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Libertas:
I know Weisshaupt has brought up the possibility in other thread discussions we've had around here, but the more I think about it the more concerned I am that perhaps we are not paying as much attention to this as perhaps we should...we all half-joke about the government and progressives literally coming to kill us, but what if in fact they really are planning just that?  Are we prepared for that?  I would suggest we are far from prepared for that because we: a) have difficulty thinking along these lines in general and b) have even more difficulty in thinking along these lines in particular.

I am not intentionally being cryptic, just trying to set the table as best I can.

Before we can get to the particulars we need to establish the possibility that our enemies are in fact trying to kill us.  Once we accept that as a certainty the rest is easier to address. 

First, why would they kill us if they can just avoid us, marginalize us, enslave us, pen us up or just expel us?   Good questions, an equally good question would be "Why would they bother with anything other than killing us?", right?  I mean all the other entails administrative bureaucracy, time, resources in material and manpower...killing, as Hitler, Stalin et al showed, is simple cost-effective and quick.

Second, how can they kill us all, are not millions of us prepared to various extents to sufficiently frustrate plans to come for us in any overt manner?  On the face of it this appears the most compelling reason to discount this fear and the one I am thinking most people are more than open to embracing.  (See reasons "a" & "b" above)  But avoidance, while comfortable for a time, is often self-delusion to certain undeniable facts...and self-delusion in this case will be fatal.  I believe that it is this sense that we are prepared at present that is providing a false sense of security to us on the one hand and inviting an even greater risk on the other.  Our enemies know millions of us are prepared for overt action and their actions to date (arming up every agency and department on hand and having an all-powerful intelligence apparatus in place for example) seem to indicate clearly that they know.  That West Point and other military organizations and Federal departments list us as likely terrorist movements is another indicator of their paranoia.  IN this case their paranoia may be justified but greatly misplaced.  We know it is state divergence from and hostility to Founding Principles and those who support them is the reason for our prudence and vigilance...it is frustrating to us that elements within the state are unable to see this, or worse yet see it and do nothing to reverse it, that compels us to do what we are doing to preserve our freedom and liberty.  They have chosen to not join us in preserving freedom and liberty for all, they have chosen to combat it.  Therefor we can only conclude that all of their actions are being driven solely to eliminate the threat to them, and they think because they control the organs of state that their actions no matter what they may be are legitimate.

Third, you may ask how can they possibly assure themselves that all elements within the state apparatus will go along with mass murder?  The simple answer is they cannot.  But that is not the deal-killer people think it may be.  History is replete with examples of the unthinkable and horrific becoming reality in short order, and it doesn't take an especially large or even well-trained group to effect such events, all it takes is the will to do so and the people willing to carry it out...or be replaced for those who can.  As we will see the deeper we go into the unthinkable the more clear the choice is for enemies of liberty.

Lastly, how can they kill so many and get away with it?  The answer lies within the solution as much as within the lessons of history.  For the truly despotic to seize power in this age means upping the level of evil exponentially.  There have always been despots battling others for more land, wealth, power and control.  Each succeeding generation seems to get better at it than the last.  Technological advances beyond mans ability to govern fits into this as well.  The twentieth century saw plenty along both lines, the advent of nuclear annihilation seems to have hit an equilibrium, but that is nothing more than the simple fact that real fear works quite well in moderating behavior.  If vulnerabilities arise that too shall make the use of such ultimately devastating weapons possible.  But not in this case.

Our enemies can neither nuke us or hope to overtake us by conventional force without incurring heavy costs to themselves.  It is my great fear we have arrived at the only solution left to them, the hope that they will come to their senses and back down seems unlikely, the reigns of power mean everything to them, it is their God, it cannot be let go under any circumstances, so the unthinkable will be entirely thinkable to them.  They can end all debate over power and control, resources...everything...if they can only manage to kill millions of people off.  And I do not limit them to national boundaries.  And for our purposes that debate is not immediately germane to the issue at hand.

Are we really prepared for what awaits us?

As I see it their only option is to throw most all of the babies out with the bath water.  They'll kill as many (or more) of their so-called own as us, and they'll have to do it by introducing chemical and/or biological agents.

How do we guard against that?  NBC suits are costly and not generally available to the public, we can get gas masks and the like, but what about things like access to the proper vaccines, medicines like Cipro, Atropine and Epinephrine?  We can stock iodine, peroxide and bleach for decontamination, but what really do we have access to?  These are the questions I think we need to explore.  Everything starts with survival, if we can't do that all else is moot.

We should start collecting info and posting links...the latter can be hard, a cursory search reveals a plethora of "buy my book and learn how" crap to sort through!  It will require more eyes to pull things together on our own.

Not the most pleasant of discussions, I posted it here for members to digest, if it deemed appropriate for general consumption we can move to the TEOTWAWKI section.

AlanS:
How will they get us all? Easy. Determine that conservatism and Christianity are mental illnesses and come for us. Those that don't comply....

Weisshaupt:
If they use the WMD, then its over. We won't be able to fight that -- if they are willing to  poison  water, earth  and air over large areas or spread a plague,  you would need the resources of a state to combat it- huge underground areas with the ability to get their own power and food.  If you delve into the Illuminati stuff, the elites have a place in the underground cities with a vast assortment of aliens.

You just won't survive.  You won't get to offer anything but token resistance. I don't know how anyone could really prep for it..

KittenClaws:
I don't think they'll out and out kill us Libertas.

I think they are pushing buttons until we make the first move. That way the killing would be justified.  You see how they demonize patriotism; how conservatives are portrayed, we must become evil so they can be perceived as good.

Same as hitler did with the Jews.


No, they won't come gunning for us.  They want us to reach tipping point, they want us to shoot first.  I won't give them the satisfaction.

When THEY feel froggy, let them jump.

AmericanPatriot:
Interesting thought process, Libertas, and not without some merit.
It's certainly as plausible as any other scenario.

If you look at this only as a left/right or tyranny/freedom battle, it seems far fetched.
However, if you look at it as good vs evil or Light vs darkness, it isn't at all far-fetched.

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