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Re: Happening in a people's paradise with the best socialist medicine: Coronavirus
« Reply #1220 on: September 29, 2021, 11:29:18 AM »
I stopped in an independent pharmacy yesterday to ask if an Ivermectin script would be filled.  The pharmacist, an Indian immigrant woman, said that NC's 'Pharmacy Board' issued a policy banning th.e filling of Ivermectin prescriptions for everything except parasites (and something else which I don't recall). 

I mention 'Indian immigrant' because I'm pretty sure she's aware of India's use of Ivermectin to null the WuFlu there.  When I said that the Pharmacy Board was banning the use of an FDA approved drug, she got defensive, said it wasn't her rule.  Feh.

From what I've read elsewhere, the pharmacist can surmise the purpose of the script by the dosing instructions, as parasite infection requires a lower dose.  Maybe something to make note of.

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It may well be that ivermectin is not that helpful, but it cannot harm you. The news stories are from people taking the sheep dip, massive over dose, or fear and anxiety after taking some horse paste.

I posted Ann Barnardt's piece on injectable Ivermectin with its accompanying vid on how to get the paste-dose correct because I'd hoped it would be helpful to folks here and to get further disseminated from here.  She warned, in bold, not to deal with the drench type, but to swallow the proper dose of the injectable.

Horse >>drink water.  Punny, huh?

I am so tired of propaganda. I have been reading that horse paste ivermectin is bad for you because the formulation is different. I have been waiting a year for any specifics. Some MD speculated that more impurities were allowed in the paste and fewer in the injectables. Notice how there never any specifics in anti horse past warnings.

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Re: Happening in a people's paradise with the best socialist medicine: Coronavirus
« Reply #1221 on: September 29, 2021, 11:32:07 AM »
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As usual, I drilled down to eliminate the infowars part so I could share it. Infowars shared this story but is NOT the original source. I think I got this infowars link from vox day, whom some people also ignore.  This is serious.  BTW I read of similar stories long ago, via vox day. I think they were for British Airways or some some such. Pilots were dying soon after the vaxx. Maybe something to do with going to altitude. These were anecdotal but numerous.

Earlier on I posted some Rumble videos from Simone Gold. One was from a former naval surgeon who told similar scary stories with large numbers of healthy young people harmed from the vaxx. She also said that the armed services keep real good records on the health of their members. Not just self reporting like VAERS.



Army Flight Surgeon Urges Pentagon To Ground Pilots Who Took COVID Injection

An Army flight surgeon is recommending that the Pentagon grounds all pilots who took the COVID shot due to their risk of cardiac episodes during flight and other documented adverse reactions.

Lieutenant Colonel Theresa Long, a Brigade Surgeon for the 1st Aviation Brigade Ft. Rucker, explained in an affidavit drafted under the Military Whistleblower Protection Act how perfectly healthy pilots have been suffering a myriad of adverse side effects, including myocarditis.

“I personally observed the most physically fit female Soldier I have seen in over 20 years in the Army, go from Colligate level athlete training for Ranger School, to being physically debilitated with cardiac problems, newly diagnosed pituitary brain tumor, thyroid dysfunction within weeks of getting vaccinated,” Long testified in the affidavit.

    “Several military physicians have shared with me their firsthand experience with a significant increase in the number of young Soldiers with migraines, menstrual irregularities, cancer, suspected myocarditis and reporting cardiac symptoms after vaccination. Numerous Soldiers and DOD civilians have told me of how they were sick, bed-ridden, debilitated, and unable to work for days to weeks after vaccination. I have also recently reviewed three flight crew members’ medical records, all of which presented with both significant and aggressive systemic health issues.”

Long then described how several service members at Fort Hood were injured and even killed shortly after taking the jab.

    “Today I received word of one fatality and two ICU cases on Fort Hood; the deceased was an Army pilot who could have been flying at the time. All three pulmonary embolism events happened within 48 hours of their vaccination. I cannot attribute this result to anything other than the Covid 19 vaccines as the source of these events. Each person was in top physical condition before the inoculation and each suffered the event within 2 days post vaccination.”

    “Correlation by itself does not equal causation, however, significant causal patterns do exist that raise correlation into a probable cause; and the burden to prove otherwise falls on the authorities such as the CDC, FDA, and pharmaceutical manufacturers. I find the illnesses, injuries and fatalities observed to be the proximate and causal effect of the Covid 19 vaccinations.”

Long then urged Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin to ground all pilots who received the COVID injection.

“In accordance with the foregoing, I hereby recommend to the Secretary of Defense that all pilots, crew and flight personnel in the military service who required hospitalization from injection or received any Covid 19 vaccination be grounded similarly for further dispositive assessment,” she said.

“I must and will therefore ground all active flight personnel who received the vaccinations until such time as the causation of these serious systemic health risks can be more fully and adequately assessed,” Long added.

Active-duty soldiers have about three months to get both doses of the COVID-19 injection or face a possible discharge from the force, the Army announced last week.

Many service members are nevertheless refusing to take the injection, and some already quit the military over its draconian vaccine mandates.
HERE IS HER AFFIDAVIT
https://www.scribd.com/document/527710479/Affidavit-of-Whistleblower-Ltc-Long#download&from_embed
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Right now they FAA only has regs in place to prevent being a primary pilot or flight crew within 24 hours of a jab...

As for the stories of reactions after that limit which I assume the above instances must be referencing...and while I would expect to find more on this at places like Ace of Spades I cannot...but I do not discount them as statist media like USA say they've been "de-bunked" as false, ergo there must be events actually happening.

Between this and pilots refusing jabs walking off and others facing courts martial and pink slips...they'll be nobody flying anything...

That's gotta be great news for adversaries, eh?

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Re: Happening in a people's paradise with the best socialist medicine: Coronavirus
« Reply #1222 on: September 29, 2021, 03:29:04 PM »
https://thelibertydaily.com/youtube-goes-full-vaxx-nanny-bans-huge-accounts-that-posted-the-truth-about-the-jabs/

Goolag goes full-Goebbels on YouTubers challenging any aspect of Marxist jab's...

They can't handle the truth...
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Re: Happening in a people's paradise with the best socialist medicine: Coronavirus
« Reply #1223 on: September 29, 2021, 05:59:34 PM »
  When I said that the Pharmacy Board was banning the use of an FDA approved drug, she got defensive, said it wasn't her rule.  Feh.

From what I've read elsewhere, the pharmacist can surmise the purpose of the script by the dosing instructions, as parasite infection requires a lower dose.  Maybe something to make note of.


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WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 2021

FDA, CDC, AND NC DHHS CONTINUE TO WARN AGAINST THE USE OF IVERMECTIN FOR PREVENTION OR TREATMENT OF COVID-19.  Pharmacists have reported receiving increased numbers of prescriptions for ivermectin, as well as hostile and abusive communications concerning the same from some prescribers and patients.

The United States Food and Drug Administration has re-emphasized that ivermectin is not approved for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19.  It is approved for the treatment of intestinal conditions caused by certain parasitic worms and, in topical formulation, certain external parasites.  Veterinary formulations are approved to treat certain internal and external parasites – but not to treat any condition in humans.   FDA emphasizes that taking large doses of ivermectin is dangerous.  And no reliable studies support the safety or efficacy of ivermectin in the treatment or prevention of COVID-19.  More information from FDA is found here:  https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19.

The United States Centers for Disease Control issued an alert on August 26, 2021 noting a sharp rise in serious illness associated with ingestion of ivermectin products (human and veterinary) for purported treatment or prevention of COVID-19.   Severe gastrointestinal and neurotoxic effects are being reported.  Like the FDA, the CDC emphasizes that ivermectin is not approved for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19, no reliable studies support its use in the treatment or prevention of COVID-19, and improper use is dangerous.  More information from CDC is found here:  https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/2021/han00449.asp.

State Health Director Betsey Tilson has also issued a warning in light of spike in prescriptions, poison control calls, and emergency room visits.  Dr. Tilson likewise reminds health care practitioners that ivermectin is neither approved nor authorized by FDA to treat or prevent COVID-19 – and that is not a substitute for COVID-19 vaccine or approved treatments for the disease.  Dr. Tilson asks that all providers educate patients about the dangers of using ivermectin: http://www.ncbop.org/PDF/COVID19NCDHHSIvermectinRisksSept2021.pdf.

The North Carolina Medical Board has communicated these warnings to its licensees:  https://www.ncmedboard.org/resources-information/professional-resources/publications/forum-newsletter/notice/cdc-warns-against-inappropriate-ivermectin-use.  And the Federation of State Medical Boards has warned physicians that spreading COVID-19 misinformation risk disciplinary action by state medical boards, including suspension or revocation of license.  https://www.fsmb.org/advocacy/news-releases/fsmb-spreading-covid-19-vaccine-misinformation-may-put-medical-license-at-risk/

Pharmacists are reminded that they have a right to refuse to fill or refill any prescription order if doing so would be contrary to their professional judgment.  Moreover, a pharmacist shall not fill or refill a prescription order if, in the exercise of the pharmacist’s professional judgement, there is a question as to its safety for the patient.  21 NCAC 46.1801.  As well, pharmacists have an obligation to engage in neither negligent nor unprofessional conduct in the practice of pharmacy.  G.S. 90-85.38(a)(9) and (a)(10).

I would accuse your pharmacist  of practicing medicine. Ivermectin will not and can't be a safety concern if asprin isn not
But -- f*ck them
Go get your livestock  inject-able and use that
I have been taking it for months now.  No ill effects. If it does nothing against COVID - fine.
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Re: Happening in a people's paradise with the best socialist medicine: Coronavirus
« Reply #1224 on: September 29, 2021, 06:05:34 PM »

Long story, I asked for the script to be sent o Walmart, Roseville. They screwed up more than once and finally yesterday, I talked with Walmart pharmacy guy. he informed he that Walmart would refuse to fill the ivermectin script.

In most states a pharmacy is not allowed to refuse a prescription. If they do its "practicing medicine" because they are countermanding your doctor's orders.
And tell them to get Walmart's head office on the phone for you - that you want to hear the exact policy they have implemented. Because your pharmacist is lying out his a**
Walmart corporate ain't issuing a policy that is telling its pharmacies to countermand doctor's orders. That will land it is legal trouble in almost every  state
any policy would be for states where they can get away with it


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Re: Happening in a people's paradise with the best socialist medicine: Coronavirus
« Reply #1225 on: September 29, 2021, 08:48:54 PM »
Submitted for your consideration:

I've been attending a few Freedom Rallies & have gotten to know several local patriots, most of whom are on an App called Telegram.
I haven't used it much, but tonight I listened to a video presentation from a U.K. funeral director (John O'Looney, Milton Keynes Family Funeral Services).
Here are some of his observations:

  • Although many more COVID labeled deaths, no increase in the overall death rate in 2020
  • 2020 was actually lower in business volume for him than was 2019
  • Vaccination began in the U.K. on 1/6/21 - since then there has been a massive increase in Delta variant deaths (which he predicted to his group in December) - He labels the Delta variant death as "Vaccine injury" - created by the vaccine itslef
  • He has observed a MASSIVE prison (Great Britain's largest to date) in HMP Wellingborough -- with a crematorium & morgue right next to it (see link)
  • Such "prison/quarantine centers" are supposedly being built globally -- could they "house" future populations of unvaccinated?
  • He has observed ZERO child death from COVID & questions the need for child vaccination (says it's for future sterilization)

Inside Wellingborough's new mega prison, featuring river views and barless windows
The privately-run complex will be Britain's biggest ever prison

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Re: Happening in a people's paradise with the best socialist medicine: Coronavirus
« Reply #1226 on: September 29, 2021, 09:01:20 PM »
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... Go get your livestock  inject-able and use that
I have been taking it for months now.  No ill effects. If it does nothing against COVID - fine.

Last we checked in at Tractor Supply, the case was empty of the injectable.  Husband didn't ask anyone if they actually had any and were hiding it, so another trip is in order.

eta:  However, very little of that can be had by ordering online and what there can be had is very pricey.  None of the retail veterinarian supply houses have any.
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Re: Happening in a people's paradise with the best socialist medicine: Coronavirus
« Reply #1227 on: September 30, 2021, 08:18:35 AM »
Submitted for your consideration:

I've been attending a few Freedom Rallies & have gotten to know several local patriots, most of whom are on an App called Telegram.
I haven't used it much, but tonight I listened to a video presentation from a U.K. funeral director (John O'Looney, Milton Keynes Family Funeral Services).
Here are some of his observations:

  • Although many more COVID labeled deaths, no increase in the overall death rate in 2020
  • 2020 was actually lower in business volume for him than was 2019
  • Vaccination began in the U.K. on 1/6/21 - since then there has been a massive increase in Delta variant deaths (which he predicted to his group in December) - He labels the Delta variant death as "Vaccine injury" - created by the vaccine itslef
  • He has observed a MASSIVE prison (Great Britain's largest to date) in HMP Wellingborough -- with a crematorium & morgue right next to it (see link)
  • Such "prison/quarantine centers" are supposedly being built globally -- could they "house" future populations of unvaccinated?
  • He has observed ZERO child death from COVID & questions the need for child vaccination (says it's for future sterilization)

Inside Wellingborough's new mega prison, featuring river views and barless windows
The privately-run complex will be Britain's biggest ever prison

Oooh, but their describing it so glowingly and with pretty pictures and views of the river...

Next thing you know their luring kids with candy into panel vans...
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« Reply #1228 on: September 30, 2021, 08:55:47 AM »

Last we checked in at Tractor Supply, the case was empty of the injectable.  Husband didn't ask anyone if they actually had any and were hiding it, so another trip is in order.

eta:  However, very little of that can be had by ordering online and what there can be had is very pricey.  None of the retail veterinarian supply houses have any.

So they can't get too nuts with this - its a standard medication. All ranchers need it.  We literally already had a bottle because we give this to the yaks multiple times a year

the Ivermectin+ (plus)  is selling for $130 a bottle at this site - but I have no idea why since you DON'T WANT the PLUS ingredients for a COVID treatment. 

In the spring we bought the 250ml bottle for this same price.(and that is a little higher than the tractor supply - but not that much ) 
https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=3D70C03D-E24F-4641-8145-5F0A3748C827

that bottle is 125 doses for a 200lbs person.

Yes this bottle says "noromectin" -  its just a brand name. Look closer at the label and its 1% ivermectin injectable.

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PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

Ivermectin is derived from the avermectins, a family of potent, broad-spectrum antiparasitic agents isolated from fermentation of Streptomyces avermitilis.

Noromectin Injection is a clear, ready-to-use, sterile solution containing 1% ivermectin, 40% glycerol formal, and propylene glycol q.s. ad 100%.


from ann's page on it

https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/

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There are several brands and names of Ivermectin 1% injectable solution at my farm supply store and online.  Which do I buy?

I would recommend the least expensive one.  Ivermectin is off-patent, which means ANY pharmaceutical company can produce it, and almost every animal health Pharma company does, because Ivermectin is pretty much considered essential in animal agriculture today. Just look for “Ivermectin 1% Injectable solution”.  The brand is irrelevant.  It’s all exactly the same – just like aspirin in the human drug aisle.

What is in the other 99% of the 1% Livestock Injectable form?

59% propylene glycol, 40% glycerol formal.




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Re: Happening in a people's paradise with the best socialist medicine: Coronavirus
« Reply #1229 on: September 30, 2021, 09:03:14 AM »
I have no problem with any brand name as long as it is 1% injectable sterile solution.  I am on the notification list for when it's back in stock (at your link).   250mL of a different brand was $82 at Tractor Supply a few months ago.
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« Reply #1230 on: September 30, 2021, 09:20:36 AM »
New York AM radio (weather & traffic) is reporting that Broadway is "on again/off again" with breakthrough (Delta vaccine variant) cast & crew cases. Got me thinking about William Shakespeare's "All the world's a stage" quote (Jaques, Act 2 Scene 7 in As You Like It).

Why go to Broadway when . . . you're already IN it?


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« Reply #1231 on: September 30, 2021, 09:23:20 AM »
Nice! 

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« Reply #1232 on: September 30, 2021, 10:38:01 AM »
I have no problem with any brand name as long as it is 1% injectable sterile solution.  I am on the notification list for when it's back in stock (at your link).   250mL of a different brand was $82 at Tractor Supply a few months ago.

The stuff I bought a few month's ago-Durvet Ivermectin Paste 1.87%- was under 10 bucks a tube at the local horse supply outlet.

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« Reply #1233 on: September 30, 2021, 03:37:06 PM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/fully-vaxxed-former-cnn-contributor-marc-lamont-hill-suffers-heart-attack-hospitalized-blood-clots-blasts-nba-player-critical-covid-vax/

Marc Lamont Hill - heart attack and blood clots after being "fully vaxxed", refuses to consider his illness caused by the clot-shots, and denigrates the NBA player who won't get jabbed.

Talk about COGDIS.
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Re: Happening in a people's paradise with the best socialist medicine: Coronavirus
« Reply #1234 on: September 30, 2021, 03:57:17 PM »
He should demand another booster, now!!!  More has to be better...just to be sure, right?

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« Reply #1235 on: September 30, 2021, 04:34:38 PM »
This is good to hear. I was speaking with my wife - just last night, after listening to the British undertaker & his experience with "Vaccine Injury" (death from the mRNA sludge). I'm surprised that, putting aside the under-reported Vax deaths, I haven't heard of more injury to folks I know who've been vaxed.

And, while I wish no one dead, specifically -- I DO want to hear of more post vaccination deaths -- so that critical mass opposition grows to this genocidal operation.
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« Reply #1236 on: September 30, 2021, 05:42:03 PM »
So... it is my feeling that all the evil being perpetrated in the world by the leftists is because they have no soul, they are the toys/creation of satan.  As such in the eyes of God would it be murder if they came to untimely ends at the hands of believers?
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« Reply #1237 on: September 30, 2021, 07:19:39 PM »
So... it is my feeling that all the evil being perpetrated in the world by the leftists is because they have no soul, they are the toys/creation of satan.  As such in the eyes of God would it be murder if they came to untimely ends at the hands of believers?

I would submit that they were still created by God – but have become steeped in the things of the world (e.g. a lust for power) & beguiled by Satan.

And I think some “reframing” would be helpful for developing a different perspective on your question of “murder”.

If I were to break into your home & assault you & your wife – and you killed me in the process of defending your privacy, property & freedom, it wouldn’t be “murder” it’d be “self-defense”.

If I accosted you on the street with a machete, and you drew on me & shot  . . same thing.

Similarly; we have freedom & the sacred gifts of personal property, privacy and the right to pursue happiness granted to us by Almighty God and codified in our U.S. Constitution. ANYONE attempting to deprive us of those freedoms, liberties and sacred possessions is guilty of assault & battery. Depriving one of their ability to provide an income & support their family is assaulting them and their family. Killing them in the commission of such acts would NOT be “murder” – it would indeed be “self defense”.

We do not live under the “Rule of the Greater Good”; we live under the Rule of Law. Those repeatedly violating those laws should needs must pay the ultimate price . . . .

. . . . and our collective patience is wearing thin.
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Well said to all.

See this?

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/game-changer-merck-releasing-phenomenal-test-results-experimental-covid-pill

How about telling us what is in it and what the process to create it involved before pimping it as "a game changer"? 

These rush reveals trigger my early warning system...
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You are endangering me: A cnned response.  Please feel free to copy and pate it into the next Social Media Feed where this stupid accusation is thrown out...

I have a question for those who are apparently scared to go out in public and who blame others for not giving up their freedom and rights to make them feel "safe":


What level of personal danger and risk are you willing to accept before you will be happy?

Your chance of dying in a car accident is 11 in 100,000
[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]
Do you take car rides?

Your chance of being struck by lightening, is 0.2 in 100,000
[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

Do you ever walk outside in a thunderstorm?

This Virus has a 99.98% survival rate across all age groups (assuming you do not take any well known effective treatments that the powers that be would pretend are not available)

Your survival rate is far, far higher if you are young, and healthy
( [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

According to this article ( [link to www.haaretz.com (secure)] referenced in another thread

In Israel those under 60 die at a rate of 0.02 per 100000 for double vaxxed, and 1.3 pr 100,000 if over 60 and double vaxxed

The last number is comparable to the risk of the common flu for all people in all age groups from 2000 onwards.

Before COVID did you worry about going out because of the flu?

If not, one must ask -- at what personal risk of death do you feel it would be safe for you to venture outside or feel that the unvaxxed present no real risk to you?

Please give me a number and explain why you think that is reasonable.



A question for those too Scared to go out in public and who blame others for not giving up their freedom to make them feel "safe":
What  level of personal danger and risk are you willing to accept before you will be happy?

Your chance of dying in a car accident is 11 in 100,000
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db400.htm?fbclid=IwAR0X5KkwjScaxTSvP7Q_7kyjRFajAjv62jMqA1yMC8M16ecPtCqsrR9-sio
Do you take car rides?

Your chance of being struck by lightening, is  0.2 in 100,000
https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/lightning/victimdata.html?fbclid=IwAR0UV4T5PXZEuwZ9_CFRQYyt__9J1SU04QAVDzEkjzd9dY1zP8CsVILoB6I


This Virus has a   99.98% survival rate across all age groups (assuming you do not take any well known effective treatments that the powers that be would pretend are not available)  Your survival rate is far, far higher if you are young, and healthy

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html?fbclid=IwAR3HtwuH3JhVcDcXLwMlhIe9s9-15N1B6-SqNFJaXmSZ_uVjsqBhacV-dwU

According to this article

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/these-unvaccinated-10-fuel-israel-s-covid-crisis-1.10251639?fbclid=IwAR0D8AABII1P0eKC1TUxaIhB7H1OJJ6iX76Zf4TBdGiJ8gmzmKCedV_26Fo

In  Israel those under 60 die at  a rate of  0.02 per 100000 for double vaxxed, and 1.3 pr 100,000 if over 60 and double vaxxed . The  last number is comparable to the risk of the common flu for all people in all age groups from 2000 onwards. Before COVID did you worry about going out because of the flu?

If not,  one must ask -- at what personal risk of  death do you feel it would be safe for you to venture outside? Please give me a number and explain why you think that is reasonable.