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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #100 on: September 20, 2024, 08:17:44 AM »
H/T-AOS
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« Reply #101 on: September 20, 2024, 04:56:46 PM »
H/T-AOS

LMAO

I heard that the pager company had been selling for 15 years.
The company was Bulgarian and the CEO Norwegian. He was contacted then fled, maybe to US.
American university in Lebanon had their pagers replaced recently?

Most of the walkies went to EMTs?

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« Reply #102 on: September 20, 2024, 05:48:26 PM »

I also heard that booby trapping common items was done in WWII so it is against some treaties and/or international law.
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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #103 on: September 20, 2024, 08:13:29 PM »

And the winner of the pager war is ...... China!

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🇨🇳 Chinese factories are overwhelmed with orders from the Middle East!

Posts from Chinese social media, stating factories are running overnight shifts to accommodate huge orders of communication devices from the Middle East.

A requirement from clients, is that the whole manufacturing process must be done inside China.
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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #104 on: September 22, 2024, 04:47:48 PM »

I also heard that booby trapping common items was done in WWII so it is against some treaties and/or international law.

These weren't booby traps, but rather WDD's (weapons of distant destruction).  Gives new meaning to Bell South's old advertising slogan:  "Reach out and touch someone."  ::laughonfloor::

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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #105 on: September 22, 2024, 08:36:28 PM »
Like that old Joan Rivers retort:

"Oh grow blow up!"
2 Timothy 1:7
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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #106 on: September 23, 2024, 08:36:38 AM »

And the winner of the pager war is ...... China!

https://t.me/myLordBebo/44709
🇨🇳 Chinese factories are overwhelmed with orders from the Middle East!

Posts from Chinese social media, stating factories are running overnight shifts to accommodate huge orders of communication devices from the Middle East.

A requirement from clients, is that the whole manufacturing process must be done inside China.

Should be easy enough to track those shipments...

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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #107 on: September 23, 2024, 08:41:01 AM »
Like that old Joan Rivers retort:

"Oh grow blow up!"

They like strapping explosives to their mentally retarded and blow up women and children, folks on buses, people in markets...I like it when they blow up!
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« Reply #108 on: September 23, 2024, 10:03:59 AM »

And the winner of the pager war is ...... China!

https://t.me/myLordBebo/44709
🇨🇳 Chinese factories are overwhelmed with orders from the Middle East!

Posts from Chinese social media, stating factories are running overnight shifts to accommodate huge orders of communication devices from the Middle East.

A requirement from clients, is that the whole manufacturing process must be done inside China.

Ummm...and just where do you think the exploding ones were manufactured originally?  Where is any electronic device manufactured today?
I'm sure China appreciates the large order from the ME to replace the exploding ones,  I mean, how often do they get the opportunity to produce the buggy whip equivalent of communication devices on such a large scale?  Twice now,  is it?
There is no "pager war"  only a war against terrorists,  and if you can disrupt the lines of communication of your enemy in any war,  you've gone a long way to achieving a win.

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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #109 on: September 23, 2024, 01:51:26 PM »
Had this on. Detailed report on Hezbollah and Lebanon. He lived in the area for a long time. He said Hezbollah is a state within a state and functions as a govt.  The pagers mostly went to civil servant types. He said the recent missile attacks on Israel were from deep launchers and the Israeli bombing did not do much. The missiles were crude and not the good ones. The Hezbollah goal is to keep the Israelis in the north from returning to their homes. 2 million are under fire. 1 million spent the night in bomb shelters.

https://youtu.be/XpyggZag3qI?t=121
Alastair Crooke : Israel’s War Without Limits.

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lastair Warren Crooke CMG (sometimes mis-spelled as Alistair Crooke), born 30 June 1949,[1] is a former British diplomat, and is the founder and director of the Beirut-based Conflicts Forum, an organisation that advocates for engagement between political Islam and the West.[2] Previously he was a ranking figure in both British intelligence (MI6) and European Union diplomacy.[1][3]

Crooke later worked for nearly 30 years in the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6)[8] under diplomatic cover in Northern Ireland, South Africa, Colombia, Pakistan and the Middle East. His early work included helping provide weapons to jihadists fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan and assisting in the Northern Ireland peace process.[6][9]

In 1997, he became a security adviser to the EU special envoy to the Middle East, and operating out of the British Embassy in Tel Aviv was involved in British attempts to draw Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other Palestinian groups into the political process.[10] He was involved in negotiations to end the Israeli army's siege of Yasser Arafat's compound in Ramallah and the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem. He assisted the negotiation of several local truces between the Israelis and Palestinians during the early 2000s. Crooke had good contacts with the Israeli military and intelligence services.[10]

Crooke married in 1976; they had three sons, and later divorced. Since 2005, he has lived in Beirut with his partner; they had a son and a daughter and married in 2012.[1][6]
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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #110 on: September 23, 2024, 01:56:55 PM »
And the proof Syzygy is the spanking happening now that I said was clearly coming...

Update(1312ET): For the second time since Friday, Israel has launched a major strike on the southern Beirut neighborhood of Dahiyam, in what the IDF says was a targeted strike on senior Hezbollah leader Ali Karaki. In last Friday's strike several Hezbollah commanders were taken out, in an attack which also left many civilian casualties. Karaki's fate is unclear at this point. He's widely reported to be Hezbollah's head of its southern front operations.

This has been the heaviest day of fighting in nearly a year since Oct.7, with the IDF saying by Monday evening it has struck about 800 targets in Lebanon today alone. "The IDF is striking to remove threats to Israeli civilians and degrade Hezbollah's terrorist infrastructure and capabilities," a statement said. Israel has also just declared an emergency "special situation" for the entire country as this looks to be the start of all-out war against Hezbollah in Lebanon. The total Lebanese death toll is fast approaching 300.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1838084627828965531

https://twitter.com/i/status/1838219391688716724

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/thousands-lebanese-flee-war-zone-israel-death-toll-reaches-100-single-day

More here - https://nypost.com/2024/09/23/world-news/israeli-military-bombs-hezbollah-targets-in-lebanon/

Whaaaa Boo hoooo   ::smallestviolin::

And in an odd twist...news of an Anti-Netanyahu infiltrator into IDF Southern Command that delayed operations in Gaza and new plans drafted...possibly compromising efforts to rescue hostages and locate a high-level Hamas dirtbag...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/israeli-lawyer-infiltrates-idf-during-october-7th-attack/

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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #111 on: September 23, 2024, 03:47:05 PM »

Israel has very strict laws/orders not to film any of the results of attacks on Israel but a few citizens do anyway.
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« Reply #112 on: September 23, 2024, 09:46:16 PM »
Had this on. Detailed report on Hezbollah and Lebanon.
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Mostly BS.
I've followed the Hezbollah/Lebanon situation for quite some time,  back when Lebanon was a prosperous,  peaceful, Western leaning nation.  When Lebanon was about to elect a very popular Western leaning president,  your defendant.  ASSad, assisted in his assassination. A couple years later,  when his son,  also a very popular,  Western leaning presidential candidate who would most likely be elected--same thing thanks to ASSad AGAIN.   
ASSad kept funneling Hezbollah terrorists into the country until they were able to gain a foothold in the government and eventually the presidency--probably through rigged elections.
When carrying out a terrorist war against a neighboring country is your primary objective,  and good governance is an afterthought,  if thought of at all,  the results will not be good for Lebanon. 
Remember the huge explosion in Beirut:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Beirut_explosion
Blamed on bad management by the government (Hezbollah).
In my reading catching up on the Lebanese situation after this,  the once prosperous economy was already in shambles,  and this just made it worse.  The rank and file citizens were already in despair and this was just more discouraging  news to them.
In the upcoming election,  most were resigned to the fact it didn't matter who they voted for,  the results would be predetermined and nothing would change.
Meanwhile,  your defendant,  ASSad,  is safely ensconced in his hidey hole in Damascus,  watching the destruction of his minions in Lebanon.  In Bible prophesy,  it says Damascus,  the oldest city in the world,  will be reduced to rubble in one day.  I hope I'm still alive to see it. 

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« Reply #113 on: September 24, 2024, 10:11:38 AM »
Had this on. Detailed report on Hezbollah and Lebanon.
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Mostly BS.
I've followed the Hezbollah/Lebanon situation for quite some time,  back when Lebanon was a prosperous,  peaceful, Western leaning nation.  When Lebanon was about to elect a very popular Western leaning president,  your defendant.  ASSad, assisted in his assassination. A couple years later,  when his son,  also a very popular,  Western leaning presidential candidate who would most likely be elected--same thing thanks to ASSad AGAIN.   
ASSad kept funneling Hezbollah terrorists into the country until they were able to gain a foothold in the government and eventually the presidency--probably through rigged elections.
When carrying out a terrorist war against a neighboring country is your primary objective,  and good governance is an afterthought,  if thought of at all,  the results will not be good for Lebanon. 
Remember the huge explosion in Beirut:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Beirut_explosion
Blamed on bad management by the government (Hezbollah).
In my reading catching up on the Lebanese situation after this,  the once prosperous economy was already in shambles,  and this just made it worse.  The rank and file citizens were already in despair and this was just more discouraging  news to them.
In the upcoming election,  most were resigned to the fact it didn't matter who they voted for,  the results would be predetermined and nothing would change.
Meanwhile,  your defendant,  ASSad,  is safely ensconced in his hidey hole in Damascus,  watching the destruction of his minions in Lebanon.  In Bible prophesy,  it says Damascus,  the oldest city in the world,  will be reduced to rubble in one day.  I hope I'm still alive to see it.

I never had the  impression that Lebanon was well run or different from what you wrote. . I had an Indian (Sikh) boss who had lived in Lebanon. It used to be a nice place. Beirut was called the Paris of the Middle East as I recall. Then the Islamists ruined the place.
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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #114 on: September 24, 2024, 10:58:40 AM »
Had this on. Detailed report on Hezbollah and Lebanon.
...
Mostly BS.
I've followed the Hezbollah/Lebanon situation for quite some time,  back when Lebanon was a prosperous,  peaceful, Western leaning nation.  When Lebanon was about to elect a very popular Western leaning president,  your defendant.  ASSad, assisted in his assassination. A couple years later,  when his son,  also a very popular,  Western leaning presidential candidate who would most likely be elected--same thing thanks to ASSad AGAIN.   
ASSad kept funneling Hezbollah terrorists into the country until they were able to gain a foothold in the government and eventually the presidency--probably through rigged elections.
When carrying out a terrorist war against a neighboring country is your primary objective,  and good governance is an afterthought,  if thought of at all,  the results will not be good for Lebanon. 
Remember the huge explosion in Beirut:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Beirut_explosion
Blamed on bad management by the government (Hezbollah).
In my reading catching up on the Lebanese situation after this,  the once prosperous economy was already in shambles,  and this just made it worse.  The rank and file citizens were already in despair and this was just more discouraging  news to them.
In the upcoming election,  most were resigned to the fact it didn't matter who they voted for,  the results would be predetermined and nothing would change.
Meanwhile,  your defendant,  ASSad,  is safely ensconced in his hidey hole in Damascus,  watching the destruction of his minions in Lebanon.  In Bible prophesy,  it says Damascus,  the oldest city in the world,  will be reduced to rubble in one day.  I hope I'm still alive to see it.

Hope I am too.

The Assad's are loathsome scum...but they have benefactors in Moscow and Tehran who love dealing with loathsome scum...so, any move on their proxy will engender their wrath...not that I GAFF, jus' sayin'...

Meanwhile...

Looks like Israel took out Hezbollah's rocket-boy Ibrahim Qubaisi...hopefully he is enjoying his gang-raping at the hands of Hell's demons...and if the Mahdi Death Cult seeks to intervene, well then the balloon goes up for the US, Houthis and who knows how many others...and the Useless Nations calls for "de-escalation" which the sane know is code for appease the Islamo-terrorist filth...which is not going to happen...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-urges-all-americans-flee-lebanon-3rd-israeli-strike-rocks-beirut

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1838588289516736614

I said a spanking was coming for them...but they couldn't resist lobbing bombs at Israel...fracked around, now y'all finding out...
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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #115 on: September 24, 2024, 12:28:42 PM »
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I never had the  impression that Lebanon was well run or different from what you wrote. . I had an Indian (Sikh) boss who had lived in Lebanon. It used to be a nice place. Beirut was called the Paris of the Middle East as I recall. Then the Islamists ruined the place.
The 15 years long civil war in Lebanon ('75-'90) was between the Christians and a couple factions of Muslims ended with a power sharing agreement,  which worked very well for many years.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War
During that time,  Lebanon and its economy regained a semblance of normalcy.  Talking with a Filipina who worked there during that time,  she spoke of how beautiful and peaceful the country was and how much she enjoyed her stay there.  Said it was the first time she ever saw snow (in the mountains) LOL.  Hezbollah was still a presence there and never really went along with the peace settlement because Iran still wanted to use Lebanon as another front in their war against Israel. 
Well, over time,  they became the power,  they are now hotly engaged in that war,  and will suffer great loss because of it,  as will the citizens of Lebanon. 
"Sow to the wind,  reap the whirlwind." 

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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #116 on: September 24, 2024, 01:36:15 PM »
Oops, looks like the Mahdi Death Cult wants to trigger one of those trip-wires...

Most of the leaders of the Iranian-backed militias have left the city of Mayadeen, east of Deir Ezzor, over the past two days, for the Qusayr area in the Homs countryside and from there to Lebanon, according to a local reporter of the DeirEzzor24 Network .

Our reporter said that among those leaving were the so-called “Hajj Najaf”, the official in charge of the Iranian “Al-Shifa” hospital in the city of Mayadeen, and “Hajj Malik”, the military commander in the Revolutionary Guard militia, with some leaders remaining in the city to complete some administrative matters, with the possibility of joining them.

https://therightscoop.com/breaking-report-iranian-militias-are-headed-for-lebanon-to-help-hezbollah/
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« Reply #117 on: September 25, 2024, 11:31:24 AM »


I do not know as much as you do about this area. Years ago I read a book by a woman from Lebanon. She was either Christian or a converted Muslim to Christianity. She wrote about dodging gunfire and hiding in basements in Lebanon from Muslims. She was semi well known for a while.

I think that Hezbollah invaded south Lebanon, embedded there, and became part of the political structure of Lebanon. Israel tried to dislodge them a while back and got a bloody nose. Israeli military now says that they would fail in an attack on south Lebanon.

I do not like AQ due to 9/11 WTC attacks. I do not like ISIS as they take sex slaves and set people on fire . I do not like how they the US and others armed these groups and sicced them on the civilians and militaries of Syria. IMO the Syrian civil war was not organic and most fighters were imported crazies.  The Syrian war created lots of refugees.
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« Reply #118 on: September 25, 2024, 12:47:52 PM »


I do not know as much as you do about this area. Years ago I read a book by a woman from Lebanon. She was either Christian or a converted Muslim to Christianity. She wrote about dodging gunfire and hiding in basements in Lebanon from Muslims. She was semi well known for a while.

I think that Hezbollah invaded south Lebanon, embedded there, and became part of the political structure of Lebanon. Israel tried to dislodge them a while back and got a bloody nose. Israeli military now says that they would fail in an attack on south Lebanon.

I do not like AQ due to 9/11 WTC attacks. I do not like ISIS as they take sex slaves and set people on fire and like to annihilate archeology sites . I do not like how they the US and others armed these groups and sicced them on the civilians and militaries of Syria. IMO the Syrian civil war was not organic and most fighters were imported crazies.  The Syrian war created lots of refugees.

FIFY

Others and imports - Like Russians, Iranians, Turks & the universally oppressed by just about everyone Kurds.

There is an easy solution for Syria: 1) Give the Kurds their own homeland 2) everybody else and their proxies the eff out 3) a real political future for their people sans puppets of foreign powers and proxies.  Latter 2 also apply to Lebanon.

But it won't be allowed to happen for either...
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Re: Israel vs Iran and its Proxies
« Reply #119 on: September 25, 2024, 12:54:12 PM »
Hezbollah targets and naval base and Mossad HQ in Tel Aviv, to no avail, and site of launch gets hit by IDF...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hezbollah-fires-first-missile-tel-aviv-targets-mossad-headquarters

...Iranian supplied missile...think some sensitive sites of the Mahdi Death Cult need a slap!

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