Topic: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine

[Libertas]

   That's the most tortured partitioning the world has ever seen since the Brits carved up the Middle East!  Perhaps even on par with some DemCom gerrymandered districts back here!   

Can't figure out where the Nazi's are, gotta be awfully small...but that's where the core ZHer's would best feel at home I am sure!   

Sounds like a lot of tap-dancing to avoid having to take the whole, which they might as well do anyway, doesn't matter...might as well triple-down on their Cold War Mulligan and invade a few more neighbors, excuse me having some ethnic folks beg to be rejoined with the benevolent Rus Empire...doesn't matter at all because nobody is walking away...they all got unbridled lust for war and psychotic egos...

And morons back here are missing out a prime opportunity to exert The Putin Doctrine in our own continent and let them have their broken toys back...poor dumb bastards.  The real partitioning is going to be West and East with the idiot Euro's trapped in the middle...ought to be looking to that and grab now what you can or be left with nothing but crap in your hands...

Screw Putin, Screw Biden, Screw Euro's, Screw China...Screw Everybody.

ETA - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-airlines-told-prepare-world-without-gps

If foot have other shoe, Russian would do raise price or turn off switch? 

[Libertas]

Many happy screw yourself returns rolling in...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-ready-cooperate-un-safety-ukraine-civilians-guterres-makes-controversial-visit

How bold, in mop-up phase... 

EU to go zero Rus oil & gas by 2027...

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/european-union-cut-russian-oil-and-gas-imports-zero-2027

Bet Ivan shortens that a bit more...

 

And in rapid succession...

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/russia-halts-natural-gas-supplies-poland-european-energy-prices-spike-local-reports

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/polish-pm-says-warsaw-has-delivered-tanks-ukraine

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/major-reversal-after-warning-nuclear-war-germany-approves-tanks-ukraine

Everybody keeps throwing in more chips...never have so many deserved each other so thoroughly!   

Economic war, war of words, real war...everybody craves it...

[Libertas]

All participants still appear to be very interested in letting the hate flow through them...

Potential for escalation...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-backs-right-ukraine-attack-russian-territory-while-kremlin-warns-proportional

And it appears the link up to captured territory in South Ukraine is firing up...the Moldovan separatists throwing words around like "terrorist" and the "poor oppressed Russian-speaking peoples"...



Go long on expanded violence...it is inevitable.

PS - Man, did RivetJoint have a very interesting route through the Baltic states this morning...!

[patentlymn]

^^^^
UK "Let's you and him fight."

[Libertas]

It's trending to tag-team no-holds-barred action...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/ukraine-shot-down-russian-plane-with-help-from-us-intel-report

And...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-warns-quick-response-if-west-intervenes-ukraine

And...

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/russia-says-it-destroyed-large-batch-western-weapons-ship-launched-missiles

It would be nice if all assholes on all sides only perished...unfortunately that's not how a lot of war's among megalomaniacs and imbeciles usually go...

[Libertas]

Must be adequately re-supplied now...

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/ukraine-says-russia-increasing-pace-attack-almost-all-directions

...the consolidation push is on...

Well, expecting an up-tick in violence...and the increased chances for the spillover effect...The Spicy could be just warming up...

[patentlymn]

Had roku on
Poland may invade western UA but not as part of NATO? As a 'peace keeping' force or to mess with Russia or grab Lviv a historically Polish part of UA?

Poland to get Russian gas in reverse flow from Germany?
Finland says no Russian gas but they use very little. Mostly hydro power?
RU 1Q financials up. Double the gas/oil revenue. Balance of payments etc. is great since people cannot buy much from outside.
RU can control the Rubles-Euro exchange rate with their gas for rubles scheme.
Germany seized Gasprom assets in Germany. So RU says no gas for German gasprom.

[Libertas]

Well, back in the day...(European history is replete with shifting geographic control via war and alliance)...the Austro-Hungarian Empire dominated most of Europe until WWI as we all know...including Western Ukraine, and they used the Poles as Administrators in all civil service professions...and Polish was the official language of the bureaucracy, so you see there is a history of revulsion bred into the locals at always being forced to speak foreign languages instead of their own...anyway, I have a familial history of such matters I think many are aware of that newer members may not be.

Anyway...glad my ancestor GTFO long ago...

The Euro's seem to be good on their word, decoupling from Rus energy, but I suspect that for now it is convenient, as the hemisphere transits from Spring to Summer...Fall isn't far off so whatever plans they have to move on have to begin yesterday...

But, the flush of passion for conflict remains high on all sides.

As for Norway...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/norway-boosts-military-drills-north-increases-emergency-preparedness-citing-ukraine

...it dovetails with increased activity I've seen from Cyprus to the Arctic Circle and from Iceland to Eastern Europe.

And this morning the heavy-lift and tanker traffic here, over pond and Europe is very active.

https://youtu.be/0Onro8PPfdU

I'd say the message to the UN is... 

[patentlymn]

I read that Poland may use Russian gas via Germany via "reverse flow." Finland uses very low gas overall (%) but their gas is mostly Russian (75%). Maybe they use hydro power.  Russia does not like the reverse flow but I do not understand whey they care. Such gas is bought under the gas for rubles plan in either case.

Many countries say they will reduce gas sold to countries not under contract if they export the gas. E.b. Algeria gas to Spain?

Germany seizes Gazprom facilities in Germany so Russia said no gas for them. IMO Bulgaria will cave.

Ruble is best for a long time. 71 USD.

https://youtu.be/x-_hIw419_E
Putin "lightning-fast'" warning. Ursula has a gas plan. Masha & Bear canceled. Update 1
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Watch the first 30 of recent senile Biden.
https://youtu.be/nRxpf0cGweU

https://youtu.be/MvyMSuT3mJc
Russia says Poland plans to occupy west Ukraine. Biden, Trudeau plan to seize assets. Update 2

[Libertas]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/22-year-old-marine-turned-mercenary-becomes-1st-american-die-fighting-russia-ukraine

Well, no...CNN will not dox an ally and anger their masters higher up in The Cabal...but odds are it is the subs of Apollo Management Group who bought Constellis (Triple Canopy-Academi merger 2014, Academi nee Blackwater) would be the odds on favorite.

And only a low-life would heap derision upon the young man and his surviving wife and child...clearly he thought he was doing the right thing, but this is a conflict no American, active duty or veteran should have been involved with.  I despise the suffering of the native people, but injecting Americans into a Ukrainian/Russian Slavic-blood-feud was never going to alleviate that.  About all an American could do is probably limited to helping civilians where possible with aid and scream at their leaders at home for being imbeciles.

[Libertas]

Speaking of imbeciles...

And what is now America’s goal with our massive infusion into the Ukraine war of new and heavier NATO weapons?

Said Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on his return from a Sunday meeting in Kyiv with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy:

The United States wants “to see Russia weakened to the point where it can’t do things like invade Ukraine.”

“Russia,” said Austin, has “already lost a lot of military capability and a lot of its troops … and we want to see them not have the capability to very quickly reproduce that capability.”

Thus, the new, or newly revealed, goal of U.S. policy in Ukraine is not just the defeat and retreat of the invading Russian army but the crippling of Russia as a world power.

The sanctions imposed on Russia and the advanced weapons we are shipping into Ukraine are not only to enable the country to preserve its independence and territorial integrity but also to inflict irreversible damage on Mother Russia.

Putin’s Russia is not to recover soon or ever from the beating we intend to administer, using Ukrainians to deliver the beating, over an extended period of time.

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu has seen through to the true objectives of some NATO allies:

“There are countries within NATO that want the Ukraine war to continue. They see the continuation of the war as weakening Russia. They don’t care much about the situation in Ukraine.”

But to increase steadily and substantially the losses to Russia’s economy, as well as its military, the war must go on longer.

And a long war translates into ever-greater losses to the Ukrainians who are alone in paying the price in blood of defeating Russia.

Is Austin committed to fighting this war to the last Ukrainian?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/buchanan-will-putin-submit-us-imposed-weakening

Well...yeah.  The Cabal needs war, period.  Peace isn't advancing their goals.  See Pelosi tie another fat aid package to Ukraine to (their intentional) "scamdemic" relief?

It's called "all-in".

As Putin's bluff of going nuclear...he ought to know how batshyt-crazy folks running our occupation government are...they don't care if Putin uses nukes, as long as he uses them first...the Russians are insane if they think the threat of nukes will deter these people from rendering their conventional forces depleted and demoralized...what Putin should be doing is looking for a quick exit strategy...and so far they are not being quick about anything but issuing threats...

Seems to me the brilliant 4-D chessmaster has been exposed...he's making it easier not harder for our occupation leadership here...

[Libertas]

The not so secret secret...both sides are using private contractors for all sorts of stuff...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-ukraine-contract-private-sector-spy-firms-target-moscows-forces

Too bad nobody using these outfits to help secure the Southern border that the illegitimate and totally corrupt and despotic JoeFraud regime is ignoring and exacerbating...
 

As the risks of escalation increase, Noam Chomsky just gave an interview in which he declared the only possible exit is a pan-European security structure for all to join, or Helsinki 2.0 - and the one statesman who he says could make that deal happen is “Donald J. Trump”.
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However, Chomsky is likely wrong in that this particular Helsinki 2.0 ship looks to have sailed, as Finland moves to join NATO, for example - one of the few ships that actually can sail, as global supply logjams build up again.

There is war; no trust; increasingly deranged speech; and lack of end-game vision from both sides. Even if Russia did sign up to a new Helsinki, somehow, it would just alienate China,… unless the new Helsinki is a global free-for-all. In which case, why bother?
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/rabo-there-war-no-trust-deranged-speech-and-lack-endgame-vision-both-sides

Just more confirmation neither side is talking or interested in talking...it is the time of actions speaking and words only good for threats...and more proof to me that the rogue occupation government in America is the most unsane variable is made more dangerous by the fact that either because Putin is unable to resist pressing matters or driven to press matters out of personal concern for his own welfare from the likes of hardliners like Patrushev...the trajectory towards a wider conflict grow by the minute...



A recent Russian state TV program has stirred outrage and made headlines across the United Kingdom after a television presenter featured a simulated demonstration of how the Russian navy's nuclear submarines would take out the UK with ease.

The segment aired late last week on public broadcaster "Channel One" and featured the chairman of the nationalist Rodina political party, Aleksey Zhuravlyov, who declared that "one Sarmat missile and the British Isles will be no more."

Specifically under discussion was the UK's military support to Ukraine. London was earliest out of the gate to publicize it's repeat planeloads of weapons, including anti-tank systems and munitions, flown into Ukraine.

That's when the segment transitioned to news anchor Dmitry Kiselyov describing the following as a graphic of a submarine played behind him:

"It approaches its target at a depth of 1km at a speed of 200km/h. There's no way of stopping this underwater drone. The warhead on it has a yield of up to 100 megatons."

"The explosion of this thermonuclear torpedo by Britain's coastline will cause a gigantic tsunami wave up to 500m high."

The clip from the segment, which is now being widely shared in the West...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1521069215691812864

He then said the UK could be turned into "a radioactive desert" in the most provocative moment of the program:

"Such a barrage alone also carries extreme doses of radiation. Having passed over the British Isles, it will turn what might be left of them into a radioactive desert.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-tv-warns-britain-can-be-drowned-radioactive-tsunami-single-nuclear-sub-strike

[Libertas]

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/ukraine-missile-attack-just-misses-secretive-visit-russias-top-general-front-line

As Maxwell Smart would say "missed it by that much".

[Libertas]

Rus rolling the armor in on Azovstal...

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/final-showdown-azovstal-firefights-breakout-azov-fighters-emerge-steel-plant

...warming temps should redden the ground...

[Libertas]

Hmmm...appears Czar Vlad might be in poor health again...

Speculation over Russian President Vladimir Putin’s health has been rekindled by rumors that the 69-year-old leader will have surgery for cancer, according to a former senior military official.

The unverified claim was reported on Russian media outlet General SVR, reports The Sun.

“Putin has discussed that he will be undergoing medical procedures,” the outlet said, quoting an anonymous former high-ranking Kremlin military figure.

“Doctors insist that he needs an operation, but the date has not yet been determined,” the source added. However, it is unlikely to be before Victory Day on May 9, when Putin will preside over commemorations of the defeat of Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany.

Rumors of the Russian leader’s failing health are not new. In Nov. 2020, Russian political scientist Valery Solovei claimed that Putin had Parkinson’s disease and abdominal cancer, undergoing surgery for the latter in Feb. 2020.

Awkward recent public appearances by Putin have led observers to increasingly ask whether he is ill. One Apr. 23 video shows his hand and leg trembling during a meeting with Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko. 

The Russian president has also been taking meetings at a comically long table, which observers believe is a way to maintain social distancing.

"I have no idea if Putin has cancer. But I do know that Putin has never before been germ phobic and the huge space between him and visitors is the degree of social distancing that doctors recommend to cancer patients, who are almost all immunosuppressed," tweeted veteran U.S. journalist Jonathan Alter.

The Kremlin source confirmed the previous reports.

“We know very well that he has cancer, and Parkinson's disease, as we have said many times,” the source said.

A few names have emerged as potential successors for Putin. The Kremlin official said that power would be transferred to Nikolai Patrushev, a key architect of the Ukraine invasion. In March, a report said that some Russian elites were plotting to install Alexander Bortnikov, head of Russia’s Federal Security Service, in Putin’s place.

Bortnikov is no angel...but preferable over the psychotic Patrushev...who knows, Medvedev is still around and another candidate could surface...but like everywhere...whoever is obedient to the shot-callers will get the title...

[Libertas]

Rus are slamming Lviv with cruise missiles again, just seems more of them. 

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/barrage-cruise-missiles-rock-western-city-lviv-sections-plunged-darkness

And there is only 2 reasons to attack that far West - 1) Kill civilians and demoralize the people & 2) Hit the munitions coming in from the West and cripple logistics moving them East...and I reckon Ivan don't care about 1 if 2 works.

[patentlymn]

There is a good telegram channel that covers the UA war.
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/1093

also kinda
https://t.me/brianlovethailand/381

[Libertas]

Pretty much the dumbest headline and article ever...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/time-nato-better-take-putins-ukraine-warnings-seriously

...what in Ted's experience at Anti-War (snort!) or anywhere leads him to believe the corrupt illegitimate government in DC or the petty vacillating screwed no matter what Euro's give a rats ass about what Russia wants?  Hell, even Russia isn't getting what Russia wants because they are enabling their foes!

Heck, what makes him think Russia is much more stable?  Patrushev is aroused by war...and Lavrov is so locked in on Rus propaganda he just insulted Israel right in front of their foreign minister:

It all started during an interview Lavrov did with Italian TV on Sunday, but which was quickly picked up in international press. US and European officials have also expressed outrage.

"As to [Zelenskiy’s] argument of what kind of nazification can we have if I’m Jewish, if I remember correctly, and I may be wrong, Hitler also had Jewish blood," Lavrov said when asked about the Kremlin's 'denazification' justification for its invasion. "It doesn’t mean anything at all," he added.

Lavrov went on to explain that the “most rabid antisemites tend to be Jews.” Moscow for its part has been outraged that for years Western media and politicians have been cheerleading far-right nationalist groups in Ukraine that have long been widely acknowledged as neo-Nazi in ideology, also often unashamedly flashing swastikas for cameras. Lavrov said the following:

“We have for a long time listened to the wise Jewish people who say that the most rabid antisemites tend to be Jews,” and added, “There is no family without a monster.”

Israel quickly summoned the Russian ambassador Monday and demanded an apology over the statements.

But Russia instead doubled-down, charging Israel with in effect supporting “the neo-Nazi regime in Kyiv” in fresh Tuesday statements.

According to more from Russia's foreign ministry:

On Tuesday, the Russian Foreign Ministry charged "the Jewish origins of the president (Zelensky) is not a guarantee of protection against rampant neo-Nazism in the country."

"Ukraine, may it be said in passing, is not the only one in this case," the Ministry said, citing Latvian President Egils Levits who "has also Jewish roots and he also gives cover... to the rehabilitation of the Waffen SS in his country."

Israel's Foreign Minister Lapid had earlier on Monday called Lavrov’s "remarks are both an unforgivable and outrageous statement as well as a terrible historical error," and the controversy reached Prime Minister Bennett's office, who called Lavrov's remarks "lies."

Nice.  Once again shows how dark the Russian mind is...and how fragile and desperate they are to preserve their idealized ego.  That's how ya win friends and allies, eh?
 

Oh, and (cough!) Dmitry "Wagner" Utkin (cough!) winner of not one, not two but four Orders of Courage!

Ohh, yeah...deranged bastards on all sides...yeah this will not end in an irradiated lifeless planet...

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[Libertas]

As I warned...things heating up in Moldova...

For much of the past two weeks Russia and Ukraine have exchanged accusations over a series of unexplained explosions in the Transnistria region, which is host to some 1,500 Russian "peacekeeping" troops (most of which are said to be Transnistrian separatists holding Russian passports). Ukraine's defense ministry called the destabilizing incidents a "planned provocation" designed to justify a greater Russian military intervention.

Internationally recognized as part of Moldova, the breakaway republic of Transnistria has population of nearly 500,000 - but is seen by some Western analysts as potentially serving as a launching point for Russian destabilizing action against Moldova. Russia's troop presence there goes all the way back to 1992 in support of the separatists.

And now on Wednesday it seems the region is coming more and more into the spotlight related to the war across the border in Ukraine, given the European Union says it is now exploring options for ramping up military support to Moldova. Moldova has just an estimated 6,000 regular forces in its military.

"The European Union is considering ways to further boost Moldova’s military, EU Council President Charles Michel said Wednesday, following recent attacks in the country’s pro-Moscow breakaway region of Transnistria," CNN reports. And further:

Speaking alongside Moldova’s president Maia Sandu in Chisinau, Michel said “some decisions” have already been taken to enhance support in the fields of logistics and cyber defense.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eu-mulls-military-support-moldova-russia-accused-provocations-breakaway-transnistria

And Finland, Sweden, the Baltic states and Poland remain in play for future festivities...I see no reason to expect otherwise.

[Libertas]

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/russias-largest-shipper-races-sell-third-fleet-satisfy-western-loans

Interesting.  Well, Euro's did the total Rus oil ban too.

And this is more proof that the batshyt-crazy on all sides are on an inescapable collision...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/long-lucrative-bloody-road-world-war-3

...and we can argue who is crazier and who is more delusional till we pass out...but it doesn't matter...

The general consensus seems to be along the lines this Freeman fella puts forth - the US is to blame -

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/long-lucrative-bloody-road-world-war-3

OK, let's agree with that 100%. 

It leaves only two questions:

1)  It means Russia is justified in nuking the US, which ensures everybody gets nuked.
2)  It means only Russia can diffuse the situation, which most seem to agree is impossible for them to do.

Either way, for the world it means the same thing - SCREWED!

Which begs one final question - Then why write this crap?  Only a completely brain-dead person thinks admonishing the unadmonishable over what they're doing will change what they are doing...and only an imbecile thinks pinning blame will matter when nobody survives to GAFF anyway!

Damn, and I read the stupid link and posted it...   

Sorry!