Author Topic: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine (Read 96051 times)

patentlymn · « **Reply #1700 on:** September 20, 2023, 10:04:21 AM »

^^^
That NYT piece was a big change. They normally report anything the Kiev govt says as fact. IMO the NYT is a mouthpiece for the WH.

I wonder if the missile strike was accidental or intentional for the Blincken visit? It is a pro RU area under Kiev control. Back when I watched too many telegram videos I saw plenty of Ukr troop social media posts where they boast of shelling the pro RU residential areas not under their control to drive the subhumans off the land.

Patrick Lancaster, US ex pat, was doing freelance reporting for some western MSM from Donbass. He stopped after they changed his reporting. He would take videos of some civilian residential areas in Donbass recently shelled or rocket attacked by Kiev. They would change it to say RU did it.

I read that Tucker Carlson was briefly on the Ukr kill list but they removed him.

patentlymn · « **Reply #1701 on:** September 20, 2023, 12:32:48 PM »

https://t.me/ukraine_watch/8924

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??🇺🇦🇺🇳Zelensky presented his vision for the reform of the UN, proposing that the General Assembly be given the right to override the veto of the permanent members of the Security Council.

In his view, the veto should be overridden by two-thirds of the votes of the countries represented in the UN General Assembly. "And such a General Assembly resolution should be binding on all member states," he believes.

Zelensky spoke in Ukrainian, which is not an official UN language.

1. I think this means that there were no UN translators so most present could not understand what he said.
2. Russian is the native language of Zelensky. His Ukrainian sucks.

patentlymn · « **Reply #1702 on:** September 20, 2023, 01:20:12 PM »

ttps://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/09/19/exclusive-american-citizen-journalist-sitting-in-ukraine-prison-state-dept-confirms-as-biden-begs-for-billions-more-to-protect-ukraine-freedom/
Exclusive: American Citizen Journalist Sitting in Ukraine Prison, State Dept. Confirms, as Biden Begs for Billions More to Protect Ukrainian ‘Freedom’

https://youtu.be/7dpxvyWksRA
JD Vance, Gonzalo hostage. Elensky, UN panic. Pashinyan green T. Duda-Elensky bromance ends. U/1
Alex Christoforou

patentlymn · « **Reply #1703 on:** September 20, 2023, 02:06:22 PM »

Poland and Ukr are not getting along well. Mutual threats of trade actions. Ukraine taking Pol to court. Also in 2024 Pol will end free stuff for Ukr people in Pol. Ukr will block Pol goods from Ukr.
https://youtu.be/7dpxvyWksRA?t=1954

https://www.rt.com/news/583259-poland-veiled-threat-ukraine/
Polish President Andrzej Duda has said Kiev should not forget the crucial role Poland plays in Western military aid to Ukraine. The veiled threat came after cash-strapped Ukraine launched legal action against Warsaw over Poland’s embargo on imports of Ukrainian grain.

“It would be good for Ukraine to remember that it receives help from us and to remember that we are also a transit country to Ukraine,” Duda told reporters on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York on Tuesday.

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🇺🇦 In the coming days, Ukraine will block the import of some Polish vegetables and fruits in response to the ban on the import of Ukrainian goods - Deputy Minister of Economy of Ukraine Kachka

The Ukrainian side states that the ban on the import of Polish products is being introduced as a response to the embargo on Ukrainian agricultural products. The embargo will be imposed on onions, tomatoes, cabbage and apples.

📝 “Poland has no right to introduce such measures,” Kaczka said.

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Deputy Minister of Economy of Ukraine Taras Kachka said that in the coming days the authorities will introduce an embargo on the supply of certain types of agricultural products from Poland.

The measure will be introduced in response to Poland’s unilateral extension of the ban on the import of Ukrainian grain.

Libertas · « **Reply #1704 on:** September 21, 2023, 07:57:14 AM »

Poles are feeling cocky being the new military staging point for US supplies and personnel...a cockiness not experienced since they were the middle management muscle bossing around the peasants of the Austro-Hungarian Empire...Ukrainians are remembering what it was like being slaves under them and the Soviets...

SSDD

PS-Let us see how this affects Poland's status with the US - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-fractures-u-turn-poland-announces-will-no-longer-arm-ukraine

And then there is this... https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gop-lawmakers-warn-white-house-ukraine-aid-mccarthy-vows-confront-zelensky

patentlymn · « **Reply #1705 on:** September 21, 2023, 10:41:05 AM »

Poland compares Ukr to drowning man.
https://youtu.be/4W0YZ6D-ABU?t=1207

patentlymn · « **Reply #1706 on:** September 21, 2023, 10:52:46 AM »

https://www.rt.com/news/583329-polish-mp-bills-ukraine/
Polish MP ‘bills’ Ukraine $23 billion for support
The stunt was intended as a rebuke to Kiev, which is suing Warsaw for imposing a ban on Ukrainian grain imports

patentlymn · « **Reply #1707 on:** September 21, 2023, 11:30:59 AM »

Is it certain that RU bought 10M shells from NK? BTW US got 500K shells from SK. Now SK has fit when RU and NK cooperate? If just buying shells why would they care? Maybe US is pissed and SK is a US puppet?
Any thoughts on accuracy of content below?

https://voxday.net/2023/09/21/the-artillery-dilemma/
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Artillery is the king of the battlefield again, accounting for 85 percent of the casualties in Ukraine.
One 155mm round made in the USA by USA contractors costs 5,500 dollars, while a 152mm round made in Russia costs 600 dollars.
One 152mm made in North Korea probably costs less than 60 dollars. The Russians just bought 10 million of them, and due to their oil production, can afford to buy as many shells as the North Koreans can make.
Outsourcing ammunition production to China is not exactly an option these days.
...

Libertas · « **Reply #1708 on:** September 21, 2023, 12:23:52 PM »

Proximity to resources and indentured in all but name labor are a boon for some...

patentlymn · « **Reply #1709 on:** September 22, 2023, 06:25:58 PM »

An American GI is a field in Moldova.
A farmer asks why he is here in his field. I cannot understand his fractured English,
https://t.me/heilukraine1959/6142
Where you from?
America.
America? What you doing here?
??
Go home.
I'm here to help.
You help me? [he laughs] You make war here. You here. Russia soldier no here.

patentlymn · « **Reply #1710 on:** September 23, 2023, 05:39:10 PM »

weird.
https://t.me/VampireSix/710
🇨🇦🇺🇦 Listen to this reporter commenting on Zelensky's visit to Canada...

Then listen again and something will feel a little off.

That's because she says the veteran receiving the standing ovation fought against the Russians in the Second World War.

Yes, because the 98 year old "veteran" is Yaroslav Hunka, who fought for the 14th division of the Waffen SS.

Libertas · « **Reply #1711 on:** September 25, 2023, 08:07:43 AM »

So much stuff to not care about I am overwhelmed with an increasing level of don't GAFF.

patentlymn · « **Reply #1712 on:** September 25, 2023, 10:24:06 AM »

Get the popcorn. Canadian parliament gives a standing ovation to a Canadian former SS soldier. Poles are not amused. LMAO.

https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwar/comments/16rn7ci/poland_will_not_tolerate_the_whitewashing_of_the/

The story of how 2000 SS soldiers were admitted into Canada, who refused to admit anyone who voluntarily served in the WWII German army.

http://espritdecorps.ca/history-feature/the-rcaf-officer-who-brought-hitlers-waffen-ss-to-canada
The RCAF Officer Who Brought Hitler’s Waffen SS to Canada
October 30, 2020

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Panchuk was able to get members of the 14th Waffen SS Division Galicia into Canada by lying about their past.
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The British government also knew only cursory background checks had been conducted into the division members and their activities during the war. In 2005 the release of new documents from the British archives outlined the extent of the efforts in the late 1940s to pawn off members of 14th Waffen SS Division Galicia on to Canada. “What little we know of their war record is bad,” wrote Beryl Hughes, who was handling the issue for Britain’s Home Office. “We’re still hoping to get rid of the less desirable Ukrainian PoWs either to Germany or Canada,” Hughes added in another note in 1948.
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But pressure from the nationalist Ukrainian lobby in Canada as well as the British government was too great and Panchuk was successful. As many as 2,000 members of 14th SS Division Galicia arrived in Canada in the 1950s and immediately started to whitewash and cover up their past.

Libertas · « **Reply #1713 on:** September 25, 2023, 10:34:15 AM »

Canada's problem, don't GAFF. But I do find it hilarious that the bogus ADL hasn't denounced it...yet again shows their tainted stripes.

ToddF · « **Reply #1714 on:** September 25, 2023, 12:27:42 PM »

Bonus points for this evil ditz participating in the applause.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1706050243857371646

Libertas · « **Reply #1715 on:** September 25, 2023, 03:55:12 PM »

Quote from: ToddF on September 25, 2023, 12:27:42 PM

Bonus points for this evil ditz participating in the applause.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1706050243857371646

A truly repugnant slab of spoiled Canadian bacon...

patentlymn · « **Reply #1716 on:** September 27, 2023, 01:21:20 PM »

Weird. Dreizin earlier said tht the Polish politicians are mostly posturing and will revert to form after the elections.

https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/09/26/to-the-blockheads-who-still-dont-get-what-dreizin-is-about/
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Again…..

“Don’t give us this rubbish about the need of educated immigration… We don’t need your doctors, your engineers. Take them, take them all, and pay for them. We don’t need them.”

LOL. Sure, he doesn’t need any more doctors, because AFTER Poland lost thousands of doctors—and SEVERAL MILLION other workers—to the UK, France, etc., in the 2000’s…..

…..it SAVED itself by importing just as many (or more) Ukrainians after 2014.

There are now tens of thousands of Ukrainian doctors, nurses, pharmacists, therapists, psychologists, etc. in Poland.

Some second- and third-tier Polish cities are now literally ONE-QUARTER “Ukrainian” (almost all of them, Russian-speaking, LOL. It’s a Russian invasion!)

Immigration gave Poland a new lease on life.

(Sure, it’s not Third World immigration. But, this guy is talking about doctors and engineers. I assume he DOES NOT mean Afghans, LOL.)

Of course, FEW of these people—and ALMOST NONE of the pre-2022 immigrants, specifically—want to ever go back to Uncle Sam’s 51st state.

If they have kids, their kids are in Polish schools, becoming Polish.

If any want to leave Poland, it’s only to move further west.

As for Poland’s present “spat” with the Ukraine…..

…..this is also about the election.

They’ve said they won’t give any more weapons to the Ukraine.

Yeah, duh, because they have nothing more to give!

They had nothing more to give, even a month ago, two months ago, LOL. They didn’t make a big deal of it, then, because the election was further away.

They will certainly make up with the Ukraine (to some extent) after their election.

P.S. Looking at the Twitter graphic: “One of the lowest debts in Europe” is… rich! When you receive around €11.4 billion a year in net transfer payments (over and above your contributions to the EU) from the EU… which covers or offsets TEN PERCENT of your state budget… not to mention, €1.5-1.6 billion a year in low-interest loans… it’s somewhat easier not to go into debt, no?

To anyone who’s THAT tone-deaf…..

patentlymn · « **Reply #1717 on:** September 28, 2023, 01:12:37 PM »

https://humanevents.com/2023/09/27/ukrainian-trans-fighter-sarah-ashton-cirillo-duped-into-interview-with-russian-prankster-duo-calls-for-ukrainian-special-forces-to-conduct-attacks-on-russian-propagandists-tv-hosts-after-kill-list-controversy

Ukrainian trans fighter 'Sarah' Ashton-Cirillo duped into interview with Russian prankster duo, calls for Ukrainian special forces to conduct attacks on Russian propagandists, TV hosts after kill list controversy

by: Jessica Barshis 09/27/2023

Ukrainian trans fighter 'Sarah' Ashton-Cirillo duped into interview with Russian prankster duo, calls for Ukrainian special forces to conduct attacks on Russian propagandists, TV hosts after kill list controversy

A video was released on Wednesday by notorious Russian pranksters Vovan and Lexus in which they successfully tricked volunteer servicemember Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, the trans-identified male former spokesperson for Ukraine, into believing he was speaking to former president and People’s Deputy Petro Poroshenko.
:lolh:
Two calls were made and recorded both prior to Ashton-Cirillo's being dismissed as spokesperson and after.
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He continued, “The Russians are not European Russians, as Mr. Danilov was clear to say Russians have a different culture Russians are Asian. And ultimately, they do come from the Mongols.”

“They do come from a grouping of people who are wanting to be slaves and want to be led.”
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Libertas · « **Reply #1718 on:** September 28, 2023, 02:06:15 PM »

Of more interesting note - the Rus' neo-nazi mercs are back...good 'ol Wagner...but according to the Rus sources not near where Kyiv says they are...but they are in the SMO theater...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/is-wagner-pmc-returning-fighters-supposedly-disbanded-group/

Okie dokie...let's get the neo-nazi on neo-nazi festivities going!!!

patentlymn · « **Reply #1719 on:** September 28, 2023, 03:13:34 PM »

Good Hitler in the bunker meme. They morphed Zelensky's face onto Hitler.
https://t.me/southfronteng/38712