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Facebook, specifically Zuckerberg, should face murder charges for this - Big Tech politics killing people

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 ::noose:: ::guillotine:: ::overkill::
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JoeFraud Amnerika...

https://nypost.com/2021/01/31/biden-administration-unaware-of-20m-covid-19-vaccine-doses-location/

Lemme guess...not JoeFraud's fault...not Herr Fauci's fault...

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/fauci-says-possible-cdc-will-recommend-americans-wear-two-masks

Pathetic, medically ignorant, illegal...WRONG!

It doesn't matter how many face-diapers a mentally-stunted human puts on IT WILL NOT STOP A VIRUS!  Only an N100 medical mask will...and both are overkill for the vast majority of the population that is healthy and free of respiratory/immune system issues!  That and the miniscule mortality rate makes this double plus STUPID!

So...

Intelligent folks say  ::doublebird::
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/fauci-says-possible-cdc-will-recommend-americans-wear-two-masks

Pathetic, medically ignorant, illegal...WRONG!

It doesn't matter how many face-diapers a mentally-stunted human puts on IT WILL NOT STOP A VIRUS!  Only an N100 medical mask will...and both are overkill for the vast majority of the population that is healthy and free of respiratory/immune system issues!  That and the miniscule mortality rate makes this double plus STUPID!

So...

Intelligent folks say  ::doublebird::

I'm willing to broker a deal . . . a negotiation . . . a compromise (to achieve, unity)

2 masks worn in exchange for 2 bullets in the skull(s) of a D.C. Democrat or Rino (then we'll move on to the blue governors).
What's that - - 2 is good but 3 is better?? Fine - same deal!

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MOAR!   :D

See this?

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/scientists-ominously-warn-covid-reducing-fertility

Wait till they realize vaccine caused sterility is real.

https://www.rt.com/news/514450-covid19-reduce-male-fertility/

You know its true when you search on Goolag and find a plethora of so-called "de-bunking/conspiracy theories" come back and they are all parroted by corrupt government agencies, corrupt politicians, corrupt government-dependent industries!  All scientists and doctors that speak out against all the ills of this vaccine, the masks et al get gagged and bagged.
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MOAR!   :D

See this?

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/scientists-ominously-warn-covid-reducing-fertility

Wait till they realize vaccine caused sterility is real.

https://www.rt.com/news/514450-covid19-reduce-male-fertility/

You know its true when you search on Goolag and find a plethora of so-called "de-bunking/conspiracy theories" come back and they are all parroted by corrupt government agencies, corrupt politicians, corrupt government-dependent industries!  All scientists and doctors that speak out against all the ills of this vaccine, the masks et al get gagged and bagged.

I don't believe it.  They're pushing this crap to scare people into getting the non-vaccine jab.
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MOAR!   :D

See this?

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/scientists-ominously-warn-covid-reducing-fertility

Wait till they realize vaccine caused sterility is real.

https://www.rt.com/news/514450-covid19-reduce-male-fertility/

You know its true when you search on Goolag and find a plethora of so-called "de-bunking/conspiracy theories" come back and they are all parroted by corrupt government agencies, corrupt politicians, corrupt government-dependent industries!  All scientists and doctors that speak out against all the ills of this vaccine, the masks et al get gagged and bagged.

I don't believe it.  They're pushing this crap to scare people into getting the non-vaccine jab.

Yes...and LYING about the dangers of the jab!
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MOAR!   :D

See this?

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/scientists-ominously-warn-covid-reducing-fertility

Wait till they realize vaccine caused sterility is real.

https://www.rt.com/news/514450-covid19-reduce-male-fertility/

You know its true when you search on Goolag and find a plethora of so-called "de-bunking/conspiracy theories" come back and they are all parroted by corrupt government agencies, corrupt politicians, corrupt government-dependent industries!  All scientists and doctors that speak out against all the ills of this vaccine, the masks et al get gagged and bagged.

I don't believe it.  They're pushing this crap to scare people into getting the non-vaccine jab.

Yes...and LYING about the dangers of the jab!

This postmodern existence: living under the twin lies of
1. Bogus #Plandemic/Fake Vaccine &
2. Illegitimate government pushing unconstitutional change via E.O.

is the underlying cause of the subtle distress to my soul. I want to lash out, slice & dice -- but @ present, my reach is too short.
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I think they are not lying about the dangers of the jab, but you're not hearing it from TPTB.  (I might have misunderstood you, Libertas.  I wrote this under the impression you're thinking it isn't dangerous.  If not, sorry.)

It's not a vaccine; there is no live or killed virus in it; it uses mRNA>protein spikes; it's so new they've not thoroughly tested it (well, they are now, on the population); they have used this kind of thing on mice and they seem to be fine until they run into the virus against which they're supposedly protected and the mice then get so sick=cytokine storm.

I'll not attempt to argue anyone out of taking it, but not for me.
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Yup, it is a treatment not a vaccine...and a dangerous treatment.

At work they post pictures of people getting jabbed and smiling with a thumbs up...every damned one...I saw one person I knew who I thought might know better...we'll, scratch that.
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Via National Bolshevik Corp...

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/07/covid-herd-immunity-biden-says-getting-there-by-summers-end-will-be-hard-.html

...the temporary permanent lockdown of Americans will continue until all accept servitude...

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Brexit was supposed to harm Britain's ability to get a covid vaccine. Instead the UK did fine while the EU really screwed up, thanks to Ursula VonderLeyen.
Now she doubles down on stupid and scolds Britain.

https://youtu.be/Du7yMkCUd1o
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https://healthy-skeptic.com/2021/02/05/a-head-full-of-coronavirus-research-part-100/

A Head Full of Coronavirus Research, Part 100
By Kevin RocheFebruary 5, 2021Commentary
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Here is how delusional our supposed public health and scientific experts are.  This article is in Lancet and was written in regard to the Barcelona study on transmission.  (Lancet Article)   Here are the relevant quotes, the implication should be obvious:  ” Although the effectiveness of masks is well established, in the analysis of Marks and colleagues, self-reported mask use surprisingly did not affect the risk of transmission. Similarly, Ng and colleagues did not find an effect of self-reported mask use on risk of COVID-19 transmission in their analysis of contact tracing data from Singapore.  Rather than questioning the usefulness of mask-wearing policies, these results underscore the necessity of a multi-layered comprehensive approach to infection prevention and control.”

Let’s see, could you be any stupider or dense.  They are acknowledging evidence that masks didn’t make a difference in transmission, but lead in by saying it is well-established that they do work.

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This study from the British Medical Journal examined the effectiveness of various measures to limit transmission.  (BMJ Article)   Mortality was the primary outcome and 37 countries were included.  Only two factors, out of a huge array of health, demographic, economic and lockdown stringency ones, seemed to have a significant relationship to deaths, one was limiting international travel (hmmm, which President may have done, while being criticized for it by his successor and the preening Governor of New York, the butcher of nursing homes) and the other was tuberculosis vaccination.  Lockdown and other type measures seemed to have no effect.  Gee, who would have thought that.  Lockdowns not only kill, they don’t make a bit of difference.
...

Sweden had a 10% mobility reduction, the West Coast 55%, and France and Columbia, 83%.  There was almost no effect on virus transmission of different levels of mobility restriction.
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This study finds evidence in nine countries for significantly reduced standards of living already.  (Science Article)   Nine countries from poorer areas of the world were included and in all the epidemic responses have resulted in a significant decline in income, and a rise in food insecurity and poverty.  This obviously afflicts the poorest most and the toll on children is simply devastating.
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Here is a paper said to support some lockdowns. It appears to use cases rather than deaths.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-020-01009-0?fbclid=IwAR14XmzhfdV8Hq5hv5_mxHPHTVUpguiooiHfeOtKP1B1e3Scpx9mukpMQns

Here is a link to other papers.
https://thefatemperor.com/published-papers-and-data-on-lockdown-weak-efficacy-and-lockdown-huge-harms/
Published Papers and Data on Lockdown Weak Efficacy – and Lockdown Huge Harms
Here collated are the papers of shame – the lockdown ideology is destroying our societal health, selling the lie of saving lives. Lockdowns cost net suffering and lives – by a huge margin. Here we gather together the evidence.
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There is no vaccine...just like in the matrix there is no spoon!   ::outrage::
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I had read that the WHO did not recommend mask wearing in Oct 2019 so I finally looked it up.
In short, there is very little evidence that masks do much good but in a severe epidemic they might help. Epidemic means in one country while pandemic means in multiple countries. ?

I found this Oct 2019 WHO pub on influenza.
https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/329438/9789241516839-eng.pdf?ua=1

NPI non-pharmaceutical intervention
page 8/91
Available evidence
The evidence base for this guideline included systematic reviews of 18 NPIs, covering:
• personal protective measures (e.g. hand hygiene, respiratory etiquette and face masks);
• environmental measures (e.g. surface and object cleaning, and other environmental measures);
• social distancing measures (e.g. contact tracing, isolation of sick individuals, quarantine of
exposed individuals, school measures and closures, workplace measures and closures, and
The evidence base on the eff
avoiding crowding); and
• travel-related measures (e.g. travel advice, entry and exit screening, internal travel restrictions
and border closure).ectiveness of NPIs in community settings is limited, and the overall quality of evidence was very low for most interventions. There have been a number of highquality randomized controlled trials (RCTs) demonstrating that personal protective measures
such as hand hygiene and face masks have, at best, a small effect on influenza transmission, although higher compliance in a severe pandemic might improve effectiveness.
However, there are few RCTs for other NPIs, and much of the evidence base is from observational studies and computer simulations. School closures can reduce influenza transmission but would need to be
carefully timed in order to achieve mitigation objectives. Travel-related measures are unlikely to be successful in most locations because current screening tools such as thermal scanners cannot identify pre-symptomatic infections and afebrile infections, and travel restrictions and travel bans
are likely to have prohibitive economic consequences.


for pandemic
Moderate

Hand hygiene
Respiratory etiquette
Face masks for symptomatic individuals
Surface and object cleaning
Increased ventilation
Isolation of sick individuals
Travel advice

High
As above, plus
Avoiding crowding
As abordinaryove, plus
Face masks for public
School measures and closures

Extra
As above, plus
Workplace measures and closures
Internal travel restrictions

page 9/91 table 1
Not recommended in
any circumstances [in epidemic]
UV light
Modifying humidity
Contact tracing
Quarantine of exposed
individuals
Entry and exit screening
Internal travel restrictions
Border closure

However, social distancing measures (e.g. contact tracing, isolation, quarantine, school and workpl ace measures
and closures, and avoiding crowding) can be highly disruptive, and the cost of these measures must be weighed against their potential impact. Early assessments of the severity and likely impact of the pandemic strain will help public health authorities to determine the strength of
intervention. In all influenza epidemics and pandemics, recommending that those who are ill isolate themselves at home should reduce transmission. Facilitating this should be a particular priority. In more severe pandemics, measures to increase social distancing in schools, workplaces
and public areas would further reduce transmission.

There is also a lack of evidence for the effectiveness of improved respiratory
etiquette and the use of face masks in community settings during influenza epidemics and pandemics. Nevertheless, these NPIs may be conditionally recommended for ill persons because of other considerations (e.g. the high cost of face masks), and they are generally feasible and acceptable. It is likely that these personal interventions could be effective if implemented in
combination.


page 20
Face masks worn by asymptomatic
people are conditionally
recommended
in severe
epidemics or pandemics, to reduce
transmission in the community.
Although there is no evidence
that this is effective in reducing
transmission, there is mechanistic
plausibility for the potential
effectiveness
of this measure.

A disposable surgical mask is
recommended to be worn at all
times by symptomatic individuals
when in contact with other
individuals. Although there is no
evidence that this is effective in
reducing transmission, there is
mechanistic plausibility for the
potential effectiveness of this
measure.
 Quality of evidence for above
Moderate (lack of effectiveness in reducing influenza transmission)

page 23
Workplace measures (e.g.
encouraging teleworking from home,
staggering shifts, and loosening
policies for sick leave and paid leave)
are conditionally recommended, with
gradation of interventions based on
severity. Extreme measures such as
workplace closures can be considered
in extraordinarily severe pandemics in
order to reduce transmission.

Quality of evidence for above
Very low
(effective)
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They're recommending measures that they admit are not effective!!  ::pullhair::  so why recommend them?!   ::pullhair::   ::gaah::

I'll tell you what else:  Biden's EOs are not law; all Governor lockdowns/masking orders are not law; the ADA is law, passed by Congress and signed by the President, however, so all public accomodations (bars/restaurants/retail establishments) are violating the ADA by denying entry to unmasked individuals with medical exemptions
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They're recommending measures that they admit are not effective!!  ::pullhair::  so why recommend them?!   ::pullhair::   ::gaah::

I'll tell you what else:  Biden's EOs are not law; all Governor lockdowns/masking orders are not law; the ADA is law, passed by Congress and signed by the President, however, so all public accomodations (bars/restaurants/retail establishments) are violating the ADA by denying entry to unmasked individuals with medical exemptions

The CDC mask mandate in public transport (including Uber) was an "order", not even a regulation, which would have taken longer.
I have no idea what an order is.
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