Author Topic: Happening in a people's paradise with the best socialist medicine: Coronavirus (Read 163088 times)

Libertas · « **Reply #160 on:** March 29, 2020, 10:20:58 AM »

Guy? He's a she...aka "Polyanna"...

And yeah we've known from the start that this thing is less deadly than the flu as far as a straight comparison goes and the less deadly "S" variant more common than the lethal "L" variant and it is problematic for the elderly and immune-system-compromised...and yeah the doomsters and me-di-uh hype caused a panic that shoved people into closer contact with panic-buying and yes some are exploiting this and as a result the Admin was forced to address the man-made economic impacts of mitigation and isolation...and graphs like this illustrate more than anything how hard it is tell cut through the noise making everything a "what if" rabbit-hole excursion into oblivion.

We have no other choice than to weather the madness and see what the long-term impact is...is now economic more than anything.

ETA - Going to venture out to my sister's...my father is feeling down, hard being stuck inside and not seeing other people...not supposed to be in a hard lockdown so hopefully travel goes unimpeded.

Pablo de Fleurs · « **Reply #161 on:** March 29, 2020, 11:56:53 AM »

Quote from: Libertas on March 29, 2020, 10:20:58 AM

ETA - Going to venture out to my sister's...my father is feeling down, hard being stuck inside and not seeing other people...not supposed to be in a hard lockdown so hopefully travel goes unimpeded.

I travel with a plastic grocery bag with a few non-perishables in it (box of cereal, can of soup, etc) on the front passenger seat.

I haven't been stopped - but if i am - I'm delivering groceries to a shut-in. What a-hole is gonna' bust yer balls fer that?

Libertas · « **Reply #162 on:** March 30, 2020, 08:09:39 AM »

Quote from: Pablo de Fleurs on March 29, 2020, 11:56:53 AM

Quote from: Libertas on March 29, 2020, 10:20:58 AM

ETA - Going to venture out to my sister's...my father is feeling down, hard being stuck inside and not seeing other people...not supposed to be in a hard lockdown so hopefully travel goes unimpeded.

I travel with a plastic grocery bag with a few non-perishables in it (box of cereal, can of soup, etc) on the front passenger seat.

I haven't been stopped - but if i am - I'm delivering groceries to a shut-in. What a-hole is gonna' bust yer balls fer that?

I really didn't expect any problems on the road but ya never know...seems to be a stepped up LEO presence though...saw a MN HP roll hard after somebody going the other direction on the main 2-lane road on my way to my sister's place...and no food that I am aware of but lots of ass-kickery items that could produce some.

Father was well, but is tired and looks frail, turns 89 on Thursday and still misses my mother a lot. This mess could not have happened at a worse time, but is a blessing my mother didn't have to experience it...wouldn't have understood a bit of it and would have been super high-risk.

News items of interest today -

1) Italy, hosed by the EU...blind victims of Chi-Com's twice over...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eus-betrayal-italy-may-be-its-undoing

If they had enough people of sense they would follow the UK out of the EU and become sovereign again.

2) I hope this isn't a case of being told not to worry when there is reason to worry...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pentagon-orders-essential-staff-deep-underground-mountain-bunker-pandemic-prep

It's a Tylerz post and since the USAF is only saying folks from nearby Peterson AFB to Cheyenne (which may be a prudent move sans nefarious implication) I suspect it is a typical Tylerz hyping op, the usual anti-US Russophile obediently following his handler in Moscow.

Libertas · « **Reply #163 on:** March 30, 2020, 01:40:32 PM »

Nancy "the fiddler" Pelosi is getting totally lit up over her evil and despicable comment over the weekend, proving yet again the House is a vile nest of demonically-possessed reprobates. People with common sense would immediately remove her as Speaker and expel her from Congress!

Nancy Pelosi is accusing Trump of not responding fast enough to the Chinese coronavirus.

This is the same person that fiddled around with a sham impeachment* that wasted valuable time…

You’re not fooling anyone, Nancy.

— Sen. Marsha Blackburn (@MarshaBlackburn) March 29, 2020

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/29/blackburn-pelosi-impeachment-coronavirus/

Yes, the demonically-possessed were all about not just screwing the people over by overturning an election on fraudulent charges based upon partisan fiction and illegal spying on a Presidential candidate, a President-elect and a sitting President from the get-go, they were also all about ignoring everything else including COVID-19!

Graham said Pelosi made the “most shameful, disgusting statement by any politician in modern history.”

https://100percentfedup.com/lindsey-graham-pelosi-made-the-most-shameful-disgusting-statement-by-any-politician-in-modern-history/

No sh*t?! How about getting McConnell to refuse to work on anything with the House until they remove that evil-hearted POS?!

Franklin lights her up...

https://www.wnd.com/2020/03/franklin-graham-spanks-pelosi-saying-president-fiddles-people-dying/

...all spot-on, but I would prefer a thunderbolt to the head of that demented succubus!

There she goes now...

https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/disturbing-footage-shows-dead-bodies-loaded-onto-truck-outside-brooklyn-hospital/

...oh wait, those are victims of the People's Gulag of NYC, nevermind.

"She’s a sick puppy, in my opinion," Trump said.

The president hit back Monday, saying “there’s something wrong with the woman.”

“All she did for the first long time was impeach, impeach, impeach,” Trump said. “That’s all she did. She’s controlled by the radical left, by AOC plus 3, for her to make a statement like that, I think it’s a disgrace, to her country and her family.”

“She focused on impeachment and she lost, and she looked like a fool,” he said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-coronavirus-to-peak-around-easter-slams-pelosi-criticism-in-fox-friends-interview

Yup, sick evil and twisted to the core.

https://saraacarter.com/fda-approves-emergency-drugs-to-fight-coronavirus/

Something new for the demonically-possessed to rail against? How about those batshyt crazy Prog governors, just peed on their illegal criminalization of this treatment option.

Pandora · « **Reply #164 on:** March 30, 2020, 02:55:29 PM »

Oh? You're hoping/expecting for something good from McConnell after he told the R Senators they needed to swallow (gag) and vote for the two trillion 'Chinese virus' bill? Fuhgeddaboudit.

Libertas · « **Reply #165 on:** March 30, 2020, 03:09:39 PM »

Yes, barking at the moon is one of my vices...and a mild one at that!

John Florida · « **Reply #166 on:** March 30, 2020, 05:40:56 PM »

Quote from: Libertas on March 30, 2020, 03:09:39 PM

Yes, barking at the moon is one of my vices...and a mild one at that!

Yeah you're the only one that's barked at the moon .

Alphabet Soup · « **Reply #167 on:** March 30, 2020, 09:57:05 PM »

Because stress, irritation, and tension wasn't high enough during our lockdown our illustrious (spit!) governor has enacted a special "rat out your neighbor" hotline for China Virus infractions.

I guarantee that this won't go down easy....

Pandora · « **Reply #168 on:** March 30, 2020, 10:16:18 PM »

After this is over, there will be a reckoning. And there damn well better be; it's past time.

Libertas · « **Reply #169 on:** March 31, 2020, 08:05:35 AM »

Quote from: Alphabet Soup on March 30, 2020, 09:57:05 PM

Because stress, irritation, and tension wasn't high enough during our lockdown our illustrious (spit!) governor has enacted a special "rat out your neighbor" hotline for China Virus infractions.

I guarantee that this won't go down easy....

I saw that somewhere else too, cannot remember where though...

That's a batshyt-crazy step towards BITS...get people fighting each other and pretend it wasn't your thuggery that started it...typical prog...scratch them slightly and a gush of despotism spills out.

The DC Demoscat Mayor is threatening to send the goons and drag people to jail and empty their bank accounts...

https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/dc-mayor-threatens-jail-time-for-leaving-home-during-coronavirus/

Reckoning? Oh yeah, big-time! And the Demoscats are doing all they can to expedite it.

ETA - On the topic of reckoning...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hosptital-exec-fired-after-discussing-ways-ensuring-trump-supporters-get-coronavirus

Far from a one-off in this industry...dime a dozen...this one just got caught shooting off it's mouth.

Update (1100ET): The novel coronavirus outbreak in the US has reached yet another grim milestone: the number of casualties has surpassed the death toll from 9/11.

The death toll stood at 3,170 as of 11 am ET according to the Washington Post. That's compared with 2,977 lost during the World Trade Center attacks, the deadliest attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-reports-deadliest-day-confirms-largest-jump-covid-19-cases-live-updates

Oh yeah, Tylerz? What's the point of calling this out? Just more bash-America crap? Blame Trump? Are you calling for a declaration of war on the Chi-Com's for this bio-attack? If not STFU & STFD! More people die from the regular flu every year...and we hear nothing from your Putin-pecker-polishing ass!

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-calls-2t-infrastructure-package-phase-4-stimulus

The odd's of the Wicked Witch of the House not junking this latest helicopter drop heavily with socialist crap? Zero.

Tick/Tock

Libertas · « **Reply #170 on:** March 31, 2020, 11:01:26 AM »

This is interesting...and hopefully helps lead to its continued weakening and burning out -

As COVID-19 blankets the globe - now having officially infected over 800,000 people in 179 countries, causing over 39,000 deaths - scientists are tracking a multitude of strains, according to USA Today.

The virus has undergone over a hundred tiny mutations which act like genetic fingerprints - allowing researchers to see how the virus is migrating and splitting into similar but new subtypes, which can be seen at the website NextStrain.org.
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Frequent sequencing of the virus has allowed researchers to draw several conclusions; for example, social distancing and shelter-in-place orders appear to be working in some areas, and that the virus doesn't appear to be growing more lethal as it evolves.

"The virus mutates so slowly that the virus strains are fundamentally very similar to each other," said infectious disease specialist Charlies Chiu of the University of California, San Francisco School of Medicine. "The outbreaks are trackable. We have the ability to do genomic sequencing almost in real-time to see what strains or lineages are circulating," he added.

Chiu also believes that it's unlikely that the difference in strains is responsible for the virus hitting people differently - with most some feeling only slightly under the weather for a day or two, 15% needing hospitalization, and a mortality rate that varies by country (and likely by testing rates).

SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes the COVID-19 illness, began circulating in China around mid-November or mid-December. Its genome is made up of approximately 30,000 base pairs - while a human has over 3 billion. According to the report, the virus's most divergent strains contain only 11 base pair changes.

So far, most cases on the U.S. West Coast are linked to a strain first identified in Washington state. It may have come from a man who had been in Wuhan, China, the virus’ epicenter, and returned home on Jan. 15. It is only three mutations away from the original Wuhan strain, according to work done early in the outbreak by Trevor Bedford, a computational biologist at Fred Hutch, a medical research center in Seattle.

On the East Coast there are several strains, including the one from Washington and others that appear to have made their way from China to Europe and then to New York and beyond, Chiu said. -USA Today

Of note, the general public should probably leave analysis of the above 'phylogenetic tree' to the experts, as they can be "a little dangerous" to decipher, according to professor Kristian Anderson of Scripps Research - a nonprofit biomedical science research facility in La Jolla, California.

"This is the first time phylogenetic trees have been all over Twitter," he said, adding "Remember, we’re seeing a very small glimpse into the much larger pandemic. We have half a million described cases right now but maybe 1,000 genomes sequenced. So there are a lot of lineages we’re missing."

Anderson added that COVID-19 does not mutate very fast - in fact, it's 8-10 times slower than the influenza virus, and closer to other coronaviruses such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS).

Lastly, and perhaps the best news of the report - it's not expected to spontaneously evolve into a more deadly form, as it's under no pressure to evolve due to its hyper-virulent nature.

Read the rest of the report here.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/there-are-least-8-strains-coronavirus-heres-what-we-know

NextStrain link - https://nextstrain.org/ncov

Libertas · « **Reply #171 on:** March 31, 2020, 12:41:37 PM »

Wow, 1st Amendment? Separation of Church and State? Demoscats believe in none of that!

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/29/new-york-mayor-bill-deblasio-announces-immediate-government-suspension-of-first-amendment/

Make them use guns!!!

Pandora · « **Reply #172 on:** March 31, 2020, 02:07:54 PM »

Warren Wilhelm has company -

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pastor-of-tampa-church-that-held-2-large-sunday-services-arrested-jailed/ar-BB11VzzL?ocid=msedgntp

Libertas · « **Reply #173 on:** March 31, 2020, 02:54:11 PM »

Yeah, that dude a little to goofy for my tastes, but if what he said is true on the precaution front, there ought to be some coordination and cooperation with the County so rights are not snuffed...not arrests and fines and threats. WTF?! Is this China? They have recall in that County? If not they need it. I just do not like officials whose first instinct is trample people's rights. Not even an attempt to reach a workable solution...

Pathetic.

Even our demoscats here haven't gone that far...

(Yet?)

More crap like this goes down unimpeded, it's going to invite more thuggery, you watch!

John Florida · « **Reply #174 on:** March 31, 2020, 03:19:24 PM »

I wonder what the Jehovah's are handling this?

paulh · « **Reply #175 on:** March 31, 2020, 04:37:20 PM »

Quote from: John Florida on March 31, 2020, 03:19:24 PM

I wonder what the Jehovah's are handling this?

Smartly. Their weekly meeting + Sunday service are via video and has been for a few weeks.

John Florida · « **Reply #176 on:** March 31, 2020, 06:19:12 PM »

Quote from: paulh on March 31, 2020, 04:37:20 PM

Quote from: John Florida on March 31, 2020, 03:19:24 PM
I wonder what the Jehovah's are handling this?

Smartly. Their weekly meeting + Sunday service are via video and has been for a few weeks.

Cool cause you never hear about them.

patentlymn · « **Reply #177 on:** March 31, 2020, 07:23:58 PM »

I read that overall flu deaths this season (including Wuhan) are lower than normal.
Sorry, no links.

ToddF · « **Reply #178 on:** April 01, 2020, 06:10:36 AM »

All deaths took a plunge when these quarantines started. Car accidents, flu, etc.

https://accordingtohoyt.com/2020/03/27/covid-19-and-us-mortality-by-i-ratel/

Libertas · « **Reply #179 on:** April 01, 2020, 07:59:03 AM »

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/whats-behind-italys-outrageous-10-mortality-rate-covid-19

Irony...a weak flu season in Italy may have increased vulnerable population pool for C-19 and that may be what increased the mortality rate there.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/tucker-carlson-who-helped-china-cover-covid-19

Chi-Com's, WHO, GoebbelsMedia, coup-throwing demoscats...

Reckoning!!!

ETA - On the "vibe" front...

Another surreal scene right out of disaster flicks - https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/travel/a31981983/we-got-stuck-in-the-county-north-carolina-closed-for-covid-19/

Probably not the only one. Here in MN & WI the locals are telling the cabin owners to stay away...no word of barricades that I know of.

Understandable from a lack of healthcare resource perspective to handle larger numbers...the rest is BS...and not every person in the cities is a douchebag...

We'll see as we enter this "peak" period how people react.