February 11, 2023, 05:14:39 PM »

Too complicated for me to follow. The EU did not help Finland so Finland is not helping Ukraine?
The person says Finland is not going to destroy itself to make EU happy.

https://youtu.be/DDNq6_WVBr4

Libertas · « **Reply #1269 on:** February 12, 2023, 10:54:23 AM »

Entirely possible this India-based outfit with what appears to me given their "headlines" anybody can peruse on their main news homepage has a clear pro-BRICS bias and seems to relish in teasing Western Nations and nations the West associates with and/or approaches. They have other pro-Turkey "news" and so a healthy chunk of salt needs to accompany anything they put out.

Now, applying a requisite filter and finding what nuts the blind squirrel leaves behind...I do not find it odd when any nation attempts to secure the best deal it can for itself and that is all that is in play with this NATO Sweden & Finland stuff with Turkey is about...somebody will have to throw the asshole Erdogan his pieces of silver if they want them in NATO...

It's all a Turkey shakedown op...and one likely to see a higher price tag given the magnitude of the quake damage they are burdened with...

patentlymn · « **Reply #1270 on:** February 12, 2023, 11:20:05 AM »

Erdogan being Erdogan, as predicted.

I still did not follow why Finland won't join unless Sweden joins. Don't much care either.
I think the reactions of many of these countries is emotional and heavily influenced by females and feminized men. "We can't just sit here, we have to do something."

IMO the Baltics and Nordics are sending weapons to Ukraine that will have almost no effect and are virtue signalling. They are like Chihuahuas barking at the Russian bear through the closed gate. What happens when it opens?

The only country who attacked Germany in the last year was the US via the NS pipeline. Sweden has been invaded by hordes of Muslims but they are worried about a Russian invasion?

patentlymn · « **Reply #1271 on:** February 12, 2023, 01:41:55 PM »

Links to videos. One is of real, named Ukrainians who said they were making chemical weapons.
The second shows one use on two Russians. Like the older videos executing Russian POWs these Ukrainians are proud of this and make videos.

https://www.theinteldrop.org/2023/02/10/video-ukraine-loads-phosgene-gas-onto-drones-deploys-chemical-weapons-against-russian-soldiers/

This episode of redacted has more videos running in background that I have not seen before of Ukraine soldiers thanking the makers of the chemical weapons etc. The US launched 80+ cruise missiles into Syria for a faked gas attack. We invaded Iraq for alleged chemical weapons.

https://youtu.be/Wn9V41asoxs

patentlymn · « **Reply #1272 on:** February 12, 2023, 02:10:25 PM »

Direct link to 2 videos. Not the videos in the redacted video.

rumble.com/v290vzc-is-ukraine-using-chemical-weapons.html

Libertas · « **Reply #1273 on:** February 13, 2023, 09:26:25 AM »

In the age of increasingly better deep-fake tech...gonna need a credible video expert weigh in...

I would think if accurate, the Rus would be parading evidence before the UN by now...

Anyway, the violence will be ratcheted up one way or another...nobody is walking away from this sh!t-show...

See this?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-tells-any-remaining-americans-get-out-russia-or-face-possible-conscription

I think the proper response is

Only a batshyt-crazy corrupt administration could possibly think the Rus would want let alone trust any forcibly conscripted Americans in their ranks!

Aside from strapping proximity-fused explosives to them and parachuting them into the battlespace I don't see why they would bother...

Plus, as soon as the corrupt FJB started his sanctions any American staying in Russia after that for good or ill i son their own...

patentlymn · « **Reply #1274 on:** February 13, 2023, 11:18:23 AM »

Geez. I think that non citizens cannot even enlist.
Last I heard, resident aliens in Russia who wanted to enlist could not.

Libertas · « **Reply #1275 on:** February 13, 2023, 11:47:16 AM »

Strike three then...

It's all BS!

Libertas · « **Reply #1276 on:** February 14, 2023, 08:37:33 AM »

Moldova getting hotter...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/moldovas-pro-eu-president-claims-russia-planning-overthrow-her

We've been patrolling the heck out of this border area for over a year non-stop...

Matter of when not if...

But, war...is inescapable...

A French historian who accurately predicted the fall of the Soviet Union over a decade in advance says that World War III has already begun as a result of the conflict in Ukraine.

The comments were made by Emmanuel Todd, one of France’s leading intellectuals, during an interview with the Le Figaro newspaper.

“It is evident that the conflict, initially a limited territorial war, has evolved into a global economic confrontation between the whole West on one side, and Russia, backed by China, on the other. It has become a world war,” Todd said.

Todd added that “the resistance of the Russian economy is pushing the U.S. imperial system toward the abyss” and that Biden must “hurry” to rescue a “fragile” America.

According to the historian, U.S. control of the world financial system is at risk because the Russian economy’s resistance to sanctions is pushing “the American imperial system” toward the precipice,” with Russia still able to rely on China for monetary backing.

Todd says America “cannot withdraw from the conflict, they cannot let go,” because it has no exit strategy and the stakes are too high.

“This is why we are now in an endless war, in a confrontation whose outcome must be the collapse of one or the other,” said the intellectual.

Todd is a widely respected figure, having accurately predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union 14 years before it happened.

As we highlighted last month, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church cautioned that any attempt to “destroy Russia” by “madmen” trying to impose their values will lead to “the end of the world.”

“We pray to the Lord so that he enlightens those madmen and helps them understand that any desire to destroy Russia will mean the end of the world,” said Patriarch Kirill.

Elon Musk also recently warned that “most are oblivious to the danger” of a new global conflict.

Donald Trump also recently cautioned, “We’re on the brink of World War 3,” and in a campaign video last week asserted, “If I were president, the Russia Ukraine war would never have happened … never in a million years.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/french-historian-world-war-iii-has-already-begun

Everybody wants some...

https://youtu.be/qcnAXlhOIkg

patentlymn · « **Reply #1277 on:** February 14, 2023, 09:20:01 AM »

IMO many international problems are caused by female leaders and feminized men.
The Nordics, Baltics, and Moldova have plenty of them.
The leaders also want to please their peers rather than their citizens.

Olaf Scholz said Germany would send Leopard tanks only if the US sent Abrams.
The US said they would send Abrams so Scholz said they would send Leopards.
He did not read the fine print. The US will send Abrams when hell freezes over.
Scholz is pissed.

I heard that the UK sent the last of their self propelled howitzers and have zero left.

patentlymn · « **Reply #1278 on:** February 14, 2023, 09:25:15 AM »

This guy makes sense to me. The leaders do not believe in nations.

https://youtu.be/8-fc4ox3tS4
GAME OVER - EUROPE'S SUICIDAL IDEOLOGY
Garland Nixon

Libertas · « **Reply #1279 on:** February 14, 2023, 12:03:16 PM »

Heh, who in power believes in anything but more power, extracting more wealth from the unwilling and the stupid alike...and in vast Empire?