Topic: China

[Libertas]

Oh, BS!  People writing that dreck failed on purpose to disclose standing CCP law that every Chinese citizen...is expected to do whatever the CCP demands of it...INCLUDING SPYING!

f**king Chi-Com's...they are insidious scum!

[patentlymn]

I knew a Chinese PhD inventor from MN who returned to China to do his research in solar PV  materials because it was much cheaper there.
Far fewer Chinese students are going to US universities now because their own schools are much better now.  This will hurt US inversities because they paid full freight for their tuition.

The Turing prize is like a Noble prize for computer science. It is a big deal. The only Chinese winner in US recently sold his house and moved back to China to do research. Part of the sanctions against China means that leading researchers cannot collaborate with China any more which hurts them.

I am not saying the US is doing bad things but that these people are looking out for themselves.

[patentlymn]

This guy covers how China is doing in many areas. 6 min video is a very good example Sanctions do not work when scientists can hop on a plane.

https://youtu.be/M9d-o0uPE9I
 Western chip sanctions guaranteed to fail as thousands of top Chinese scientists return home
Inside China Business

China is now a scientific superpower, and now leads the United States and the European Union in several key measures of scholarship and research output. 

Much of China's top research and scientific talent are also headed back to China, and bringing with them deep, specialized industry knowledge in dozens of fields.

Western export curbs on critical technologies and tools for semiconductor manufacturing have ironically chased much top Chinese talent away from Silicon Valley and Europe, back to China.  By closing off customers for their products, they concluded they are better off, instead, returning to China and doing business here, with Chinese partners and Chinese customers.

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[Libertas]

Let 'em go...

If keeping them feeds the ChiCom war machine, eff 'em...hit the bricks!

[Libertas]

sh*tbag commie rat pukes have no shame...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chinese-ship-suspected-raiding-world-war-ii-wrecks-detained

Detained?  I'd sink that fothermucker!

[patentlymn]

A 19 min clip. In short, the US govt is likely feeding us a load of crap on the Uighurs.

Kim Iversen has done some deep dives into the Uighurs.  Here she interviews some French guy who has lived in China as I recall. His kids went to a French school in China. Now he lives in Malaysia, A Muslim country,  with his kids. There are lots of Uighurs who live there and his daughter's best friend is a Uighur. So he talks to them about when they were in China.

Similar to what I  heard before. The Uighur region borders Afghanistan and there were lots of terrorists who worked with the Taliban and acted as terrorists inside China. China responded by heavy handed security measures including civics re-education vocational education, and economic development. The mandatory re-education for radicalized Muslims and the camps shut down in 2019.

Numerous international Muslim organizations have visited the region and concluded there is no problem. This is the most culturally and geographic region of China so it has 300 million visitors per year. He says their income is higher than in Vietnam or Thailand.

https://youtu.be/m0tvyYwOV4c
Inside The Uyghur Camps In China: An Insider’s Perspective

[patentlymn]

Like the title says
https://youtu.be/H3XYIcaohk0
 China's factories are closing down and moving, to other regions in China. Not to Vietnam or Mexico.
Inside China Business

China's vast interior provinces are benefiting from supply chain moves from coastal China, as global manufacturers move inland.  Vietnam and Mexico are seeing manufacturing and export booms as some final assembly plants are built there to avoid US tariffs.  However, the manufacturing and export sectors of China's inland provinces are far outpacing those of Vietnam, Mexico, and even India.

Chinese GDP growth figures at the provincial level show that the economies of less-developed areas will double in under 10 years, closing the gap with the giant coastal economies of the Pearl River Delta and the Shanghai megalopolis. 

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[patentlymn]

Are these people crazy?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/11/politics/nato-chinese-owned-infrastructure-europe/index.html
 NATO allies are discussing reclaiming some Chinese-owned infrastructure in Europe
Kayla Tausche Kylie Atwood
By Kayla Tausche and Kylie Atwood, CNN
4 minute read
Published 2:41 PM EDT, Thu July 11, 2024


   
 From rail lines connecting Eastern Europe to China, to ports located in the North Sea and the Baltic Sea, China has funded tens of billions of dollars in infrastructure investments under its Belt & Road Initiative, which European nations began signing onto in 2013.

A NATO official said that if a war erupted, the infrastructure “would almost certainly be nationalized, or nations would temporarily assume operating control, under emergency security measures. China can sue them in court after the fact.”

US officials see a precedent for such takeovers or sales in moves by European nations to force Russia to sell assets in the wake of the 2022 invasion of Ukraine. For more than a year, Finland repeatedly blocked the business of Helsinki Shipyard – a producer of ice-breaking ships once owned by a Russian entity – until Russia in late 2023 sold the company to an entity based in Canada.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qBQUB3bMRI
ECONOMIC WAR: NATO Threatens to Nationalize Assets Owned by China the EU
Lena Petrova

[Libertas]

Dont care, screw China.

[patentlymn]

The EU gets screwed not China.

[Libertas]

Don't care, screw 'em both...

[patentlymn]

Here is a series of around 16 tweets on how China selects its leaders. Near the end there is a short series on how another recent leader m made it where he is.

https://twitter.com/thinking_panda/status/1305784641262026752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1305784641262026752%7Ctwgr%5Ee976c31efbe5978106ba91f3cedacbae77c22088%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefaultf%3Dhttpsmoothiex12blogspotcomt_u%3Dhttp3A2F2Fsmoothiex12.blogspot.com2F20242F082Fcorrections.htmlt_d%3D0A0AReminiscence20of20the20Future...20202020200A0At_t%3D0A0AReminiscence20of20the20Future...20202020200A0As_o%3Ddefaultversion%3D4cca83b0da0691f931ef86061fb7db43

[Libertas]

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/bipartisan-house-legislation-aims-counter-chinas-investment-africa

So misleading...

These UniParty punks suddenly care about China, only because of environmental BS?

 

Eff them all.  Let China rape Africa and render the stupid African lands into toxic dumps...they deserve each other!

Dipsh*ts are not worth spending one cent on!!!

[patentlymn]

I have no idea what China is doing in Africa. No friend of the environment from what I hear but I hope the locals care about that.

The US is acting as a spoiler too often for my taste.  China builds something. US does not but complains about it.

US used to be biggest trade partner for Latin America. Now it is China.

[Libertas]

Africa is a whore and China is an abusive John...

[patentlymn]

Chinese even prefer light skinned Han to dark skinned Hana. When they knock up a local African there is no way they take them back to China to meet his parents. They are abandoned.

[Libertas]

Bloody commies...

Bad enough they pollute their own people...and sometimes get caught selling dangerous/toxic products to stupid Westerners...they keep polluting the sh*t out of space and make more dangerous for other nations legitimate use!

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/chinese-rocket-breaks-apart-space-unleashing-significantly-hazard-debris-cloud

And more damage to come...

Chi-Com's are nefarious!

Like to Long March them into The Hague!

At least here they appear to have mostly hurt themselves...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-explosion-rocks-container-ship-chinas-top-port

Bloody commies!

[patentlymn]

This guy is American portfolio manager. Talks fast. He has gone into how US sanctions backfired before in great detail.
US companies like NVidea (and others) outsource production to Taiwan. US govt sanctions harm US companies like them but not others so why be a US company if it harms you?

https://youtu.be/ZNzixbMiZMQ

 US sanctions against China are putting global firms to a decision: abandon China, or leave the US
Inside China Business
53.1K subscribers
 
Aug 11, 2024
Nvidia and other chipmakers are struggling to survive in China, the world's largest semiconductor market, while also observing Washington's increasingly strict trading curbs. 

Despite obvious sanctions failures against Russia and China, Western governments continue to punish their own companies who do business in and with the world's biggest industrial and consumer markets.  Companies who set up outside the United States and a small handful of Washington's closest allies are not subject to these restrictions.  We should therefore expect that more Western companies will break apart into units which serve different markets, and that new firms will establish themselves in countries whose laws allow them to do business anywhere.

[Libertas]

This guy is American portfolio manager. Talks fast. He has gone into how US sanctions backfired before in great detail.
US companies like NVidea (and others) outsource production to Taiwan. US govt sanctions harm US companies like them but not others so why be a US company if it harms you?

https://youtu.be/ZNzixbMiZMQ

 US sanctions against China are putting global firms to a decision: abandon China, or leave the US
Inside China Business
53.1K subscribers
 
Aug 11, 2024
Nvidia and other chipmakers are struggling to survive in China, the world's largest semiconductor market, while also observing Washington's increasingly strict trading curbs. 

Despite obvious sanctions failures against Russia and China, Western governments continue to punish their own companies who do business in and with the world's biggest industrial and consumer markets.  Companies who set up outside the United States and a small handful of Washington's closest allies are not subject to these restrictions.  We should therefore expect that more Western companies will break apart into units which serve different markets, and that new firms will establish themselves in countries whose laws allow them to do business anywhere.

Where the Hell is this coming from?  Nvidia like almost everybody uses Taiwan Semiconductor to make chips per their designs...that is not China, only a Commie thinks Taiwan belongs to China...

[patentlymn]

This guy is American portfolio manager. Talks fast. He has gone into how US sanctions backfired before in great detail.
US companies like NVidea (and others) outsource production to Taiwan. US govt sanctions harm US companies like them but not others so why be a US company if it harms you?

https://youtu.be/ZNzixbMiZMQ

 US sanctions against China are putting global firms to a decision: abandon China, or leave the US
Inside China Business
53.1K subscribers
 
Aug 11, 2024
Nvidia and other chipmakers are struggling to survive in China, the world's largest semiconductor market, while also observing Washington's increasingly strict trading curbs. 

Despite obvious sanctions failures against Russia and China, Western governments continue to punish their own companies who do business in and with the world's biggest industrial and consumer markets.  Companies who set up outside the United States and a small handful of Washington's closest allies are not subject to these restrictions.  We should therefore expect that more Western companies will break apart into units which serve different markets, and that new firms will establish themselves in countries whose laws allow them to do business anywhere.

Where the Hell is this coming from?  Nvidia like almost everybody uses Taiwan Semiconductor to make chips per their designs...that is not China, only a Commie thinks Taiwan belongs to China...

He did not say that Taiwan is part of China although the US govt official policy has said that for decades.

From memory, he said that a large percent of Nvidia sales goes to China. Maybe 30 percent?  Maybe more? US govt says Nvidia cannot sell certain top chips to China. China responded to this by making some very good chips themselves. Not the very top end but close enough for now and better than expected. This creates a huge vacuum that will be filled one way or the other. TSMC would prefer to sell to China IMO.

In some tech areas in response to US sanctions, the Chinese inventors in US companies and universities responded by moving to China.