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Re: JFK Assassination Files - To release or not to release?
« Reply #80 on: March 24, 2025, 06:14:00 PM »
I have no opinion on the JFK killing. I like the guests on judge nap. At 18:30 Larry Johnson brings up possible Mossad involvement. I liked this part. At 22:20 he disputes the loan gun man.

Final Judgement book by Michael Collins Piper.


https://youtu.be/DirnFVI601E?t=1116

https://www.amazon.com/Final-Judgment-Missing-Assassination-Conspiracy/dp/0935036539


In short, JFK tried to prevent Israel from getting the nuke bomb and some CIA guys acted to get the bomb for Israel..

Yeah, heard that rumor too, not buying it.  But it appeals to the neo-nazi impulses in certain people and their agendas...

The French helped build their reactor, and their attainment of weapons is believed to have occurred at the back end of the 60's not the front...so more so during Nixon than LBJ...

And I have yet to uncover any documentation regarding JFK and Israel and nukes...

Which is not to say the CIA didn't know about their development...they were (probably wisely) deceptive about their program...so if anything CIA sat on what they were doing and it was compartmentalized knowledge in a small silo...maybe not even shared with high-level politicians until forced to admit something less than the truth...as is their MO...

The video clip mentioned James Jesus Angleton  who was later given high honors in Israel.

https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1902344051766260192   5 days ago?
CIA suppressed top officer James Jesus Angleton's connection to Israeli intelligence as shown by this newly unredacted JFK assassination records file.

Angleton had subverted JFK's policy of preventing Israel from acquiring nuclear weapons and was praised by Mossad head Meir Amit as "the biggest Zionist of them all". Angleton was also found to have hidden documents from the Warren Commission on the assassination of President Kennedy.

Shortly before he died, Angleton stated "The better you lied and the more you betrayed, the more likely you would be promoted... outside of their duplicity, the only thing they had in common was a desire for absolute power."

The file was previously "released" in 2017, 2018 and 2022 in redacted form.
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Re: JFK Assassination Files - To release or not to release?
« Reply #81 on: March 24, 2025, 08:23:33 PM »


https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1903004516288713176
🇺🇸🇮🇱 The newly released unredacted Kennedy dossier reveals that CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton secretly helped Israel obtain nuclear weapons against Kennedy's wishes.

The documents confirm that nuclear technology and plutonium were transferred through intermediaries, and Angleton admitted to meetings with Israeli officials.

He warned of the need for secrecy, fearing the consequences if the truth became public.

When the law becomes a ruse, lawlessness becomes legitimate. -unknown

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Re: JFK Assassination Files - To release or not to release?
« Reply #82 on: March 24, 2025, 08:39:52 PM »

Just re-posting this stuff.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1902765580991525196


According to one of the released documents, California resident Sergei Chernonog warned the Americas about Kennedy's assassination two months before it happened.

The request came from the consul of the USSR embassy, ??but the Americans responded by saying "so what if Oswald has a weapon":

"Consul Vasiliev gave me orders to pass this information to the US Government on August 9, 1963 in Sofia, Bulgaria.

Mr. Vasiliev gave me this information about Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald on August 14, 1963.

Mrs. Desera Asenova, a friend of the Russian Consul, came into my room and repeated that Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald was an assassin. He would kill President Kennedy.

On August 15, 1963, in Sofia, Bulgaria, at the airport in the embassy car, I told Mr. Blackshear, the American Vice Consul, that Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald was an assassin.

He had a gun or had ordered one... I said that Mr. Lee H. Oswald was preparing to assassinate the President of the United States, John F. Kennedy... Mr. Blackshear told me that he would forward a telegram to the State Department and gave me the address to which to report.

At 9 a.m. on August 19, 1963, in Washington, D.C., I went to see the Director of the Office of Special Counsel, State Department, 1901 Pennsylvania Avenue, 11th floor.

I told the Director I had information about President Kennedy. The Director said not to mention President Kennedy's name, just to answer questions.

The Director said tell us what will happen to Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald then. I said Mr. Lee H. Oswald will be assassinated after he assassinates Kennedy. I said I would take a truth drug to tell the truth.

The Director: tell us who else will be assassinated in this country.

I said I had heard that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. will be assassinated. Who will assassinate Dr. King, Jr., the Negro leader? I said the man who is now in prison. (Mr. James Earl Ray was then in prison.) The Director asked where the assassination would take place. I said Texas...

I told the Director of the State Department that Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald had a gun. Go to him.

The Director told me that you might have a gun, too - so what if Oswald had a gun...“

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1902765591334883798
Also declassified is a document in which former intelligence officer J. Garrett Underhill told relatives that a faction within the CIA was involved in the murder and that he feared for his life.

Less than six months later, he was found dead in his Washington apartment, shot to death, but the coroner ruled it a suicide.

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Re: JFK Assassination Files - To release or not to release?
« Reply #83 on: March 25, 2025, 08:19:26 AM »
I have no opinion on the JFK killing. I like the guests on judge nap. At 18:30 Larry Johnson brings up possible Mossad involvement. I liked this part. At 22:20 he disputes the loan gun man.

Final Judgement book by Michael Collins Piper.


https://youtu.be/DirnFVI601E?t=1116

https://www.amazon.com/Final-Judgment-Missing-Assassination-Conspiracy/dp/0935036539


In short, JFK tried to prevent Israel from getting the nuke bomb and some CIA guys acted to get the bomb for Israel..

Yeah, heard that rumor too, not buying it.  But it appeals to the neo-nazi impulses in certain people and their agendas...

The French helped build their reactor, and their attainment of weapons is believed to have occurred at the back end of the 60's not the front...so more so during Nixon than LBJ...

And I have yet to uncover any documentation regarding JFK and Israel and nukes...

Which is not to say the CIA didn't know about their development...they were (probably wisely) deceptive about their program...so if anything CIA sat on what they were doing and it was compartmentalized knowledge in a small silo...maybe not even shared with high-level politicians until forced to admit something less than the truth...as is their MO...

The video clip mentioned James Jesus Angleton  who was later given high honors in Israel.

https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1902344051766260192   5 days ago?
CIA suppressed top officer James Jesus Angleton's connection to Israeli intelligence as shown by this newly unredacted JFK assassination records file.

Angleton had subverted JFK's policy of preventing Israel from acquiring nuclear weapons and was praised by Mossad head Meir Amit as "the biggest Zionist of them all". Angleton was also found to have hidden documents from the Warren Commission on the assassination of President Kennedy.

Shortly before he died, Angleton stated "The better you lied and the more you betrayed, the more likely you would be promoted... outside of their duplicity, the only thing they had in common was a desire for absolute power."

The file was previously "released" in 2017, 2018 and 2022 in redacted form.

Well, that's not invalidating anything I said, it seems to confirm my statement.  It was every President's official position to prevent proliferation by anybody...but that doesn't mean those seeking it don't go ahead anyway and those that share their interest help/not hinder those efforts...
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Re: JFK Assassination Files - To release or not to release?
« Reply #84 on: March 25, 2025, 08:23:05 AM »


https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1903004516288713176
🇺🇸🇮🇱 The newly released unredacted Kennedy dossier reveals that CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton secretly helped Israel obtain nuclear weapons against Kennedy's wishes.

The documents confirm that nuclear technology and plutonium were transferred through intermediaries, and Angleton admitted to meetings with Israeli officials.

He warned of the need for secrecy, fearing the consequences if the truth became public.

That is unreadable.  Is there a document number for that?

Like the record number at the archives?

https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release-2025

I kinda doubt it...  I used a magnifying glass and in the upper left hand corner where the Archive document number is stamped on each page Bebo's has nothing...so the provenance of the post is suspicious to me...
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Re: JFK Assassination Files - To release or not to release?
« Reply #85 on: March 25, 2025, 08:25:05 AM »

Just re-posting this stuff.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1902765580991525196


According to one of the released documents, California resident Sergei Chernonog warned the Americas about Kennedy's assassination two months before it happened.

The request came from the consul of the USSR embassy, ??but the Americans responded by saying "so what if Oswald has a weapon":

"Consul Vasiliev gave me orders to pass this information to the US Government on August 9, 1963 in Sofia, Bulgaria.

Mr. Vasiliev gave me this information about Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald on August 14, 1963.

Mrs. Desera Asenova, a friend of the Russian Consul, came into my room and repeated that Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald was an assassin. He would kill President Kennedy.

On August 15, 1963, in Sofia, Bulgaria, at the airport in the embassy car, I told Mr. Blackshear, the American Vice Consul, that Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald was an assassin.

He had a gun or had ordered one... I said that Mr. Lee H. Oswald was preparing to assassinate the President of the United States, John F. Kennedy... Mr. Blackshear told me that he would forward a telegram to the State Department and gave me the address to which to report.

At 9 a.m. on August 19, 1963, in Washington, D.C., I went to see the Director of the Office of Special Counsel, State Department, 1901 Pennsylvania Avenue, 11th floor.

I told the Director I had information about President Kennedy. The Director said not to mention President Kennedy's name, just to answer questions.

The Director said tell us what will happen to Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald then. I said Mr. Lee H. Oswald will be assassinated after he assassinates Kennedy. I said I would take a truth drug to tell the truth.

The Director: tell us who else will be assassinated in this country.

I said I had heard that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. will be assassinated. Who will assassinate Dr. King, Jr., the Negro leader? I said the man who is now in prison. (Mr. James Earl Ray was then in prison.) The Director asked where the assassination would take place. I said Texas...

I told the Director of the State Department that Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald had a gun. Go to him.

The Director told me that you might have a gun, too - so what if Oswald had a gun...“

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1902765591334883798
Also declassified is a document in which former intelligence officer J. Garrett Underhill told relatives that a faction within the CIA was involved in the murder and that he feared for his life.

Less than six months later, he was found dead in his Washington apartment, shot to death, but the coroner ruled it a suicide.

Yeah, but all that Sergei stuff came out years later...meaning it all could have been after the fact BS.
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Re: JFK Assassination Files - To release or not to release?
« Reply #87 on: March 25, 2025, 12:59:10 PM »
That excites some folks...

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