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Topics => The "Educators" => Topic started by: Libertas on February 14, 2012, 07:27:05 PM
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http://www.nccivitas.org/2012/state-inspectors-searching-childrens-lunch-boxes-this-isnt-china-is-it/ (http://www.nccivitas.org/2012/state-inspectors-searching-childrens-lunch-boxes-this-isnt-china-is-it/)
If this kid was mine, these fascist pigs would be in the ER. Screw the school and the school board!
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Blown up into a national story now and people in NC are screaming mad. Because people in NC are screaming mad, the gummint, including the school, has gone into CYA mode; still can't find out who the food-from-home Inspecktor is and the little girl is being portrayed as having "misunderstood".
Yah, sure.
Rush was all over this today and pissed.
Come to find out one Audrey Rowe, who is butt-buddies with the First Dietary Diva and who works for the USDA, has been going all around the country, inspecting sh*t that is not her business and vowing to the kids in Kentucky that the "food will be better" now that's she's on the job.
These people .... ::angry:: We need to ..... ::gaah::
I'll tell you something I surmise about this whole issue: the governments (Feds and State) are trying to get as many kids signed up for the "free and reduced lunch program", and this is another arrow in the quiver -- hassling parents who send lunch from home. The mother in this recent event now owes *somebody* $1.25 for the "cafeteria tray" forced on her daughter. As long as the "guidelines" are in effect and being enforced, at $1.25 a clip, it will be easier, and cheaper (the home lunch won't be wasted), for people like her to just cave and sign on. Additionally, in order to comply with the "guidelines" parents are being told to include all the necessary items and whatever the child won't eat will be thrown away. More expense and waste.
ETA: And speaking of "guidelines", "two servings of grains". Really? "Obesity epidemic" ::snort:: and the f**king government is still pushing carbs.
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We are experiencing a unique kind of tyranny, one that is not so much centered around a single autocrat and his retinue as it is a faceless, nameless army of bureaucrats. It's not unlike how people behave very differently in their cars in traffic, the anonymity of it emboldens behavior they would never do to another individual if they knew there would be actual interaction and consequences.
And that's the sticking point. Until there are consequences, and on an individual basis, the grind of technocratic tyranny will go on.
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Doubling down on the CYA (http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8777):
Who is the Mystery Food-From-Home Inspecktor?
According to the mother and grandmother of the young girl, the preschooler said she was provided a cafeteria tray with other items to replace her lunch. She returned home with the lunch she brought to school untouched. She also was given a note from the school stating that students who did not bring a "healthy lunch" would be offered the missing portions, which could result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case $1.25. School officials have said the youngster simply needed to add milk from the cafeteria to her lunch.
No. She didn't "need", she had juice, and the milk was probably that no/low-fat garbage.
The called the incident a misunderstanding, and that the mother will not be billed.
But other information surrounding the story remains unclear, and the government officials involved have provided sketchy — and sometimes conflicting — details. For instance:
• DHHS says the person monitoring the lunches was not employed by the agency. In a statement (PDF), the agency said it is not department “policy to inspect, go through or question any child about food items brought from home. The facts we have gathered confirm that no DHHS employee or contractor did this.”
• Hoke County assistant superintendent Bob Barnes told the Fayetteville Observer that the person conducting the inspection was a DHHS employee.
• USDA spokesman Bruce Alexander said the person monitoring the lunches was a “North Carolina education staff member” [sic] reviewing the facility.
• Another report said, “The government inspector was from the Early Childhood Environment Rating Scale-Revised program at the FPG Child Development Institute at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. The program gives schools a grade based on standards that include USDA meal guidelines enforced by the N.C. Division of Early Childhood Development.”
Contacted by email, Kelly Maxwell, a spokeswoman for FPG, would not say if the inspector was affiliated with the institute. Her reply stated, “The FPG Child Development Institute is not responsible for overseeing/monitoring early childhood programs in NC. The Division of Child Development and Early Education (DCDEE) is responsible for licensing early childhood programs in NC, including NC Pre-K.” FPG handled some oversight and monitoring when prekindergarten programs were part of the state’s Department of Public Instruction. DHHS took over supervision of those programs in the summer of 2011.
A follow-up email asking if the inspector in Hoke County had any connection with FPG received no reply.
CJ contacted Renee McCoy and Jani Kozlowski of the public affairs office of DHHS by email, asking if the agency had determined who employed the inspector. McCoy also was left a voicemail message at her office. Those messages have not been answered.
In addition, a Wake County Schools parent called WPTF and explained that a month or so ago, her 56 lb., 9 year-old daughter's lunch was inspected by the "lunch teacher" and was told the four cookies included in her otherwise "acceptable" lunch were verboten.
Obesity "epidemic". Really. Obesity is not contagious. Apparently stoopidity is.
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school, has gone into CYA mode; still can't find out who the food-from-home Inspecktor is and the little girl is being portrayed as having "misunderstood".
Did the daughter's parents misunderstand the bill for the replacement
lunch that was placed in the returned lunch bag?
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school, has gone into CYA mode; still can't find out who the food-from-home Inspecktor is and the little girl is being portrayed as having "misunderstood".
Did the daughter's parents misunderstand the bill for the replacement
lunch that was placed in the returned lunch bag?
Or the accompanying note? I doubt it. Apparently, this mother has been battling with the school's "officials" for some time now over the issue of her daughter's lunch (http://www.nccivitas.org/2012/state-inspectors-searching-childrens-lunch-boxes-this-isnt-china-is-it/):
In an interview with the Civitas Institute the mother said “I can’t put vegetables in her lunchbox. I’m not a millionaire and I’m not going to put something in there that my daughter doesn’t eat and I’ve done gone round and round with the teacher about that and I’ve told her that. I put fruit in there every day because she is a fruit eater. Vegetables, let me take care of my business at home and at night and that’s when I see she’s eating vegetables. I either have to smash it or tell her if you don’t eat your vegetables you’re going to go to bed.”
The mother added, “It’s just a headache to keep arguing and fighting. I’ve even wrote a note to her teachers and said do not give my daughter anything else unless it comes out of her lunchbox and they are still going against me and putting a milk in front of her every day.
“Friday she came home and said ‘Mom, they give me vegetable soup and a milk,’” said the mother.
“So I went to the cafeteria to make sure she had no fee and it’s not being charged to her account yet,” she continued, ” but what concerned me was that I got a letter from the principal and it says students who do not bring a healthy lunch will be offered the missing portions which may result in a fee from the cafeteria. So if I don’t stay on top of her account on a weekly basis there’s that opportunity that charges could be put on her account and then if I let it go too far then it’s like I’m going to have a big battle.”
It is about "Federal money" and control:
“As part of the evaluation, they look at students lunches that are brought from home to make sure that they meet USDA guidelines. And this school, we’re told, lost points this year because too many children were bringing their lunches from home and they did not meet, according to this inspector, the USDA guidelines.”
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/02/15/fox-follow-up-reporter-who-broke-school-lunch-story-that-sparked-national-debate-speaks-out/ (http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/02/15/fox-follow-up-reporter-who-broke-school-lunch-story-that-sparked-national-debate-speaks-out/)
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The fact that this mother is even in the position of explaining herself makes me want to turn someone's face into raw hamburger.
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http://www.nccivitas.org/2012/state-inspectors-searching-childrens-lunch-boxes-this-isnt-china-is-it/ (http://www.nccivitas.org/2012/state-inspectors-searching-childrens-lunch-boxes-this-isnt-china-is-it/)
If this kid was mine, these fascist pigs would be in the ER. Screw the school and the school board!
Thats what I was thinking too: If some lefty stuck his hand in my kid's lunch I'd clock him
Can you just imagine it? These people think they can do whatever they want.
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That's because they CAN.
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That's because they CAN.
Only because dunderhead parents let them
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Sing together now: the laaaaand of the freeeee, and the hooooome of the braaaaave!
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Sing together now: the laaaaand of the freeeee, and the hooooome of the braaaaave!
We need a new song, a dirge a think. The theme - "This is the country we live in now".
Who did the "If 10% is enough for Jesus, it ought to be enough for Uncle Sam"? Him.
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Glad I'm not the only one who wants to push faces in, and I don't have any kids! I have nephews working through school and let me tell ya, my BIL takes no sh*t and my sister makes him look like mild mannered Clark Kent type by comparison when it comes to the kids!
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Being without kids myself, it is maybe too easy or glib for me to say, but keep your kids the hell away from any public school! Considering how they perennially produce generations of functional illiterates and Ignoranti (tm) despite their enormous budgets, can there be any doubt that the prime purpose of public schooling is the sociopolitical indoctrination of other people's children? It's not about education, certainly not the objective, apolitical sort of education that would teach them to become functioning adults. It has become little more than a captive audience of impressionable minds, what Rush calls the young skulls full of mush, rendered captive by order of the state.
It's funny, groups like Pink Floyd got the message that the individual is the tiniest minority, made into fodder for the machine when the state is collectivist, yet they probably all along were envisioning that state to be some sort of rightist entity. So many artists get so close, but they have such a blindspot.
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I'm glib too, if I had kids, private school all the way, or home school, of course it is easy for me to say, if actually placed into that situation I'd like to think I would adhere to that conviction.
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I cannot imagine the conversation that would ensue if our school were to send my child's lunch home with a note telling me that the school's lunch was substituted because my lunch provision did not meet the school's guidelines. Actually, I can imagine it. I'm glad that at least for now, I'm relatively sure that no such thing would happen in our district. I value my freedom, and don't relish spending time in jail for assault.
A second case... (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/exclusive-2nd-n-c-mother-says-daughters-school-lunch-replaced-for-not-being-healthy-enough/)
The lunch Zambrano packed for her daughter? A cheese and salami sandwich on a wheat bun with apple juice. The lunch she got in the cafeteria? Chicken nuggets, a sweet potato, bread and milk.
The memo, dated Jan. 27 with the subject line “RE: Healthy Lunches,” was signed by school principal Jackie Samuels and said, while “we welcome students to bring lunches from home … it must be a nutritious, balanced meal with the above requirements. Students, who do not bring a healthy lunch, will be offered the missing portions which may result in a fee from the cafeteria.”
Then comes the part where I do things that may get me taken to jail.
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“We are not the lunch bag police,” Barnes told McClatchy. “We would never put a child in any type of embarrassing situation. But we are responsible to see that every child gets a nutritious meal.”
Obviously somebody is ... and ... who said?
NC cannot be the only state in which this is happening. PARENTS!! Do your jobs! Find out who is screwing with your authority and, more importantly, your child, and strike them down!!
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What no birth control with lunch?
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What no birth control with lunch?
Maybe they crush it up in a teaspoon of grape jelly unless the parents opt out.
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What no birth control with lunch?
Maybe they crush it up in a teaspoon of grape jelly unless the parents opt out.
Maybe they do it and don't inform the parents on the grounds -- well, choose one; mainly that parents are iggnerint and do not act on the behalf of the best interests of their children.
I'm spitting mad at this point. But y'all prolly knew 'at.
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If this happened to my child...i'd be the most hated individual by each and every teacher..... because i'd be at the cafeteria every GD day challenging the lunch patrol.
Sometime reason doesnt work. A good old fashioned, in your face calling you a tool, stepping on my rights screamfest....Telling anyone within earshot that touching my kids lunch will result in a bitch slap.
Sometimes its the only answer.
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::thumbsup::
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If this happened to my child...i'd be the most hated individual by each and every teacher..... because i'd be at the cafeteria every GD day challenging the lunch patrol.
Sometime reason doesnt work. A good old fashioned, in your face calling you a tool, stepping on my rights screamfest....Telling anyone within earshot that touching my kids lunch will result in a bitch slap.
Sometimes its the only answer.
Musket to the Junk. In the end that is the only place we will have left to go. And we will just have to keep going once we start.
Yelling at them will probably only result in child services at the door.
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2nd N.C. Mother Says Daughter’s School Lunch Replaced for Not Being Healthy Enough (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/exclusive-2nd-n-c-mother-says-daughters-school-lunch-replaced-for-not-being-healthy-enough/?corder=asc#comments)
Unh hunh. So much for Rob Scofield (http://www.ncjustice.org/?q=node/128), claiming today on WPTF, that this was one mistake made by one ignerrint school employee.
(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/West-Hoke-Elem.-memo.jpg)
Parents! Get your poop in a group and make sure this is NOT happening to your kids!
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I had to use the tactic one time in my sons school years.
My son in his pre teen years was exactly like me. Hyper. Energy. On the move. Constant go. He also, when he was excited about any subject, would talk fast...real fast. Didn't matter the subject, if he was engaged he spoke real fast..... if he had no interest he did not. It would happen in class when he became involved. So, our first contact with a teacher who thought he had a speech impediment. OK.... Meeting, we listened and they wanted to put him some sort of class...but I said no, he doesn't have an issue, if he speaks quickly in your class your doing your job...he is involved....So a few weeks passed and apparantly my answer wasnt good enough....So this time we needed to meet with others.
My wife knew I had reached my "happy" point and I invited her to stay home. But she went anyway. We sit down, two or three intellectual looking types, exchange pleasantries and the head honcho said something like " we're here to speak about your sons problem".... I which I interjected myself, sternly, somewhere between wild eyed look and controlled rage. I really don't remember everything I said, but apparantly I got my point across and we never had another issue.
I don't know where the father is in this story, but this lady needs some assistance in the form of a screamer.
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I told my daughter this story and she went bonkers! To clean it up a little,it boils down to"I effing dare them to touch my kids lunch"The schools can use the guidelines when it comes to what they serve not what the child brings from home.
If the whole school gets free lunch then they can mandate that garbage but if the whole school isn't on a program they can't touch the child's lunch,the end.
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“We are not the lunch bag police,” Barnes told McClatchy. “We would never put a child in any type of embarrassing situation. But we are responsible to see that every child gets a nutritious meal.”
Obviously somebody is ... and ... who said?
NC cannot be the only state in which this is happening. PARENTS!! Do your jobs! Find out who is screwing with your authority and, more importantly, your child, and strike them down!!
The only thing schools are responsible for are teaching our children. They abdicated this responsibility years ago by replacing education with brain washing. Now this. Home school, home school, home school.
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What no birth control with lunch?
....and no book about "My Two Dads"
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I don't get the whole contraception thing. I figured they would be against contraception, because using it denies a woman the opportunity to partake in the Sacrament of abortion.
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We need a U.S. Department of Education to enforce these "guidelines"?
Abolish the U.S. Department of Education and this crap will cease to exist. The local boards, starved for cash, prostitute themselves before the Feds in order to get the cash.
"Now be a good little educator and force these "guidelines" on your kids or no money for you."
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We need a U.S. Department of Education to enforce these "guidelines"?
Abolish the U.S. Department of Education and this crap will cease to exist. The local boards, starved for cash, prostitute themselves before the Feds in order to get the cash.
"Now be a good little educator and force these "guidelines" on your kids or no money for you."
Well never have a republican leader with the gonads to shut down the long lists of programs which start with "dept". Only in my dreams.
If we could, I'd say it would take less than 5 years for the liberal states to destroy themselves.
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If this happened to my child...i'd be the most hated individual by each and every teacher..... because i'd be at the cafeteria every GD day challenging the lunch patrol.
Yep, me too.
What no birth control with lunch?
It's coming I'm sure. Beck had a piece about a mom in Michigan who's mad that her daughter got vaccines without her knowledge. link (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/mother-angry-with-everybody-after-14-year-old-given-hpv-vaccine-without-permission/)
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Damn these people! Children, before the age of consent, cannot sign consent forms for medical treatment; their parents have to do that, except for emergency care. So, where do these statists get off?! Are there laws somewhere declaring a child has a "right" to privacy from her parents?
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Are there laws somewhere declaring a child has a "right" to privacy from her parents?
Only if she wants an abortion or birth control pills.
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Are there laws somewhere declaring a child has a "right" to privacy from her parents?
Only if she wants an abortion or birth control pills.
Thaaaat's just great. So, they get her an abortion and the parents get the hemorrhaging teenage girl. I'd be looking to kill someone.
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The pediatricians around here ask the parents to stay in the waiting room when the kid gets to be about 12 and comes in for his/her annual school physical. This is so the good doctor can talk to the kids about their sexual history and need for birth control.
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The pediatricians around here ask the parents to stay in the waiting room when the kid gets to be about 12 and comes in for his/her annual school physical. This is so the good doctor can talk to the kids about their sexual history and need for birth control.
It's none of the good doctor's gawdamned business. Do you allow your children to go in alone?
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The pediatricians around here ask the parents to stay in the waiting room when the kid gets to be about 12 and comes in for his/her annual school physical. This is so the good doctor can talk to the kids about their sexual history and need for birth control.
It's none of the good doctor's gawdamned business. Do you allow your children to go in alone?
One of the benefits of homeschooling that I wasn't aware of when we started it years ago. No school physical.
As far as I can tell my kids are as healthy or healthier than the kids who get physicals.
Anyway, we switched to a family practice doc and I made it clear from the first visit that I go in. We only go when someone is sick anyway so it's not unexpected that a parent would go in.
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Nugget-gate teacher suspended indefinitely (http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/06/nugget-gate-teacher-suspended-indefinitely/)
The Hoke County, N.C. teacher who made headlines for swapping a preschool student’s homemade lunch with chicken nuggets has been suspended indefinitely.
More at the DC..
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Nugget-gate teacher suspended indefinitely (http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/06/nugget-gate-teacher-suspended-indefinitely/)
The Hoke County, N.C. teacher who made headlines for swapping a preschool student’s homemade lunch with chicken nuggets has been suspended indefinitely.
More at the DC..
I don't want the idiot teacher I want her boss and his bosses that put that idiocracy in place.
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I don't know why the teacher was suspended when she was following "the Department of Health and Human Services regulations on Pre-K nutrition issued in August 2011" which say "Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and lunch meeting USDA requirements during the regular school day...... When children bring their own food .... if the food does not meet the specified nutritional requirements, the center must provide additional food necessary to meet those requirements."
Per the dead-tree copy, March 2012 Vol. 21 No. 3, of the Carolina Journal, which I receive once a month, in the article titled "DHHS Defends Lunch Inspections" is this first paragraph:
"Even though government officials admit mistakes were made in the way a Hoke County preschool program handled lunches students brought from home, they continue to enforce the regulations that caused a nationwide uproar".
Furthermore:
"And, according to the mother of the 4-year-old who first objected to the school's inspection of her homemade lunch, the school continues to give her daughter milk every day, against her wishes." Because the cheese on her sandwich does not satisfy the USDA's dairy requirement.
This is a federal USDA program, "supervised" by NC's food nazis. Letters are routinely sent home to parents advising them what MUST be in their 4 year-old's lunches or it was be supplied by the school and the parents billed.
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Pardon my cynicism but I am guessing that this suspension is fully paid or as normal people would call it: a paid vacation.
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Probably paid, but why the teacher was suspended is a mystery, as I wrote. She was following the guidelines under the watchful eye of the DHHS "inspector" that was present.
http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8841 (http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8841)
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Probably paid, but why the teacher was suspended is a mystery, as I wrote. She was following the guidelines under the watchful eye of the DHHS "inspector" that was present.
http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8841 (http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8841)
Just a sacrifcial lamb for the good of the team. Cowards.
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Probably paid, but why the teacher was suspended is a mystery, as I wrote. She was following the guidelines under the watchful eye of the DHHS "inspector" that was present.
http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8841 (http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8841)
Just a sacrifcial lamb for the good of the team. Cowards.
yeah. Kinda like the "Rick Santorum" of the local school district. Sometimes ya gotta take one for the team.