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https://www.dailywire.com/news/democrat-controlled-virginia-working-on-confiscating-guns-from-law-abiding-citizens-governor-says

Ask The Founders what happens when despots come calling for your God-given implements of Freedom and Liberty...go ahead...or wait for the same robust responses from their latter day heirs.

Death...it's what despots crave.







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We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2019, 04:26:08 PM »
For what it’s worth, there’s a pretty big movement right now to push back against Northam’s gun grabbing, unconstitutional BS proposed laws. Haven’t been able to get a response from either my county sheriff or commonwealth’s attorney about their stance on it, but I am prepared to do whatever is necessary to resist. Virginia needs y’all’s prayers in the days to come, as I’m not convinced we aren’t going to be the second shot(s) heard ‘round the world
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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2019, 12:01:56 AM »
Prayers, you got 'em.  We're all gonna need 'em afore long.
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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2019, 07:24:20 AM »
Aye.

It is stirring up old passions wise people would avoid even if they loathed the 2A!

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2019/12/is-virginia-brewing-the-next-harpers-ferry/

Fortunately latter day tyrants cannot control their public affection for despotism and oppression...this Northam domestic enemy, Bloomie and the rest of the preening Demosocialisti running for Tyrant...

One would be wise to pray and prepare and most definitely to defy the encroaching despotism!



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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2019, 08:25:14 AM »


Wow...the Socialist despots really are eager to start another civil war!

https://neonnettle.com/news/9725-virginia-democrats-threaten-second-amendment-sanctuary-counties-with-national-guard



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First, deploying the National Guard will result in two things: 1) Not all members of that contingent are mouth-breathing idiots who follow illegal orders to wage war on their own citizens let alone to enforce unconstitutional laws on citizens rights bestowed by no man but by Our Creator and 2) it will have the effect of swelling the ranks of righteous Patriots to resist tyranny with vigorous force not unlike that of Lexington & Concord of April 19th 1775!



Second, what these despots (see BS letter of Commie Jay above) fail to realize is it is THEY who have rendered obedience to any law moot!  Under Obama and a host of demosocialist politicians in Federal, State, City, County and Municipalities (and Bureacracies too numerous!) across the nation have openly and willingly ignored laws regarding illegal immigrant invaders...ignoring the rule of law not just on immigration (invasion) but on illegal drugs, forcing unfunded mandates for socialist policies, violating the rights and due process of citizens who do not share their ideology (gays, race, sex, abortion)...nullifying decisions they do not agree with etc etc etc...so they have lost ANY standing to declare what others find worthy of defiance as wrong!  Not only that, but despots like this Jay clown are of the deluded mindset that using force to disarm people will prevent not start a civil war, a total indictment of their despotic intent!



And people in Virginia are taking note and NOT putting up with the threats!



https://mailchi.mp/cb0d1951769b/va-alert-so-much-for-the-governors-threat-8-new-sanctuaries-on-thursday-december-12?e=099c38fd56

I support these good people, their fight is our fight...it just happened to hit their corner first.  To be sure the despots have been waging this war for decades...encroaching on sacred ground inch by inch...now they are upping their malevolence and the veil hiding their hatred of you and the fear they have for your beliefs and what you are willing to do to defend them has dropped.

Stand fast!



Let them fire the first shot.

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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2019, 12:15:33 PM »


Dickey looks like paper-hanging socialist happy to have others do his dirty work.



Sounds about right.  Hey, what does the commander of your NG have to say?

“We have received multiple questions regarding proposed legislation for the 2020 General Assembly session and the authority of the Governor of Virginia to employ the Virginia National Guard in a law enforcement role. Please make sure you share this message with your all of your personnel.

We understand and respect the passion people feel for the U.S. Constitution and 2nd Amendment rights. We will not speculate about the possible use of the Virginia National Guard. I encourage everyone to be patient while we allow our elected officials to work through the legislative process.

We have not received any requests from the Governor, or anyone on his staff, about serving in a law enforcement role related to any proposed legislation.

I expect our Soldiers, Airmen and members of the Virginia Defense Force to be professional and respectful in their discussions about this subject. As private citizens, our personnel are free to express their opinions to their elected officials, but they should not engage in any political activity while in a uniformed status.

We will provide regular updates when appropriate during the General Assembly session. Please utilize your chain of command to direct any questions or concerns to my office, and we will do our best to address them.”

-Major General Timothy P. Williams


Hmmm...Maj Gen Timmy didn't say it was an illegal order...so one has to assume he is ready, willing and able to be the force behind VA's version of Order 66...because Maj Gen Timmy has to know a great many will not surrender their only means of preserving their liberty and resisting enslavement, box-car's and extermination.



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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2019, 01:48:21 PM »
I asked our Sheriff and Commonwealth’s attorney what their stance on the proposed legislation was and this was the response from our CA... Sheriff Millirons left me on read

Eric,

Thank you for your message.  There has been a lot of discussion and confusion about this issue.

Let me assure you and all of the citizens of Giles County that as a Constitutional Officer, I have taken an oath to uphold the Virginia Constitution, the United States Constitution, and ALL of the Amendments, including the Second Amendment.

Whenever the General Assembly passes a new law, I always have to review the specific wording of the statute to determine what that new law actually means.  (Most bills go through significant changes before a final version gets a vote.)  Part of my job involves explaining these new laws to the public and to our officers, and those legal opinions obviously have to be based on specific details.  Until we have those details, It would be impossible for me to give a legal opinion about future laws that do not yet even exist.  This means that the questions you are thinking about right now are good questions, BUT we first have to see what any new statute IS before we can analyze what it means and how it should be applied.

There is currently no legal definition of the term “Second Amendment sanctuary”.  The term means different things to the different localities and political groups that choose to use it.  In fact, different groups have used different wording on their resolutions and other statements.  These differences strongly suggest that the groups do not all have exactly the same intent.  So, your question “What does this ‘status’ mean?” can really only be answered by the locality or group which adopts the term.  Further clarification about what the Giles County Board of Supervisors intended can only come from the Board. 

I look forward to continuing this conversation.
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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2019, 01:51:13 PM »
They keep asking for war, and we Virginians are gonna give it to em
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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2019, 09:55:34 PM »
BS legalistic response and chickensh*t to boot!  Some things are inalienable, idiots will learn one way or another the truth of this.  And, since other sanctuary acts haven't had a legal hammer dropped on them it is an open admission on all sides that laws can be nullified.  Too late to try stuffing the toothpaste back into the tube and pretend everything is OK.
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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2019, 08:21:45 AM »
Not ringing hollow...they are really kicking butt on this movement!

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/18/86-virginias-95-counties-2nd-amendment-sanctuaries/

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ETA - These people will not become more victims of socialism!



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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2019, 02:48:39 PM »
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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2019, 04:19:47 PM »
I reserve the right to invoke rule .308!

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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2019, 11:50:40 AM »
And rule 30-30, .556, 12G and a true diversity of many other fine codicil's!   ::thumbsup::
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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2019, 12:11:35 PM »
Now they want to remove Lee's statue from the state capitol ::falldownshocked::
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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2019, 01:05:40 PM »
Now they want to remove Lee's statue from the state capitol ::falldownshocked::

It would be better if the capitol was removed from Lee's statue...I hear there are some diverse areas of Richmond that would be a better location for these morons to be in closer proximity with their racist constituents....

https://www.styleweekly.com/richmond/landlord-to-live-in-his-own-slum/Content?oid=1369366
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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2019, 01:16:26 PM »
OMG, this made me almost paint my screen!



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Re: Virginia strays hard from Founders like Washington, Jefferson, Henry & Lee
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2019, 06:41:33 PM »
Now they want to remove Lee's statue from the state capitol ::falldownshocked::

They have 243 years of (US) history to undo so they better get cracking!

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