Author Topic: Russia  (Read 21435 times)

0 Members and 40 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: Russia
« Reply #100 on: May 13, 2024, 08:48:06 AM »
Wow, big shake ups in military/security roles...

Russian state media is confirming a huge breaking development that President Putin has removed his longtime Defense Minister and personal friend Sergei Shoigu as defense chief, who has overseen the Ukraine war since its beginning in Feb. 2022. He will now serve as head of the nation's security council.

"Sergei Shoigu is likely to lose the post of Minister of Defense of Russia to acting First Deputy Prime Minister Andrei Belousov," English-language RT is reporting. "His candidacy was proposed by President Vladimir Putin, the Federation Council announced on Sunday."

Putin has also reportedly dismissed Secretary of the Security Council Nikolai Patrushev, according to Interfax.

This appears in order to shuffle Shoigu into that position. Putin has now appointed Shoigu as new Secretary of the Russian Security Council. Likely Patrushev is also being moved to another position too.

The proposed candidate for new defense chief, Belousov, has a background in Russia's central bank and economics and finance...


Below is some background on Belousov and his last two decades of government experience, though specific military decision-making or army experience on a strategic level appears to be absent, interestingly:

2000?2006: General Director, Centre for Macroeconomic Analysis and Short-Term Forecasting.

2000?2006: External adviser to the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation.

2006?2008: Deputy Minister of Economic Development and Trade, Deputy Minister of Economic Development.

2008?2012: Director, Government Department of Economy and Finance.

2012?2013: Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation.

2013?2020: Presidential Aide.

21 January 2020: First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, appointed by executive order of the President of Russia.

Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov addressed this lack of military experience as follows in a late Sunday press briefing:

Explaining Shoigu's replacement with a non-military official, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said it was "natural" for Putin to decide that a civilian official to head the Defense Ministry.

"The Defense Ministry must be absolutely open to innovation, to introduce advanced ideas and to create conditions for economic competitiveness — that’s why the president chose the candidacy of Andrei Removich Belousov," Peskov told reporters.

According to more details of Putin's big reshuffling via RT:

Senators are scheduled to engage in consultations regarding the nominees put forth by the president during committee sessions on May 13 and during a Federation Council meeting on May 14, as announced by the upper house of the Russian parliament.

No further alterations have been made to the roster of candidates Putin has submitted for cabinet positions. His nominations include Vladimir Kolokoltsev for the position of interior minister, Alexander Kurenkov for minister of emergency situations, Sergey Lavrov for foreign minister, and Konstantin Chuichenko for justice minister.

Denis Manturov, who served as deputy prime minister and head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade during Putin’s last term in office, has been nominated for the position of first deputy prime minister.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-unveils-dramatic-reshuffling-closest-advisors-shoigu-out-defense-minister

Looks like to me the hothead Patrushev is being solidly demoted and Shoigu gets a face-saving post.  And a novice at Defense to me indicates he'll be doing whatever Putin wants him to do.
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline patentlymn

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5892
Re: Russia
« Reply #101 on: May 13, 2024, 01:14:44 PM »

India set to oversee Chabahar Port operations under new decade-long Iran agreement: media

👉 Chabahar Port holds strategic importance for India:

?? It serves as a crucial link to connect with Afghanistan, Central Asia, and the broader Eurasian region;

?? Plans are underway to integrate Chabahar Port with the International North South Transport Corridor (INSTC), facilitating trade between India, Russia, and other countries via Iran;

?? This will enable India to bypass Pakistan and establish direct access to Afghanistan and, ultimately, Central Asia.

?? The main advantage of this corridor is the reduction of delivery times by two to three times;

?? The development of the port is viewed as a significant geopolitical step towards enhancing cooperation with Iran.
When the law becomes a ruse, lawlessness becomes legitimate. -unknown

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: Russia
« Reply #102 on: May 14, 2024, 07:48:49 AM »
Nobody will be trading with the Mahdi Death Cult...not when they're a smoldering heap of ash and ruin...
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: Russia
« Reply #103 on: May 14, 2024, 08:03:10 AM »
Back on the high-level shake up...

I don't even think the idiots spewing this gibberish about desperation even believe their own BS...and on the cost side of things they are only half right and the casualties side outright silly...

I see this all as an efficiency move...Shoigu stays close and saves face...new guy at Defense seems to be a good administrator who seems to get along with other officials, anything strategic he is going to rely on his general staff and all will do as Putin decides anyway...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-says-putins-dramatic-cabinet-reshuffle-smacks-desperation

Dolts in this corrupt compromised FJB regime and the halls of EuroStan are blowing smoke as usual.

We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline patentlymn

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5892
Re: Russia
« Reply #104 on: May 14, 2024, 02:13:58 PM »
Back on the high-level shake up...

I don't even think the idiots spewing this gibberish about desperation even believe their own BS...and on the cost side of things they are only half right and the casualties side outright silly...

I see this all as an efficiency move...Shoigu stays close and saves face...new guy at Defense seems to be a good administrator who seems to get along with other officials, anything strategic he is going to rely on his general staff and all will do as Putin decides anyway...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-says-putins-dramatic-cabinet-reshuffle-smacks-desperation

Dolts in this corrupt compromised FJB regime and the halls of EuroStan are blowing smoke as usual.

I think Shoigu was never a warrior but a MIC admin guy who stayed close to factories. His new job is pretty good with added responsibilities.. The new guy is even better at admin.
When the law becomes a ruse, lawlessness becomes legitimate. -unknown

Offline patentlymn

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5892
Re: Russia
« Reply #105 on: May 15, 2024, 11:03:15 AM »

This IS how Russian cursive looks.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1790291190341902837
ChatGTP can’t read Russian cursive.

Here you go, want to be AI safe write in Russia !
When the law becomes a ruse, lawlessness becomes legitimate. -unknown

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: Russia
« Reply #106 on: May 20, 2024, 09:52:10 AM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/analyzing-strategic-importance-russias-reportedly-planned-afghan-oil-hub

NO war for oil!

Oh wait, that's retards in the West...which ironically citizens of which never got the benefit of one drop...

We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline patentlymn

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5892
Re: Russia
« Reply #107 on: May 28, 2024, 06:10:53 PM »
I saw some video on a  conference on how to take Russia apart. Maybe many years ago and from a US think tank or the DOD.
I did not save a link. I was surprised that such things would be out in the open. There is a reason Russia does not trust the US or NATO.

Now this came up. A map. Map at 1:00:14
From state dept webside?
https://youtu.be/FJVYEl87W5M?t=3535
NATO ‘Poking the Bear’ Risks War w/Russia - Col. Jacques Baud

When the law becomes a ruse, lawlessness becomes legitimate. -unknown

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: Russia
« Reply #108 on: May 29, 2024, 08:12:20 AM »
Well, pretty sure they and China et al have a plan to take others apart too...

And they are also not immune from incendiary rhetoric...

And no I don't care who started it first because that is a no-win game for anybody...

ETA - Other Russia news, some related to aforementioned rhetoric -

Is Russia Preparing To Strategically Partner With The Taliban?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-preparing-strategically-partner-taliban

Are they holding hands with the Mahdi Death Cultists in Iran?

Yes.

What's one more Satanic outfit?

Be interesting to see if they ever interact with the Rus directly...seeing as they hate each other.

Have fun!   ::effu::   ::hysterical::

The rhetoric - They... "should be aware of what they are playing with" as they had small land areas and dense populations."
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-threatens-wests-dense-populations-small-land-masses-response-nato-escalation

Nuke-friendly nations, good to know.

 ::)
« Last Edit: May 29, 2024, 08:41:28 AM by Libertas »
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline patentlymn

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5892
Re: Russia
« Reply #109 on: May 29, 2024, 11:37:28 AM »

I do not follow the Taliban, ISIS, or AQ.
I became aware in Syria that the US was directly or indirectly arming and funding ISIS and AQ.
There is the famous John Kerry quote on tape noting with approval that iSIS was advancing on Damascus.
Another quote maybe Clinton, said that AQ was on our side now.
In Syria, some US Gen flew in to meet with some jihadi group. he told them their name sounded to radical so he renamed them the Free Syrian Army.

I heard that the the Taliban, in their time out of power, attended western universities and became cosmopolitan..

I also believe that ISIS has become an arm of the US govt as they now never attack US or US allies..

In the book Soldiers of God, Robert d Kaplan embedded with the Taliban against the Soviets. Brave man.

I think China just wants to make money and Russia wants to not get invaded or  messed with. I recall China is the leading trading power of most of South America.

I do not think that Russia or china want to 'decolonize'  the US.

When the law becomes a ruse, lawlessness becomes legitimate. -unknown

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: Russia
« Reply #110 on: May 29, 2024, 01:02:02 PM »

I do not follow the Taliban, ISIS, or AQ.
I became aware in Syria that the US was directly or indirectly arming and funding ISIS and AQ.
There is the famous John Kerry quote on tape noting with approval that iSIS was advancing on Damascus.
Another quote maybe Clinton, said that AQ was on our side now.
In Syria, some US Gen flew in to meet with some jihadi group. he told them their name sounded to radical so he renamed them the Free Syrian Army.

I heard that the the Taliban, in their time out of power, attended western universities and became cosmopolitan..

I also believe that ISIS has become an arm of the US govt as they now never attack US or US allies..

In the book Soldiers of God, Robert d Kaplan embedded with the Taliban against the Soviets. Brave man.

I think China just wants to make money and Russia wants to not get invaded or  messed with. I recall China is the leading trading power of most of South America.

I do not think that Russia or china want to 'decolonize'  the US.

A cosmopolitan Muslim is still a Muslim, they still believe in Sharia and are doing pretty much everything they used to so "cosmopolitan" really means nothing.

And according to Wiki (which is habitually Leftist) over the years they've attacked everybody, us, allies, everybody...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_linked_to_the_Islamic_State

The latter were empowered by the idiotic reign of error and terror of The Kenyan and his Arab Spring BS et al...and they turned on everybody and became autonomous terrorists...for control of them I have seen no proof, and their terror has impacted everybody...
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline patentlymn

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5892
Re: Russia
« Reply #111 on: May 29, 2024, 01:30:10 PM »


I did not read the ISIS lists. Sometimes random locals will claim they are members of iSIS or AQ to gain street cred.
I still think that ISIS is often used by the US. I think the Taliban went after ISIS in Afghanistan.

My point was that Taliban back then had likely never traveled far from their villages and were ignorant about the outside world. . Now they are better educated.
When the law becomes a ruse, lawlessness becomes legitimate. -unknown

Offline patentlymn

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5892
Re: Russia
« Reply #112 on: May 30, 2024, 12:00:48 AM »

Here is a link on decolonizing Russia. Why do it out in the open? You think Russians can't read? The US says were are no threat to Russia.
https://www.csce.gov/briefings/decolonizing-russia-a-moral-and-strategic-imperative/

https://youtu.be/FJVYEl87W5M?t=3697
When the law becomes a ruse, lawlessness becomes legitimate. -unknown

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: Russia
« Reply #113 on: May 30, 2024, 08:26:36 AM »


I did not read the ISIS lists. Sometimes random locals will claim they are members of iSIS or AQ to gain street cred.
I still think that ISIS is often used by the US. I think the Taliban went after ISIS in Afghanistan.

My point was that Taliban back then had likely never traveled far from their villages and were ignorant about the outside world. . Now they are better educated.

Evidence?
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: Russia
« Reply #114 on: May 30, 2024, 08:38:43 AM »

Here is a link on decolonizing Russia. Why do it out in the open? You think Russians can't read? The US corrupt FJB Regime & UniParty trash says were are no threat to Russia.
https://www.csce.gov/briefings/decolonizing-russia-a-moral-and-strategic-imperative/

https://youtu.be/FJVYEl87W5M?t=3697

FIFY

And...remember way back when, on several threads...I said "they (demonazis & cucks aka UniParty) will go to any lengths" to justify their narratives and retain their power and positions "even if it means plunging the world into WWIII"?  The same MFer's who want to make a martyr of Trump because they are unwilling to see their own destruction?  This is on THEM, not us or the US in the plural...this is rogue star chamber sh*t.  And I refuse to be lumped in with them, everybody should.  Does that mean I should embrace Putie?  No.  It means I am independent of both their bullsh*t.  The focus should be in overthrowing the scum in our midst without making it easy for our tormentors to point and scream traitor & Putin stooge!  Why make it easy for them?  I despise them for who they are and what they do, period.

The Founders warned against foreign entanglements...and those entanglements can be self-inflicted if one becomes too much of a fanboy/fangirl of foreign characters.
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline patentlymn

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5892
Re: Russia
« Reply #115 on: May 30, 2024, 12:01:22 PM »


I did not read the ISIS lists. Sometimes random locals will claim they are members of iSIS or AQ to gain street cred.
I still think that ISIS is often used by the US. I think the Taliban went after ISIS in Afghanistan.

My point was that Taliban back then had likely never traveled far from their villages and were ignorant about the outside world. . Now they are better educated.

Evidence?

I don't save links to everything i read. US govt tried to overthrow the Syrian govt using imported Jihadis, imported through Turkey along with arms also imported through turkey. I recall that AQ was directly armed and ISIS indirectly armed.by US. John Kerry noted on audio tape, with approval, that iSIS was closing in on Damascus.

Locals in Syria n reported that ISIS were mostly foreigners who hated the locals. US support for the Jihadis went from conspiracy theory, to only arming 'moderate rebels' to CIA complaints that 1 dollar of 13 of their budget went to Syria.

Gen Wesley Clark famously reported that a friend at pentagon told him that the US planned 7 regime changes in 5 years. How to think they were to do that? Not with US troops. US hires proxy crazies like ISIS.
When the law becomes a ruse, lawlessness becomes legitimate. -unknown

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: Russia
« Reply #116 on: May 30, 2024, 12:43:18 PM »


I did not read the ISIS lists. Sometimes random locals will claim they are members of iSIS or AQ to gain street cred.
I still think that ISIS is often used by the US. I think the Taliban went after ISIS in Afghanistan.

My point was that Taliban back then had likely never traveled far from their villages and were ignorant about the outside world. . Now they are better educated.

Evidence?

I don't save links to everything i read. US govt tried to overthrow the Syrian govt using imported Jihadis, imported through Turkey along with arms also imported through turkey. I recall that AQ was directly armed and ISIS indirectly armed.by US. John Kerry noted on audio tape, with approval, that iSIS was closing in on Damascus.

Locals in Syria n reported that ISIS were mostly foreigners who hated the locals. US support for the Jihadis went from conspiracy theory, to only arming 'moderate rebels' to CIA complaints that 1 dollar of 13 of their budget went to Syria.

Gen Wesley Clark famously reported that a friend at pentagon told him that the US planned 7 regime changes in 5 years. How to think they were to do that? Not with US troops. US hires proxy crazies like ISIS.

Well links help, gives me something to analyze and research.  As for Kerry, he is a Leftist and a boob, it's 50-50 if he talked out his ass or let something slip...frankly his track record largely tilts to the former.  And Clark, also a Leftist with a huge ego is about as reliable...and whose regimes was he talking about?  Frankly, if in third world hell holes I could care less, though I would not even bother...let others have the headaches I say.

As for Syria it was Christian since the time of St. Paul until a series of Islamic invaders conquered it starting with Muhammad...and interesting note, by Saladin, who was Kurdish.  And in modern times Hafez al-Assad overthrew the Baathist government he was part of and later became President and dictator of nationalist socialist (that would be akin to Nazism) philosophy...what he called a hybrid of Leninism and Gaullist constitutionalism (but chose the nationalist socialist description)...which is ironic since Bashar praised Putin's invasion of Ukraine to "de-nazify" the country...and both he and his father never stopped embracing Russia and buying their arms.  Kinda hard for me to care what the hell happens to that country.
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline patentlymn

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5892
Re: Russia
« Reply #117 on: May 30, 2024, 02:08:51 PM »

A Kerry link while he was US SOS. As SOS he knew what the US was up to.  ISIL had US weapons for sure.

https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/01/07/us-watched-daesh-gaining-power-kerry-admits-in-leaked-audio

Here is the Wesley Clark link
https://youtu.be/jWxKn-1S8ts
General Wesley Clark - "We're Going to Take Out 7 Countries in 5 Years"
When the law becomes a ruse, lawlessness becomes legitimate. -unknown

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: Russia
« Reply #118 on: May 31, 2024, 08:02:13 AM »

A Kerry link while he was US SOS. As SOS he knew what the US was up to.  ISIL had US weapons for sure.

https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/01/07/us-watched-daesh-gaining-power-kerry-admits-in-leaked-audio

Here is the Wesley Clark link
https://youtu.be/jWxKn-1S8ts
General Wesley Clark - "We're Going to Take Out 7 Countries in 5 Years"

Well, nothing Kerry said there said "support Daesh" directly or indirectly...did he hope they would topple the national socialist dictatorship of Assad, sure, lots of people probably did and I wouldn't have given a frack either...but Hitlery and her gross negligence in the Benghazi Affair and her boss were looking to use nefarious folks to funnel weapons to Syria...but who ends up getting them in the end is a crapshoot when you deal with scumbags...just look at the "aid" to Gaza!  And obviously any ploy in Syria using proxies failed miserably...otherwise we would never have had to enter it via Northern Iraq.  Should have let the silly Russians deal with the whole mess.

As for Clark that clip just reinforces my opinion he is a gigantic egomaniac strutting around like he is the most beautiful and wise peacock in the universe...

Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran.

Uhh huh.  OK, Iran hated us once we went into Iraq?  BS, they hated us from the start of their Mahdi Death Cult reign of terror.  Talking with Iran?  Like The Kenyan's appeasement, that's fracking insane.  He's a Code Pink Leftist...who now is out of touch with that crowd because these are the idiots under The Kenyan & FJB that are hardcore interventionists because of the moronic bleating of "democracy" which is code word for "retain our political power".

Clark is such an old fool...  He must be in Hell not being able to bloviate for mush heads any more...



We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline patentlymn

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5892
Re: Russia
« Reply #119 on: May 31, 2024, 10:56:10 AM »

A Kerry link while he was US SOS. As SOS he knew what the US was up to.  ISIL had US weapons for sure.

https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/01/07/us-watched-daesh-gaining-power-kerry-admits-in-leaked-audio

Here is the Wesley Clark link
https://youtu.be/jWxKn-1S8ts
General Wesley Clark - "We're Going to Take Out 7 Countries in 5 Years"

Well, nothing Kerry said there said "support Daesh" directly or indirectly...did he hope they would topple the national socialist dictatorship of Assad, sure, lots of people probably did and I wouldn't have given a frack either...but Hitlery and her gross negligence in the Benghazi Affair and her boss were looking to use nefarious folks to funnel weapons to Syria...but who ends up getting them in the end is a crapshoot when you deal with scumbags...just look at the "aid" to Gaza!  And obviously any ploy in Syria using proxies failed miserably...otherwise we would never have had to enter it via Northern Iraq.  Should have let the silly Russians deal with the whole mess.

As for Clark that clip just reinforces my opinion he is a gigantic egomaniac strutting around like he is the most beautiful and wise peacock in the universe...

Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran.

Uhh huh.  OK, Iran hated us once we went into Iraq?  BS, they hated us from the start of their Mahdi Death Cult reign of terror.  Talking with Iran?  Like The Kenyan's appeasement, that's fracking insane.  He's a Code Pink Leftist...who now is out of touch with that crowd because these are the idiots under The Kenyan & FJB that are hardcore interventionists because of the moronic bleating of "democracy" which is code word for "retain our political power".

Clark is such an old fool...  He must be in Hell not being able to bloviate for mush heads any more...

Gen Clark just said what he heard from an old friend at the Pentagon. Was he being truthful or not? That was shortly after 9/11. Goals changed in the time since then.

Someone from CIA said that 1 dollar of 13 of CIA's budget went to Syria. Someone was paying for all the Jihadis in Syria. Who?
When the law becomes a ruse, lawlessness becomes legitimate. -unknown