It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => General Board => Topic started by: LadyVirginia on March 05, 2012, 11:06:19 AM
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I have to leave in a few minutes but I'm staying until Rush starts his show. I'm starting this thread so we have one place to discuss the show today.
I hope I'm not disappointed.
According to Breitbart.com 7 advertisers have left Rush's show. When I get back home I guess I'll be emailing those 7 companies.
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Here we go.
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In fighting them last week, I became like them...
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He opened by saying Two if by Tea is still an advertiser.
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He begins by saying all the theories about the apology are wrong.
He says his mistake was becoming like "them" -- the people we oppose. He descended to their level. He feels bad about it.
The words he used distracted from his point. He doesn't think she is either of those two words.
His apology was sincere.
That was his motive--a heartfelt apology.
Now he's doing a timeline of events.
Have to go now...
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Thanks, LV.
See you later.
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"The Democrats decided they wanted Sandra Fluck... is it "Fluck" now, is that how you pronounce it?"
::hysterical::
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Suggesting this (pronounced uck) Flucke thing is a distraction from Issa's hearings.
It was a set up withdrawing Barry Lynn and putting in Flucke.
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So I'm to be let down?
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I'm tired that we have to live up to standards that the liberals don't even attempt to do. Screw them!
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So I'm to be let down?
Not necessarily, he's speaking as a sinner who fell into the evil ways of the opposition.
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Damn right radioman! I feel let down. WGAF if people think Rush descended to their level, so fricken what? Compare that to what Leftists say ALL THE DAMN TIME!!!!
::gaah::
Look at this sh*t!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/liberal-radio-host-mocks-storm-victims-their-god-keeps-smashing-them-into-little-grease-spots/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/liberal-radio-host-mocks-storm-victims-their-god-keeps-smashing-them-into-little-grease-spots/)
And the NYT is thrilled about advertisers leaving rush's show -
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/business/media/limbaugh-advertisers-flee-show-amid-storm.html?_r=2&partner=MYWAY&ei=5065 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/business/media/limbaugh-advertisers-flee-show-amid-storm.html?_r=2&partner=MYWAY&ei=5065)
Is this sincere apology bringing them back?
WTF did he gain?
We continue to fight by the Left's rules.
I'm beyond sick of this damn sh*t!
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"The Democrats decided they wanted Sandra Fluck... is it "Fluck" now, is that how you pronounce it?"
::hysterical::
Actually, it's Flook (as in book/look).
And I don't believe Rush gives a rat's patoot about the adve---
There now, that's exactly what he's saying now, it's not the advertisers' desertion.
Look guys, he believes he did wrong regardless of what WE think, so he manned up and issued a sincere apology and not one of those "IF you were offended ... " deals typical of the Left.
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So I'm to be let down?
Not necessarily, he's speaking as a sinner who fell into the evil ways of the opposition.
Seems a cop out to me.
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I'm sensing cop out also. He had this one chance to make the greatest display of double standards ever.
And he's blowing it. Of all the casualties of this election season, Rush is now number 1.
This county is so flucked, or flooked, or whatever.
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Yup. Flucked, Flooked, Flocked...
::falldownshocked::
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Theory number one, the big set up for the biggest see I told you so, evah! is a bust, so now it's time for theory #2
(http://home.comcast.net/~tfoster475/pwpimages/whipped1.jpg)
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Rush often tells the story of being accosted at a swank cocktail party in the Hamptons back when he was first becoming prominent. These northeastern RINO men were being nagged by their wives about Rush and "the Christians" in the party and their role against abortion.
How much of this could be coming from his new wife?
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And the NYT is thrilled about advertisers leaving rush's show -
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/business/media/limbaugh-advertisers-flee-show-amid-storm.html?_r=2&partner=MYWAY&ei=5065 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/business/media/limbaugh-advertisers-flee-show-amid-storm.html?_r=2&partner=MYWAY&ei=5065)
Is this sincere apology bringing them back?
He'd better hope that "Depends" will sponsor him because I think he's about ready to crap his drawers .
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He's not crapping his drawers, he, for all intents and purposes, told the cowardly sponsors to go fck themselves. This ought to be a lesson in who to allow to buy advertising time, though. Both heads of Carbonite and ProFlowers are Obama donors and should have received "no, thank you"s when they wanted to buy time in favor of companies with a vested interest in supporting conservatives. This is one way to keep the Left from achieving infiltration and influence where it does us harm.
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Levin needs to drop ProFlowers then. He hawks their crap all the time. And that place is an enormous ripoff. I used them last Mother's Day with the coupon code from Levin's show. My "$19.99" special ended up close to $60 by the time all the fees were added. By then it was really too late to get her something else, so I ate it that once. And I think their entire business model is built around one-time customers, because there is no way in hell I will ever get anything at ProFlowers again.
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Pan , I agree in principle but that's an awful lot of dough . Don't look for any big hitters to step in real soon to replace that loss . The MFM will be ready to jump all over anyone who does . Sad but true .
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He's not crapping his drawers, he, for all intents and purposes, told the cowardly sponsors to go fck themselves. This ought to be a lesson in who to allow to buy advertising time, though. Both heads of Carbonite and ProFlowers are Obama donors and should have received "no, thank you"s when they wanted to buy time in favor of companies with a vested interest in supporting conservatives. This is one way to keep the Left from achieving infiltration and influence where it does us harm.
Agreed, we need a list of drop outs. It may be legally difficult to refuse to advertise
a product especially if they are willing to pony up the asking price. He put Snapple
on the map and they dumped on him too.
ETA: Maha the wise one. On the View today, Fluke declined to accept his apology. There they go again, Rush
graciously apologizes then steps aside and they push the narrative harder and the media repeats it.
When are the media going mention the Dems substituted this shill for a scheduled witness at Issa's hearing?
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Pan , I agree in principle but that's an awful lot of dough . Don't look for any big hitters to step in real soon to replace that loss . The MFM will be ready to jump all over anyone who does . Sad but true .
Let 'em jump.
Let me axe you a question: before they bought time on conservative radio, whothehellever heard of Carbonite? ProFlowers? Like CO wrote, Rush put Snapple on the map. I heard a Geico ad, so apparently they stuck.
On the View today, Fluke declined to accept his apology. There they go again, Rush
graciously apologizes then steps aside and they push the narrative harder and the media repeats it.
Oh, she did, did she. Whore.
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Pan , I agree in principle but that's an awful lot of dough . Don't look for any big hitters to step in real soon to replace that loss . The MFM will be ready to jump all over anyone who does . Sad but true .
Let 'em jump.
Let me axe you a question: before they bought time on conservative radio, whothehellever heard of Carbonite? ProFlowers? Like CO wrote, Rush put Snapple on the map. I heard a Geico ad, so apparently they stuck.
And you know what happened to Snapple? Quaker Oats bought them and the company tanked and QO sold them for a lot less. Snapple disappeared for a long time but it seems they're coming back.
I suspect that when they quit advertising on Rush's show people stopped buying.
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From the number of comments at Hot Air, Gateway Pundit and Breitbart indicating doing business with the deserters is now a no-go, I suspect Carbonite et al. are going to find they've taken a hit to their bottom lines as well.
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Okay, campers...
Here is the definitive article (http://spectator.org/archives/2012/03/05/rally-for-rush/) on the "enemy" advertisers, who they really are and what to do about them.
Now get to work.
As noted earlier, what began with Don Imus, Lou Dobbs, and Glenn Beck has just hit Pat Buchanan.
It's time to fight back.
To take on Sleep Mattress, Sleep Number, Legal Zoom, Citrix, Quicken Loans, Carbonite and, now that they've caved, Pro-Flowers. And anybody else who wants to play this disgraceful blacklisting game with their customers.
To expose the hypocrisy and double standards. To make it crystal clear that that those who sell out our First Amendment rights to far left radicals are in fact going to be actively perceived as collaborating in a deliberate attack on their customers, real and potential.
It's time to stand up for free speech. To draw a line in the sand. And let these companies know that the blacklisting line stops with Rush.
It's time -- way past time -- to stand up to the blacklisting free speech bullies. By phone. By e-mail. Twitter, snail mail or whatever.
But however you do it?
It's time to Rally for Rush.
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Guarantee you they will all LOSE more conservatives as customers than they will GAIN liberals as approving new customers.
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Trap, at AS they say they link to a piece by Charles Johnson regarding Fluke at Breitbart's site, but it wasn't a direct link to the article and damned if I can find it. Did you?
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This will be my project tomorrow--I plan to contact them by phone and email.
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Okay, campers...
Here is the definitive article (http://spectator.org/archives/2012/03/05/rally-for-rush/) on the "enemy" advertisers, who they really are and what to do about them.
Now get to work.
As noted earlier, what began with Don Imus, Lou Dobbs, and Glenn Beck has just hit Pat Buchanan.
It's time to fight back.
To take on Sleep Mattress, Sleep Number, Legal Zoom, Citrix, Quicken Loans, Carbonite and, now that they've caved, Pro-Flowers. And anybody else who wants to play this disgraceful blacklisting game with their customers.
To expose the hypocrisy and double standards. To make it crystal clear that that those who sell out our First Amendment rights to far left radicals are in fact going to be actively perceived as collaborating in a deliberate attack on their customers, real and potential.
It's time to stand up for free speech. To draw a line in the sand. And let these companies know that the blacklisting line stops with Rush.
It's time -- way past time -- to stand up to the blacklisting free speech bullies. By phone. By e-mail. Twitter, snail mail or whatever.
But however you do it?
It's time to Rally for Rush.
I'm with you.....The backlash on these companies should have them cursing Ms fluck by end of week.
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This requires much more than our personal attention.
I despise chain emails but this is one situation in which I would approve of an exception. All of us have gotten chain emails from time to time. If you are like me they end with you and you do not pass them on. This is because by and large the content is bogus and ridiculous. Well, now it's time to return the favor to all those people who have sent you those nuisance communications. Send them out a well crafted letter that explains this situation and why it is essential that these companies be hit hard.
Don't stop there. As David Letterman would say, "Wake the neighbors and get the kids." Tell everyone you know. Do it by email and make it very easy for the recipient to contact the enemy. Send them to your family members. Send them to your friends. Send them to everyone you can think of.
Do it for Brietbart.
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Trap, at AS they say they link to a piece by Charles Johnson regarding Fluke at Breitbart's site, but it wasn't a direct link to the article and damned if I can find it. Did you?
Here is the link (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/02/29/hypocrisy-on-capitol-hill-deconstructing-a-dishonest-speech-about-birth-control) you were looking for.
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Trap, at AS they say they link to a piece by Charles Johnson regarding Fluke at Breitbart's site, but it wasn't a direct link to the article and damned if I can find it. Did you?
Here is the link (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/02/29/hypocrisy-on-capitol-hill-deconstructing-a-dishonest-speech-about-birth-control) you were looking for.
Thank YOU.
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Levin needs to drop ProFlowers then. He hawks their crap all the time. And that place is an enormous ripoff. I used them last Mother's Day with the coupon code from Levin's show. My "$19.99" special ended up close to $60 by the time all the fees were added. By then it was really too late to get her something else, so I ate it that once. And I think their entire business model is built around one-time customers, because there is no way in hell I will ever get anything at ProFlowers again.
Same here. It was because it had been advertised on Rush's show that I bought through them. I didn't blame Rush for the crummy deal - I just never went back.
I did however reach out to them yesterday - along with Citrix and today Sears - to tell them that it was their choice to embroil themselves into the politics of this thing by allowing themselves to be maneuvered by the libs. Likewise it was my choice to seek out alternatives to them because I dislike fair-weather friends.
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This requires much more than our personal attention.
I despise chain emails but this is one situation in which I would approve of an exception. All of us have gotten chain emails from time to time. If you are like me they end with you and you do not pass them on. This is because by and large the content is bogus and ridiculous. Well, now it's time to return the favor to all those people who have sent you those nuisance communications. Send them out a well crafted letter that explains this situation and why it is essential that these companies be hit hard.
Don't stop there. As David Letterman would say, "Wake the neighbors and get the kids." Tell everyone you know. Do it by email and make it very easy for the recipient to contact the enemy. Send them to your family members. Send them to your friends. Send them to everyone you can think of.
Do it for Brietbart.
AOL is the latest to bail. I called and told her I would pay to swap her over to ANYBODY else ;)
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I just sent out a very long email (with lots of links) to the huge laundry list of people who have been spamming me with chain emails forever. Copied below for your reference (the links and formatting did not make the transfer from my email program to this page...sorry about that):
Please read this entire article. This is important. This requires action. Please forward this email to everyone you know.
Here are the opening paragraphs from the article:
So. Did you hear about Carbonite and Rush Limbaugh?
No, you didn't. Not the way you will in a minute. But first?
It's time to turn the tables.
It's time to stand up to the bullies.
It's time to Rally for Rush.
Rush Limbaugh has discussed at length -- at length -- what Sandra Fluke and her statist cronies are up to. Yes, he used the words "slut" and "prostitute" -- using the ludicrous to make his point. Ms. Fluke, in one of the most pathetic, shamelessly whining stories in recent memory, demands to be paid for her sex life because it costs $3,000 for three years of birth control while she's at law school. She demands that a Catholic university violate its fundamental right to religious liberty so she can have others pay for her sex life. So Rush asked the farcical obvious about somebody who demands that someone else pay her for her apparent, self-admitted prolific sex life. He spent two solid days relating her greed for other people's money and a lack of personal responsibility to the oldest of principles.
Right on cue, the blacklisting crowd came out of their Stalinist caves. Having driven Lou Dobbs from CNN, cut off Beck's windpipe at Fox, severed Pat Buchanan from MSNBC, thus emboldened they have now set their sights on Rush.
And Rush, threatened with his livelihood, has issued this statement:
For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke.
I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress. I personally do not agree that American citizens should pay for these social activities. What happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Where do we draw the line? If this is accepted as the norm, what will follow? Will we be debating if taxpayers should pay for new sneakers for all students that are interested in running to keep fit? In my monologue, I posited that it is not our business whatsoever to know what is going on in anyone's bedroom nor do I think it is a topic that should reach a Presidential level.
My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices.
This, but of course, was not enough to satisfy. Sandra Fluke herself raced to the Ed Schultz show on MSNBC to denounce Rush. Yes, the same Ed Schulz who not long ago called conservative radio and TV commentator Laura Ingraham a "slut." And he wasn't joking either. But suddenly, Ms. Fluke simply didn't care. Why? Because this entire controversy over Rush's words was never about the actual subject. It was really about yet another drive to blacklist yet another conservative in the media.
Big mistake. Really big mistake.
Did I mention Carbonite yet? Hold on.
This is a long article but it is extremely important because it contains the secrets of the people who run the companies that are terminating their advertising with Rush Limbaugh. In a nutshell, the owners of ProFlowers.com, QuickenLoans, LegalZoom and the others are all huge contributors to the Democrats and their leftist henchmen. Their number one goal is to snuff out all sources of opposing points of view.
They have successfully silenced Lou Dobbs at CNN, Don Imus, Glenn Beck and Patrick Buchanann. Now they are taking aim at Rush Limbaugh.
These companies have bowed to the pressure of leftist orgs like Media Matters. They are sucking up to a group of people who represent less than 20% of the population. 20% of the population is controlling what the other 80% get to hear and see. This must stop.
All of the contact information you need to hammer these cowardly (and leftist supporting) companies is contained in the article. For the sake of time I will post it below. Call them. Email them. Fax them. Let them know that you will not be buying their products. Let them know that you will tell your friends and family to not buy their products. Tell them that they have made their bed with the enemies of free speech and that this is unacceptable.
Sleep Train
customerservice@sleeptrain.com
800-919-2337 to tell them what you think. 866-293-5719 to fax them what you think.
Select Comfort / Sleep Number Beds
Click on this link to go to the fill in contact sheet at their website.
Legal Zoom
Click on this link to go to the fill in contact sheet at their website.
323-962-8600 to tell them what you think. 323-962-8300 to fax them what you think.
Citrix (GoToMyPC and GoToMeeting)
800-424-8749 (or 954-267-3000) to tell them what you think.954-267-9319 to fax them what you think.
Quicken Loans
Here is a link to the contact information on their website which includes the ability to chat with them...imagine the fun that will be. But you can always phone them at 800-863-4332.
Pro Flowers
Here is the link to their fill in contact sheet at their website.
Carbonite
Chat and email links can be found here.
You can call them at these two numbers: 617-587-1100 or 877-665-4466
These companies are cowardly, craven weasels for bowing to the anti-free speech demands of leftists. Let them know in no uncertain terms that they will pay a price for this.
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This requires much more than our personal attention.
I despise chain emails but this is one situation in which I would approve of an exception. All of us have gotten chain emails from time to time. If you are like me they end with you and you do not pass them on. This is because by and large the content is bogus and ridiculous. Well, now it's time to return the favor to all those people who have sent you those nuisance communications. Send them out a well crafted letter that explains this situation and why it is essential that these companies be hit hard.
Don't stop there. As David Letterman would say, "Wake the neighbors and get the kids." Tell everyone you know. Do it by email and make it very easy for the recipient to contact the enemy. Send them to your family members. Send them to your friends. Send them to everyone you can think of.
Do it for Brietbart.
I'm the same way with chain letters. But I've already sent on the list to some family and will do more.
If I had the know-how I'd make a video for youtube showing the left's use of derogatory terms vs the carrying on about Rush.
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Here is a real email address for ProFlowers. I have already sent them a message.
wecare@customercare.ProFlowers.com
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And Sandra Fluke is a slut.
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And Sandra Fluke is a slut.
::thumbsup::
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Tax Resolution Services is the latest gutless worm.
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two stations drop Rush's show (http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-first-radio-station-drops-the-rush-limbaugh-show/)
not major markets--one in Hawaii and the other in Massachusettes
I'm thinking I better email my local radio station and tell them not to bail...
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Mkay, somebody with better photoshop skills than mine (that would be better than "none"), download a picture of a "Slutwalk" rally, and paste a picture of Fluke into it. I wanna see that.
I wanna see the Leftist feminist faction that embraces the slut label together with the Leftist feminist faction that pretends to be offended by it, and imagine their heads twisting in circles until their heads pop off.
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I am a repeat Proflowers customer (keep the snickers to yourself please), and the moment I heard they dropped their ads I wrote an email telling them I'll never buy from them again.
I'm so tired of this sh*t. I'm toggling between despair and rage now, nearly every moment of every day. In fact, my attitude right now is mass boycott of everything I can do without. I'm ready to Go Galt. We're getting the suburban house ready for sale, we're buggin' out. Let the economy burn. It's time to watch them starve.
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I am a repeat Proflowers customer (keep the snickers to yourself please), and the moment I heard they dropped their ads I wrote an email telling them I'll never buy from them again.
I'm so tired of this sh*t. I'm toggling between despair and rage now, nearly every moment of every day. In fact, my attitude right now is mass boycott of everything I can do without. I'm ready to Go Galt. We're getting the suburban house ready for sale, we're buggin' out. Let the economy burn. It's time to watch them starve.
That's an accurate read of my mood from day to day, michelleo, and has been for some time.
I don't want to just want to watch them starve. I want to help them do so.
And for the rest o' ya, who have expressed disappointment in Rush's "caving": we DO NOT THROW OUR OWN UNDER THE BUS like yer typical Republican. Get on board with trap's action plan and defend the Man.
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Pan , I agree in principle but that's an awful lot of dough . Don't look for any big hitters to step in real soon to replace that loss . The MFM will be ready to jump all over anyone who does . Sad but true .
Let 'em jump.
Let me axe you a question: before they bought time on conservative radio, whothehellever heard of Carbonite? ProFlowers? Like CO wrote, Rush put Snapple on the map. I heard a Geico ad, so apparently they stuck.
That's beside the point . Whether we like it or not , in today's highly charged political atmosphere companies from 3M down to Fred's Shoe Repair are going to be loathe to expose themselves to negative press just to sponsor an entity they perceive to be damaged no matter how loyal they might be to that entity's ideaologically . I'm afraid that a "counter-boycott" in this case will prove to be a pointless effort . Our time would be better spent doing a deconstruct of Fluke and her past and determine where Pelosi & Company dug her up . As I said to a friend a while ago , Fluke IS a slut and a whore of the left ... but Rush should have known better . The liberals have been after his scalp for over twenty years and they won't let up on him or anyone who sponsors him . They smell blood and lots of it . This is not going to end well .
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Commercial supported radio/TV is dying anyway.
Like him or not, Glenn Beck's model really is the future. I hadn't heard any of those companies advertising on Rush anyway, having a 24/7 subscription given to me for Christmas. I see a very few on GBTV.
Pandora for radio...another app I think I paid $2 that lets me get world radio...very minimally commercial supported. GBTV $5 (will bug sister to drop 24/7 in place of GBTV+) Drama Fever $5, Netflix $8+$8. $26 for all I ever need to watch and listen. Compare to $80 for basic cable.
This is the future. Not questionably legitimate marketing companies that seem to find their ways onto right wing talk radio.
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There has been a petition at whitehouse.gov to have Rush removed from the air on armed services radio by the White House. Even calls to have him removed from the air altogether, a couple of stations already doing so.
HT: AoSHQ, via Iowahawk: Sign this petition @ whitehouse.gov - Resign. (https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/resign/SvJr4Q9h?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl)
It requires a typical anonymous registration. Use a web email address you don't use, and a password you never use for anything else.
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Commercial supported radio/TV is dying anyway.
Like him or not, Glenn Beck's model really is the future. I hadn't heard any of those companies advertising on Rush anyway, having a 24/7 subscription given to me for Christmas. I see a very few on GBTV.
Pandora for radio...another app I think I paid $2 that lets me get world radio...very minimally commercial supported. GBTV $5 (will bug sister to drop 24/7 in place of GBTV+) Drama Fever $5, Netflix $8+$8. $26 for all I ever need to watch and listen. Compare to $80 for basic cable.
This is the future. Not questionably legitimate marketing companies that seem to find their ways onto right wing talk radio.
Rush should go pirate radio, he has enough money, if he went completely independent he would be more effective.
Time go Bobby Raines on their asses!
(http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/assets_c/2012/02/Dennis-Miller-Hawaii-Five-0-closeup-thumb-550x374-36374.jpg)
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/02/hawaii-five-0-dennis-miller-hits-the-airwaves-from-the-waves.html (http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/02/hawaii-five-0-dennis-miller-hits-the-airwaves-from-the-waves.html)
;)
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While I agree with section hand in deconstructing fluke and MNhawk as to where the market is headed, I still find it objectionable and it makes me mad as hell to think Rush Limbaugh could be forcibly pushed another direction because of yet another example of the antics of the most vindictive, hate filled people on the face of the earth. (and yes, worse than Muslim extremists)
So forgive me for disagreeing slightly, but a boycott of those companies who are too weak kneed to acknoledge his very nature as a broadcaster creates an audience of massive proportions in which to advertise, bringing in a new listener, I'm sure, with this latest trumped up charge, should and would add to their customer base.
This isn't about rush should have known better. This certainly shouldn't be about throwing up our hands and saying, oh well, radio is dying and a new direction is on the horizon...... This is about the ultimate narrative, ruled and controlled by the vindictive left to the point large corps are bowing to the whims of a minority. If given this power and authority, they will follow you to any " new direction".
So you bet I'll boycott these Lilly livered asshats. They don't deserve my business and I'll tell anyone within earshot, on every forum, on every billboard.......
If rush Limbaugh were to be forced in another direction......
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The problem already is that 99% of advertisers wouldn't touch Rush, nor anything else I listen to or watch, in the first place. And those that do overwhelmingly are there offering a product/service that you can get cheaper elsewhere.
I've only done Pajamagram, once, because it's a unique service. Still quite expensive, though. Cloud storage...plenty do it cheaper. Loans, I'm sure plenty have lower rates. Proflowers, I'll stick with Bachmanns. Quack cold remedys, um, no thanks. That questionable ID protection have already been covered in these boards. At least Rush isn't reduced to Hannity's level of advertisers...yet. That "male performance enhancement" herbal remedy just reeks of those e-mail from those wacky Russians wanting to grow my package.
Let's face it. The last "real" advertiser I can recall is GM.
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Why do conservatives have zero instinct for creating and maintaining a narrative? Who cares if you think Rush screwed up. What good comes from saying so? Will the leftist media establishment reward conservatism for it? Bunch of people getting the Full Alinsky on this one...hold your own to standards that the enemy doesn't even pretend to live up to. Same bullsh*t was going on with Breitbart and the Sherrod incident.
It's no wonder we get our clocks cleaned by the Left. They know how this game is played. Patently, we do not.
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For me to "boycott" or complain to one of Rush's sponsors would be both pointless and hypocritical . I've never in my life used a single product or service advertised on his program . Therefore , the question , in my case , is moot .
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And for the rest o' ya, who have expressed disappointment in Rush's "caving": we DO NOT THROW OUR OWN UNDER THE BUS like yer typical Republican. Get on board with trap's action plan and defend the Man.
Its the same every time. Mean girls (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/05/a-nation-of-mean-girls/)
Rush hit a girl. And you don't ever hit girls right?
Liberals hit girls all of the time. Its okay if you hit a redneck. They are stupid bitter-clingers.
They always use our own morals against us. MichelleO hates when I say it, but I think the Golden Rule should always be applied in reverse. It is okay to treat others as they have treated me. Treating them otherwise is a choice, not an obligation, and not a moral duty, and pointless when they will never learn from the example because they see us as Saul Alinsky saw us- chumps, foolishly following moral rules that they can exploit for fun and profit - having no principles or morals of their own- except the pursuit of their own power and gratification.
My heart is hardened against them. There is no doubt in my mind that if given a button that would kill everyone who voted for Obama dead, I would push it before you got done explaining how it worked. When this finally goes down, pleas for mercy will be ignored. Matter of fact, I might take them prisoner, give them water, and then let them starve to death for not recognizing that my original plan to waste a bullet on them WAS mercy.
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For me to "boycott" or complain to one of Rush's sponsors would be both pointless and hypocritical . I've never in my life used a single product or service advertised on his program . Therefore , the question , in my case , is moot .
I have used Carbonite once...subscribed to it for a year. The other stuff? I need to update my will and I MIGHT have used LegalZoom for convenience (since I don't have any complicated trusts and stuff to deal with) but not now. I will uses nolo.com instead. The others on the list? No.
But that didn't stop me from writing to them (and I am in the process of making phone calls right now) to tell them what horrible pukes they are and that I will NEVER use their products. Plus I will tell everyone I know that their products are bogus and junk and to never, ever patronize them.
Don't let a little thing like the fact that you don't use their stuff stand in the way of venting at them. They need to know that they will pay a price for their treachery.
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BTW...the "Inside Sales" extension at Carbonite gets some really pissed off reactions when you call them.
I told them that I was ending my service with Carbonite and that I would never use them again. They told me that I needed to direct my call elsewhere. I told them that I was happy to waste their time with my call.
877-665-4466 extension 4
Good times, good times.
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Thanks for the "mean girls" link Weisshaupt - very interesting.
I was dismayed and totally caught off-guard when Rush issued his apology. I really didn't expect it. I always figure that like a pool player Rush is thinking seven plays ahead of the current one and his use of the word slut was calculated for effect. I now know that it wasn't.
When I spar with the libs I try to be as precise as possible so as not to get out-maneuvered by the bastards. I may get tripped up on a fact here and there but usually when the "catch me" it is a grammatical error and not a flaw in my reasoning. This is why I wouldn't have used the term - I don't know (and couldn't know from the limited context) if she personally was that sort of person or not. What I do know is that Rush was effectively correct in that fluke argued for sluttism in general. The "right" to promiscuity without responsibility or consequence. What she demands is wrong and we shouldn't back down from that.
And no - I'm not abandoning Rush. Just recognizing for hie weaknesses as well as his strengths.
And telling him to keep his eye on the ball dammit!
::gaah::
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The Sleep Number people can be reached at 888-411-2188 and their sales department is extension 4.
I got to vent to a sales guy for perhaps 4 minutes before he transferred me to a line where I could leave a message. I told him that I would be calling him back throughout the day to continue to waste his time and cost his company money.
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The bit about trying to get him banned from Armed Forces radio is illustrative of what happens when government becomes massive. The argument is being made that since Armed Forces radio falls under the aegis of public ownership, it should not have content that "the public" claims is offensive. That public/government involvement is the lever used to strong arm compliance everywhere we look, and just wait until healthcare is completely under the government thumb. They'll be able to dictate virtually every aspect of your life while pretending it's still optional to comply...optional unless you plan to access any of the medical care over which they have a monopoly. Look at how the federal government dictates policy to the "sovereign" states. It ties all these strings to federal funding, while pretending that compliance is somehow optional since they don't have to accept the funding.
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The Sleep Number people can be reached at 888-411-2188 and their sales department is extension 4.
I got to vent to a sales guy for perhaps 4 minutes before he transferred me to a line where I could leave a message. I told him that I would be calling him back throughout the day to continue to waste his time and cost his company money.
Told "Josh" what I thought and I left a message. Not that anyone will ever listen to it. AND I was actually thinkling about looking at the Sleep number bed. Now I don't have to bother.
My husband defaults to pro-flowers sometimes. Guess we'll be saving money there. As for the others it doesn't matter if I'm actually a customer. I'm a potential customer and that's who they're trying to reach with their ads.
I recognize that on some level it's all a game but if we don't step up to the board the left will take all the pieces and declare themselves the winner.
I like MNhawk's option of paying per program. I've been thinking about it a lot lately. Not sure I can convince my husband to forego the satellite. Oh my gosh, that was a big deal when we got it! It took me ten years to get him to drop the newspaper soooo....we'll see. I think I might be able to start with netflix..... ::evil::
I suppose my brothers will be getting Two if by Tea for their birthday presents. lol
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Ok, I got through the list. Now going to make sure my family does their part.
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I can say from a perspective inside the radio advertising business that it has become very specialized in a bad way, to the point where potential radio advertisers are increasingly becoming companies that seek one-time impulse buyers, or are offering products or services that will rope people into a monthly credit card charge.
The industry has become almost exclusively what they call "direct response" advertising. You hear the ad, and you're asked on the spot to call an 800 number or visit a .com. The success of the campaign is based entirely upon the response to those 800#s or urls. Repetition is still in play, but the nature of the response they seek is immediate, rather than part of a long-term marketing strategy. This severely limits the kinds of companies who advertise on the radio, to the point where it's almost exclusively companies that offer things most people don't want, but who view the success of a campaign on a "sales per day per market based on response" criteria.
The "legitimate" companies - Sleep Number, Rosetta Stone, Oreck, etc - advertise on a prominent national show like Limbaugh's. The others - male enhancement, miracle skin cream, collector coins, etc - are the clients procured by the local affiliates.
My point here is that the "legitimate" companies looking to advertise nationally on a show like Limbaugh's are finite. Direct response radio doesn't work for every product, or every business model.
From my perspective, now that I've seen the advertiser fallout, it is clear why Limbaugh apologized. A commercial radio program only remains viable so long as advertisers are willing to spend. Limbaugh has so far commanded the highest-buck players among direct response advertising clients. If he loses them all, he'll have to replace them, and that will not be as easy as we think. The Rush Limbaugh Show as we know it will not survive pitching prostate tablets and glorified car wash tokens sold as "mint collector coins".
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Thanks for the "mean girls" link Weisshaupt - very interesting.
I was dismayed and totally caught off-guard when Rush issued his apology. I really didn't expect it. I always figure that like a pool player Rush is thinking seven plays ahead of the current one and his use of the word slut was calculated for effect. I now know that it wasn't.
When I spar with the libs I try to be as precise as possible so as not to get out-maneuvered by the bastards. I may get tripped up on a fact here and there but usually when the "catch me" it is a grammatical error and not a flaw in my reasoning. This is why I wouldn't have used the term - I don't know (and couldn't know from the limited context) if she personally was that sort of person or not. What I do know is that Rush was effectively correct in that fluke argued for sluttism in general. The "right" to promiscuity without responsibility or consequence. What she demands is wrong and we shouldn't back down from that.
And no - I'm not abandoning Rush. Just recognizing for hie weaknesses as well as his strengths.
And telling him to keep his eye on the ball dammit! ::gaah::
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Ditto!
And -
Weisshaupt- "My heart is hardened against them. There is no doubt in my mind that if given a button that would kill everyone who voted for Obama dead, I would push it before you got done explaining how it worked. When this finally goes down, pleas for mercy will be ignored."
Yup, mercy? I’ll give them as good as they gave.
;)
And point taken IDP, thus, Rush ought to go New Media and bypass the censors!
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More on the whore -
"I’m also a past president of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice or LSRJ."
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/revealed-abortion-agenda-of-campus-group-headed-by-sandra-fluke/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/revealed-abortion-agenda-of-campus-group-headed-by-sandra-fluke/)
::rockets::
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Don't Worry, Folks: Advertisers Who Don't Want Your Business Will Be Replaced
March 05, 2012 (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/03/05/don_t_worry_folks_advertisers_who_don_t_want_your_business_will_be_replaced)
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Don't Worry, Folks: Advertisers Who Don't Want Your Business Will Be Replaced
March 05, 2012 (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/03/05/don_t_worry_folks_advertisers_who_don_t_want_your_business_will_be_replaced)
They will undoubtedly be replaced. The question is, with what will they be replaced, at what effort, and what expense or loss of revenue?
Rush Limbaugh doesn't apologize. The only other apology I can remember is when he was discovered to have been addicted to drugs and procuring them illegally. That was a legitimate cause for an apology. Calling Sandra Fluke a slut would not have ever been, until now. There is a motivation for the apology other than a pang of conscience. I'm pointing to the most logical one, based on my understanding of how the game is played. I may be dead wrong, but I don't think so. I think the apology boils down to dollars and cents, period.
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I appreciated your perspective, IDP.
That it's about the money doesn't make his apology a mistake. He has to think of others besides himself that have a job because of him.
I thought it was interesting that Fluke didn't accept the apology (did that change? I haven't heard) because the left doesn't want an apology from Rush. An apology should be enough in this case but as Carbonite shows it's not about what he said.
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Apparently Carbonite's stock price is tanking.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/06/silence-from-carbonite-as-its-stock-price-tanks/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/06/silence-from-carbonite-as-its-stock-price-tanks/)
http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/03/05/carbonite-stock-approaches-52-week-low-since-dropping-sponsorship-of-rush-limbaugh-show/ (http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/03/05/carbonite-stock-approaches-52-week-low-since-dropping-sponsorship-of-rush-limbaugh-show/)
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Apparently Carbonite's stock price is tanking.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/06/silence-from-carbonite-as-its-stock-price-tanks/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/06/silence-from-carbonite-as-its-stock-price-tanks/)
http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/03/05/carbonite-stock-approaches-52-week-low-since-dropping-sponsorship-of-rush-limbaugh-show/ (http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/03/05/carbonite-stock-approaches-52-week-low-since-dropping-sponsorship-of-rush-limbaugh-show/)
::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban::
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These companies have the prominence of Rush Limbaugh and other conservative talkers to thank for their success. Maybe that will hit them square in the sack.
Wouldn't it be grand if even one of them came crawling back? "...We never ended our relationship with Rush Limbaugh... we just "suspended" it indefinitely..."
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LadyVirginia:
I recognize that on some level it's all a game but if we don't step up to the board the left will take all the pieces and declare themselves the winner.
You and I see this as childish games but to the left it is life or death. And the stakes could be that high if we let them get away with it. I would never advocate banning leftists from being able to speak their minds - no matter how imbecilic it comes out. But it is their primary modus operandi to stifle the voices of opposition.
Not only was Rush's apology worthless to them - it was a red flag to step up their efforts to have him banned and crucified. This is only tangentially about Rush and all about the First Amendment - even the right to stupid or ill-considered speech. They can complain and protest Rush's choice of words all they want, but if they try to silence them I will go them stroke for stroke....and then some.
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Apparently Carbonite's stock price is tanking.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/06/silence-from-carbonite-as-its-stock-price-tanks/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/06/silence-from-carbonite-as-its-stock-price-tanks/)
http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/03/05/carbonite-stock-approaches-52-week-low-since-dropping-sponsorship-of-rush-limbaugh-show/ (http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/03/05/carbonite-stock-approaches-52-week-low-since-dropping-sponsorship-of-rush-limbaugh-show/)
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/carb (http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/carb)
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/LOL/ha-ha.jpg)
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LadyVirginia:
I recognize that on some level it's all a game but if we don't step up to the board the left will take all the pieces and declare themselves the winner.
You and I see this as childish games but to the left it is life or death. And the stakes could be that high if we let them get away with it. I would never advocate banning leftists from being able to speak their minds - no matter how imbecilic it comes out. But it is their primary modus operandi to stifle the voices of opposition.
Not only was Rush's apology worthless to them - it was a red flag to step up their efforts to have him banned and crucified. This is only tangentially about Rush and all about the First Amendment - even the right to stupid or ill-considered speech. They can complain and protest Rush's choice of words all they want, but if they try to silence them I will go them stroke for stroke....and then some.
Yup & Amen!
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(http://image.patriotpost.us/2012-03-06-humor-toon3.jpg)
http://media.patriotpost.us/humor/2012/03-06.html (http://media.patriotpost.us/humor/2012/03-06.html)
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Netflix is now one of the advertisers to denounce Rush and affirm they will not be advertising to his listeners. This one's gonna hurt, but this evening I cancelled my Netflix account. Our family uses Netflix nearly everyday. I called the 800 number to tell them why I was cancelling. I told them that I was greatly offended that by determining I'm no longer worthy of being advertised to that they were telling me they were no longer interested in having me as a customer. The customer service lady tried to tell me that Netflix doesn't normally advertise on Rush Limbaugh's shows and due to a scheduling error, Netflix wound up as an ad on network radio during an airing of Rush's show on a couple of occasions. Their advertisements during that slot were unintentional. They've been getting calls from marxist operatives threatening them with cancellations which impelled them to make a public statement. I told the customer service rep that Netflix's actions made matters worth in that context. Telling me Netflix wouldn't in a million years intentionally advertise to the likes of me made matters worse, not better. And in the process, they've become a party to the infringement on Rush's right to speak and my right to listen.
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Netflix is now one of the advertisers to denounce Rush and affirm they will not be advertising to his listeners. This one's gonna hurt, but this evening I cancelled my Netflix account. Our family uses Netflix nearly everyday. I called the 800 number to tell them why I was cancelling. I told them that I was greatly offended that by determining I'm no longer worthy of being advertised to that they were telling me they were no longer interested in having me as a customer. The customer service lady tried to tell me that Netflix doesn't normally advertise on Rush Limbaugh's shows and due to a scheduling error, Netflix wound up as an ad on network radio during an airing of Rush's show on a couple of occasions. Their advertisements during that slot were unintentional. They've been getting calls from marxist operatives threatening them with cancellations which impelled them to make a public statement. I told the customer service rep that Netflix's actions made matters worth in that context. Telling me Netflix wouldn't in a million years intentionally advertise to the likes of me made matters worse, not better. And in the process, they've become a party to the infringement on Rush's right to speak and my right to listen.
You go, Ma'am. I've not used Netflix to date but have been considering doing so and now I know they do not deserve my trade.
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*sigh* I wanted to start up with NetFlix but now I can't. And won't.
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These companies have the prominence of Rush Limbaugh and other conservative talkers to thank for their success. Maybe that will hit them square in the sack.
Wouldn't it be grand if even one of them came crawling back? "...We never ended our relationship with Rush Limbaugh... we just "suspended" it indefinitely..."
It would be nice if other radio talk hosts dumped the advertisers in protest.
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I wonder if it ever occurred to any of these boneheads that the threats - no matter how implicit or grandiose - are all as empty as their noggins? That the practical and pragmatic thing to do would be to maintain the status-quo and watch for trends. If their sales started plummeting (ostensibly from libs actually carrying out their threats) then they could make adjustments.
Instead they went off chicken-little fashion and revealed themselves as feckless, unreliable, and unworthy business-whores. Yes, I understand the argument; "But I don't want to get caught in the middle of an ideological war!" Well, you silly saps, that's precisely what you did - you took sides. Not only that, you bit the hand that fed you in favor of ones that will only pick your pockets.
You simpletons should have listened to the great leftist oracle: "Hate to defend #RushLimbaugh but he apologized, liberals looking bad not accepting. Also hate intimidation by sponsor pullout." - bill maher
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These companies have the prominence of Rush Limbaugh and other conservative talkers to thank for their success. Maybe that will hit them square in the sack.
Wouldn't it be grand if even one of them came crawling back? "...We never ended our relationship with Rush Limbaugh... we just "suspended" it indefinitely..."
It would be nice if other radio talk hosts dumped the advertisers in protest.
What would be nice is if it was generally understood that people doing advertizing are just trying to reach an audience. Generally they don't care about the poltics of that audience. Netflix has all kinds of movies and all kinds of shows for every audience. The left hates Rush and his audience, and wants to ensure that companies are forced to pick a side. And Netflix appeased them, saying they would never let it happen again (http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2012/03/netflix-no-we-dont-advertise-w.php) instead of declaring that they have no interest in politics, that they wish to serve all audiences, and have no interest in trying to endorse or chill any sort of discourse with their advertizing dollars. But no. Instead of defending their rights to advertize as they decide, they pick a side. Well its a war, and they picked one. F' them. I was already mad about the price increase and dividing of the mail-disk and on-line portions of the business, and the company's arrogant stance when people complained. This is just the last nail in the coffin. Hulu and Amazon are it now I guess. Pity, because I did like their services enough to even put up with the other BS.
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Pulling thier advertising from a program which draws the 50% who pay taxes in favor of threats from the 50% who pay nothing. Some of these intellectual giants need to lose thier jobs.
Is there one company out there with enough savvy to recognize an advertising opportunity?
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Pulling thier advertising from a program which draws the 50% who pay taxes in favor of threats from the 50% who pay nothing. Some of these intellectual giants need to lose thier jobs.
Is there one company out there with enough savvy to recognize an advertising opportunity?
Good point .
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Pulling thier advertising from a program which draws the 50% who pay taxes in favor of threats from the 50% who pay nothing. Some of these intellectual giants need to lose thier jobs.
Is there one company out there with enough savvy to recognize an advertising opportunity?
As to the first, I hope their write-off's increase. As to the second...well, I am convinced the lawyers and advertisers have turned board rooms into hen house's...all they do is cluck themselves...
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I'd have a list of zero business' I patronized if I boycotted everyone that didn't advertising on Rush...such as Amazon and Hulu.
Fighting this isn't boycotting a business that never meant to advertise on Rush. Fighting this is mocking the people near you who think you're going to turn into a Marxist piece of garbage, if Rush loses an advertiser. It has to be fought on the street level.
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Pulling thier advertising from a program which draws the 50% who pay taxes in favor of threats from the 50% who pay nothing. Some of these intellectual giants need to lose thier jobs.
Is there one company out there with enough savvy to recognize an advertising opportunity?
As to the first, I hope their write-off's increase. As to the second...well, I am convinced the lawyers and advertisers have turned board rooms into hen house's...all they do is cluck themselves...
No doubt...... Iif they are public traded company, I'd like to know what the major stockholders think of leaving millions of potential clients, the ones with money, for a threat of people who resemble OWS. If mrs fluke can't afford her birth control, I'm betting she can't afford to order flowers, back up her computer, etc.
Here's hoping someone with skin in the game makes life miserable in boardrooms.
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These fellow forgot, "it's not personal, it's just business", and they'll pay for it.
He's cheaper than TV and has a bigger audience too, that's "bang for the buck".
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Ms. Fluke doesn't even need birth control, unless muffdiving is now capable of causing pregnancy. Sorry to be obtuse, but everything about this whole controversy is phony and contrived, including the idea that this hag has any use for men.
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Ms. Fluke doesn't even need birth control, unless muffdiving is now capable of causing pregnancy. Sorry to be obtuse, but everything about this whole controversy is phony and contrived, including the idea that this hag has any use for men.
You think she's a thespian?
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Ms. Fluke doesn't even need birth control, unless muffdiving is now capable of causing pregnancy. Sorry to be obtuse, but everything about this whole controversy is phony and contrived, including the idea that this hag has any use for men.
You think she's a thespian?
She is a 30 year old feminist activist who had the time and the will to enroll in a school for the sole purpose of challenging this law, and no, she does not dress as if she were interested in the attentions of men. Chance of being a "thespian"? 80%+
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She's also an inspiration to the creative:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wHKetmta1eQ/T1cDQA0k94I/AAAAAAAALtc/WpjCeZ8S8X0/s400/daybydayCosts.jpg
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Probably explains why she refused to accept Rush's apology, she isn't a slut, she's a dyke. Only breeders can be sluts.
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More examples of Leftnut bullsh*ttery - here's Assholerod -
http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/03/07/030712-news-web-limbaugh-fluke/ (http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/03/07/030712-news-web-limbaugh-fluke/)
What a punk loser.
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Rush will still be a star long after Obama and his fat assed wife go back to their ghetto friends
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The advertisers that ditched the show yesterday include: Freedom Debt Relief, Norway Savings Bank, Portland Ovations, Consolidated Credit, Constant Contact, RSVP Discount Beverage, Cunningham Security and Regal Assets, which said in a statement “Everyone at Regal Assets wants to let Sandra Fluke know that we stand by her side in full support."
I admit I don't get to listen to Rush everyday, but who are these people? I've never heard of them.
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They must be local advertisers, not national.
They can just go ahead and stand by Mz FlOOk.
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They must be local advertisers, not national.
They can just go ahead and stand by Mz FlOOk.
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Yeah, local advertisers. To say they are sponsors of the program is an effort to deliberately mislead. Rush has probably never heard of these people and had no relationship with them at all. They simply bought advertising from local affiliates during his show.
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Yeah, local advertisers. To say they are sponsors of the program is an effort to deliberately mislead. Rush has probably never heard of these people and had no relationship with them at all. They simply bought advertising from local affiliates during his show.
But I bet they get the same results. They'll come crawing back............ ::bigmooning::