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« on: December 01, 2024, 01:59:01 PM »


So the 'rebels' are attacking in Syria again. They are almost all foreign mercenaries as I recall. Paid for by the US and others. Currently by US and Israel and maybe Turkey. They rebrand themselves on occasion. They attack the Syrian army and civilians. I do not like AQ because of 9/11. I do not like ISIS because they burn people alive, kill civilians, and take sex slaves and war brides.

The US likes these guys in their 'brilliant' 3D chess game to support Israel.


Sen Black reminds us of the 'moderate' rebels.  Note how the US govt calls them "rebels" rather terrorists or Jihadis. So 9/11 was done by rebels.

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Re: Syria
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2024, 02:19:31 PM »
And your point is?

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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2024, 04:19:54 PM »
And your point is?

US arms crazies to harm civilians  world wide but the MSM does not report on it much. Most Syrians do not want to  be ruled by ISIS especially as most are foreigners. Most do not want the chaos that results either.. I don't see how it helps me or US citizens.

I watched part of this but fell asleep. It was said to be good by others. I might put it on again.  Former uk ambassador alastair crooke was former MI6 who then worked as a diplomat and negotiator in middle east. He is fluent in English and Arabic and I think he reads Hebrew so he is a good source. I think he lives in Beirut.

https://youtu.be/YD9ZD0DLUHQ
Desperate Escalations in Middle East & Ukraine - Alastair Crooke, Alexander Mercouris & Glenn Diesen


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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2024, 04:38:03 PM »


There was some reporting years back. 201
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"Al-Qaeda is on our side in Syria."

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🇸🇾🇺🇸??🚨 Brett Mcgurk described Idlib as “Al Qaeda’s largest safe haven since 9/11."

It’s funny that people claim it’s not anymore like that, but nobody changed anything in Idlib. Nobody won a war and kicked them out.

1) ISIS and Al Qaeda were in Idlib
2) No change happens for years
3) They are freedom fighters that attack Assad


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HTS rebels execute Syrian army soldiers!

They wear ISIS patches, they behave like ISIS … they are ISIS

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🔞🇸🇾🚨?? “Moderate” rebels beheaded a Syrian soldier because he is an “infidel”

Crazy that these guys are hailed as freedom fighters by western politicians!

That is Isis, as simple as that!


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Re: Syria
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2024, 04:42:30 PM »
Know what---I don't GAS

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Re: Syria
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2024, 09:28:50 AM »
It is hard to GAFF, isn't it?

I mean for the sake of argument say all that is true, so what?  Supposed to love the hereditary lunatic Assad?  f**k that noise!  I would be most pleased if most of these assholes all killed each other.  As I've said a billion times, only people in this area get a raw deal from just about all concerned is the Kurds.  They like Americans, and America...not the current version, the better version that we hope we can get back to...

The rest of them, all can FOAD and the quicker the better.

Wanna talk terrorist lovers?  How about Turkey?!

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkish-intelligence-directing-extremist-offensive-northwest-syria-afp

Turkey is at the center of most all of this.

And Iran supports Assad for the same simple reason flies like sh*t.

And these AQ crazies are also attacking, yup, the Kurds.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/death-toll-islamist-assault-aleppo-nears-500-iran-says-firmly-supports-assad

I tell ya, I would arm the crap out of the Kurds, help them secure a homeland and let the rest all kill each other all they want.
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2024, 10:44:27 AM »

I heard China is pissed at Turkey. BRICS is not likely now.
Israel attacked Syria to reduce arms shipments through Syria to Hezbollah.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2024, 11:02:46 AM »

Larry Johnson summarizes motivation for Syrian war. Pipeline through Syria to Med vs to Turkey.
Also Syria is too friendly to Iran so need regime change.
https://youtu.be/LKRxgOqEQyw?t=933
 Larry Johnson : Who’s Fighting in Syria?
I linked to the spot.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2024, 11:06:00 AM »


https://youtu.be/KEvZlTYpsz4
Alastair Crooke : Neocons Deluding Themselves.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2024, 11:13:22 AM »

Larry Johnson summarizes motivation for Syrian war. Pipeline through Syria to Med vs to Turkey.
Also Syria is too friendly to Iran so need regime change.
https://youtu.be/LKRxgOqEQyw?t=933
 Larry Johnson : Who’s Fighting in Syria?
I linked to the spot.
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above 22 min they include an old clip. Gen Austin says that half a billion USD went to train 4-5 guys fighting Assad.
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Re: Syria
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2024, 09:27:28 AM »
Sure looks like Erdogan is effing over Putin a lot harder than anybody else...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/erdogan-backstabs-his-way-center-middle-east-conflict

...and funny how Putin's hands are full until he can shed himself of the Ukraine issue.

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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2024, 03:20:49 PM »

Amb Chas Freeman on the possibility of negotiations in Syria. Says the 'rebels' are often not Syrians or  Arabs or Kurds and many are Uighurs whom the Syrians do not trust. I heard long ago that the civilians held by the fighters said they were foreigners and religious fanatics..

Previously he said Assad is popular because he can balance the many ethnic and religious groups.


https://youtu.be/HYHwzxli53Y?list=TLPQMDQxMjIwMjRw3WbuWyNc_Q&t=2919
Amb. Chas Freeman: From Ukraine to Syria, Are we heading Towards Huge Escalations?
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2024, 03:19:41 PM »


Thus guy is from Alleppo and lives in Germany now.
He goes into lots of details as to who is funding whom. He also gives the history.. Too much for me to remember.
https://youtu.be/sfDXysvP3Rc

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Re: Syria
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2024, 08:44:25 AM »
The despotic Baathist dominated Assad regime is dead...may it rot in Hell...

Having said that there really is noting different for the people, as all they did was replace one despot for another in Hayat Tahrir al-Sham's Jolani/Golani...whateverthehell his name is...

The quip about Syria now under the rule of Al Qaeda in Suits is pretty accurate...

And interesting too how quickly this happened, how quickly Putin gave Assad asylum and how seemingly tenuous the peace is between the AQ in Suits and the Russians is...so far no incidents at Khmeimim Air Base or their stronghold in the port of Tartus...but they did move their air defense systems from the former to the latter, indicating they may consolidate in Tartus, for now...as long as the new tyrants let them...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kremlin-reveals-status-russian-military-bases-syria

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/damascus-now-ruled-al-qaeda-suits-assads-whereabouts-unknown-curfew-imposed

And I think Sundance has the right read on this...Syria will be governed much like the Taliban runs Afghanistan...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/12/08/joe-biden-addresses-the-situation-in-syria-as-al-qaeda-and-various-factions-of-the-brotherhood-now-take-charge/

...and as for FJB taking a victory lap for the fall of Assad...he's merely doing that in obedience to the DeepState who helped fund these lunatics...because it is only the DeepState lunatics and that stunted worm Erdogan who can be happy about this, for now...

There is a lot to be seen how this unfolds, who HTS allies with (where do they stand with Iran, the Taliban?  What about the Kurds?  The power vacuum in Lebanon?  Attitude/relations with others especially Israel?  The Saudis and others bankrolling HTS?  When Sundance says this is a hot mess it is not an overstatement, if anything it may be an understatement.

I won't miss Assad, but the new masters are no better and the region remains a constant concern.

Let's see where things stand a year from now...

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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2024, 03:51:36 PM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/after-rebels-topple-assad-regime-syria-israeli-forces/

I'd say grabbing a buffer while you can is a good thing...

Besides, if good for Russia gotta be good for anybody.

As for this...

https://therightscoop.com/video-islamic-rebels-in-damascus-vow-to-take-jerusalem-next/

...yeah, such an insane threat is a sure way to see Damascus reduced to smoldering rubble.  Not that that would bother me.  Go ahead, FAAFO dummy!
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Re: Syria
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2024, 12:10:15 PM »
Buffer achieved.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/idf-tanks-reach-just-25km-south-damascus-netanyahu-declares-golan-ours-forever

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Now, the new terrorist leaders of Syria can choose to behave and not piss off their neighbors or choose poorly and find out...
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2024, 09:28:18 PM »
I have been sick a a few days. Watched lots of videos.
Syrian govr became a mess
Svrian govt be came  weak and corrupt and  folded in front of an attacker
Govt was corrupt.
Assad lost will with wife wife in cancerous  treatment.
No one expected Syrian govt collapse.
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2024, 10:02:36 AM »
Ya that last one always makes me laugh like a tickled baby...

Russians, Americans, Euros, Chinese....everybody didn't see it coming...

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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2024, 11:06:08 AM »
If they are also surprised by this...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/extremist-groups-carry-out-revenge-sectarian-killings-hts-controlled-syria

...they are truly stupid.

In many parts of the world yesterdays oppressed become tomorrows oppressors...and in the Muslim nations it is practically an official sport...
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Re: Syria
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2024, 01:28:06 PM »
https://www.algemeiner.com/2024/12/11/arrow-bashan-israel-destroys-most-syrias-strategic-weapons/

Nice.  Prevent the new lunatics from using Assad's stockpiles.  And they could not have done this extensive operation without all the parties knowing about it and standing aside...including Russia.

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Now the bad...that could not have happened without the corrupt FJB regime standing down and letting it...

Turkey is bombing or supporting the bombing of Kurdish positions, including those of internally displaced people and civilians. This is driven by Turkey’s concern over Kurdish separatism.

Ankara targets Kurdish groups in Syria, viewing many of these militias as extensions of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), a Kurdish separatist group that has been waging an insurgency within Turkey for decades.

The PKK is designated a terrorist organization by Turkey, the U.S., and the European Union due to its violent methods aimed at creating an independent Kurdish state.

In Syria, the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and the People’s Defense Units (YPG), two major Kurdish militias, are either affiliated with the PKK or share ideological ties to it.

While the SDF has been a key partner for the U.S. in the fight against ISIS, Turkey views their presence near its southern border as a direct security threat. Ankara fears that any Kurdish autonomous region in Syria could fuel separatism within Turkey’s own Kurdish population.

The U.S. faces a dilemma with Turkey, a NATO member and critical partner in the region for military operations, particularly in the fight against ISIS and other militant groups.

Turkey has provided crucial bases, such as Incirlik Air Base, for U.S. operations in the Middle East.

This makes it essential for the U.S. to balance its relationship with Turkey to avoid diplomatic tensions within the alliance.

On the other hand, the U.S. has supported Kurdish militias, especially the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), due to their effective role in fighting ISIS.

The SDF, with a large Kurdish contingent, played a vital part in the defeat of ISIS in Syria, notably in capturing key territories like Raqqa, the former ISIS capital.

U.S. support for the Kurds has included weapons, training, and air support, fostering strong tactical cooperation on the ground. As the U.S. continues its fight against ISIS, its alliance with the SDF and the Kurds remains crucial.

Meanwhile, the situation in Syria is shifting. It’s unclear what kind of governance Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and its allies will impose now that they are on the brink of seizing control of the country.

The war against ISIS could intensify if the Syrian National Army and Free Syrian Army hold or expand the territory they’ve captured. An example of what might follow is Turkey-backed Syrian National Army forces taking control of the city of Manbij.

Reports from the ground indicate that Turkish-backed troops in Manbij have shown no restraint, killing Kurds and Christians, including civilians and displaced people.

From a humanitarian standpoint, irrespective of the geopolitical context, what Turkey is doing could be considered a war crime, effectively enabling a terrorist organization.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/turkey-bombs-u-s-allied-kurds-syria-while/

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